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  1. 10 hours ago, dandydunn said:

    There’s a statement up in the Pittodrie corridor that says

    ”The first written evidence of a game where the ball is passed from player to player to score goals appears in a book from Aberdeen dated 1633”

    No idea how true that is though. 

    The book must have an author and a title. A copy may still exist, in the National Archives. Bear in mind that a game called "football" is older than 1633 so what you are talking here is the technique of passing the ball - of which, I think, the Scots were the pioneers . In England, for example., the technique was "backing up." In other words, a player ran with the ball until he lost it at which point the player "backing up" took over.

  2. King James I (the real King James I, that is, not King James VI & I who is constantly called James I by the British media) banned football in 1424. Not enough people were practising archery or swordsmanship - how was the king going to fight a war with England? Football was banned by royal decree and then by an Act of the Scottish Parliament; this has never been repealed.

  3. Players we lost because of booze, bad luck and bad attitudes. And... are we the best in the world at this?

    1. Bob Wilson. He was Arsenal's No. 1 for ten years but was not good enough for the 1974 World Cup squad because of those goalkeeping greats Thomson Allan, Jim Stewart and David Harvey (who was about to be dropped by Leeds).

    2. Darren Anderton. Scouted by Andy Roxburgh but deemed not good enough, he was at least compensated by 30 caps for England and was part of the England team that beat Scotland in Euro 96.

    3.  David Robertson. Yes, if you want to be a world class full-back, it helps if your name is Robertson. He fell out with Craig Brown and never got near a Scotland squad again.

    4. George Connelly. Scotland's Beckenbauer. A world-class centre-back who seemed to suffer from mental health problems and kept walking out on Celtic. His career was over, aged 25.

    5. Willie Young. He played for Aberdeen, Tottenham and Arsenal and would have been the obvious replacement for Gordon McQueen in the 1978 World Cup had he not been banned for life after a riotous night in Copenhagen.

    6. Alex Cropley. He got his first cap for Scotland, aged 20. A series of injuries meant he got his last cap for Scotland, aged 20.

    7. Ralph Milne. Scotland's George Best. Yes, he could drink a bottle of brandy for breakfast and have another for lunch. He nearly got Alex Ferguson the sack because Fergie signed him for Manchester United not realising his legs had gone.

    8. Ian Durrant. Arguably the  most promising midfielder of a generation that included Paul McStay and Paul Gascoigne. Then came that robust tackle from Neil Simpson...

    9. Gary O'Connor. Capped for Scotland, age 18. Now more famous for cocaine and running away from policewomen.

    10. Peter Marinello. Scotland's George Best. Have I heard that before, somewhere? A record-breaking transfer to Arsenal induced him to take the high road to London and, well, disappear...

    11. Eddie Gray. The best left-winger ever to play for Scotland? He had the skill of John Robertson and the physique of Oliver Burke. He would have played in the 1974 and 1978 World Cups but for a bad tackle on his knee. Instead, Tommy Hutchinson played in 1974 and Willie Johnston got one game in 1978 before being sent home in disgrace. 

  4. 17 hours ago, GaryWood34 said:

                 Marshall

    Pat McKenna mulgrew Robbo

            McTom McGinn

    Macgregor Fraser Forrest

                 Griff or Naisy

     

     

     

     

    That team qualifies.

    Who's Pat McKenna? Scott's brother..?

  5. 23 minutes ago, Alan said:

    What's been positive about the 2 games?  Andy Robertsons goal?  McTominay showing promise?

    I'm not saying Clarke is at risk.  I still want him in the job but the 2 games have been disappointing.  Strachan went offensive and challenged (and sometimes beat) teams like Croatia, Germany and England.  Culturally we cannot sit back and at Killie he pressed teams higher up the pitch and reduced options and made opposition make mistakes.

    When we had the McKenna chance that was a great passing move up the pitch and the morale and confidence would have soared if we had scored and I'm confident we'd have had them pinned back in their own half.  

