Morrisandmoo
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Mon the killie! Fuck yez aw.
You can only point this out when you win. But there was equivalent injury time accrued in each half.
In the first half 4 mins accrual resulted in 2 mins