    Need to be more positive and play higher up the park.

     

    We needed to be more positive and play higher up the park so Hazard could hit us on the counter-attack with lots of space to run into. Great idea.

  6. 8 minutes ago, Alan said:

    I suported Steve Clarkes appointment but the last 2 games have been utterly dreadful.  Defensive.  Passive.  Weak.  

    Some people are impatient but OMG! Clarke has to be given time to get to know the players.

  7. 3 hours ago, Bobby Russell's Lovechild said:

    According to today's paper, they have to find out if he qualifies through a grandfather he's never met

    An ex-girlfriend of mine was born in London and her father had been born in Burma. She had to go back at least to the grandparents to find a Scottish link. But she had a Scottish name and always considered herself Scottish. It was a shock to her when she came to Scotland and discovered that everyone else thought she was English. I'm not saying this applies to Fredericks but let's not write a guy off before he's even kicked a ball for Scotland. 

  8. He was always a good central defender for Scotland and it is sad to see him depart in this way. If he had been in the defence against the USSR (Spain, 1982), we would have been spared that comical cock-up that put us out. His nutmeg set Jim Bett up for the cross that resulted in Richard Gough's winning goal against England in 1985. His managerial record at Motherwell, Hibernian and Rangers was not that of a dud - it's unfair to call him that. All he did in 2018 was to answer the call from his country - it's not his fault if he was already over the hill.

  9. 23 minutes ago, Chripper said:

     

     

    23 minutes ago, Chripper said:

    Agree with everything you said.

    It's complete scandalous. Personally I'm still with the outright mutiny plan: a flat-out boycott of matches, both home and away. If people choose to attend matches, that's fine, they can contribute to our cause by taking banners and by voicing their discontent. Boycotting official merchandise, but it's fine to buy from third party places.

    I don't know about anyone else here, but I've had enough. The lack of a word said about Alex McLeish's *incident* is the straw that broke the camel's back. The SFA have NOTHING but contempt for us - it's been the case for umpteen generations of Scotland fans - and it's time we stood up as one and told them to fuck the hell off! This is our team, not theirs. 

    The SFA, like everyone else, are subject to Employment Law. Disciplinary action is conducted in private and the employee has a right to state his case and, after that, appeal if a decision goes against him. If they did leak anything to the newspapers, that would prejudice a tribunal. Apart from that, it would be unprofessional of The SFA to publicly undermine one of their own employees - which is what McLeish is. 

    To be honest, I am less concerned about the so-called "incident" and more concerned about the team performance in Kazakhstan. McLeish had 80 minutes to turn things around with substitutions and changes of tactics. 

     

  10. 25 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said:

    Fletcher is probably the one player we don’t have a replacement for. He’s so important to the way we play. 

    If we've only got one style of play then we get predictable and it's easy for other managers to pick their team selections against us. If Fletcher and Christie are out, it's disappointing but it's also an opportunity for other players.

  11. 8 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said:

    At 20 years old he's willing to whore himself out to Australia to get a cap then can't say I'm overly bothered.

    Can't just go about capping players in case they fuck off to anther country. If that's how they value international football and playing for Scotland then fuck them.

    Instead of working hard to improve his game and eventually getting into the Scotland team, he'd rather take the easy option of a cap for Australia. But... has nobody noticed that this might be a good sign? Is it harder, now, to get a cap for Scotland than for Australia? Most certainly, that was not the case 10 or 15 years ago. Surely this suggests that the standard of Scottish football is improving?

  12. 14 hours ago, csinclair said:

    He was approached by Mackay and he said he needed time to consider it.

    we don’t know if eck has even approached him since taking over.

    If he has and he wasn’t interested  then fair enough, but until he publicly says he doesn’t want to play for us then I’d try get him involved  

    What is stopping Che Adams (or anyone else) phoning up McLeish and saying he'd like to be considered for a Scotland cap? There's no dignity in a national manager chasing after players who are, at best, partially interested.

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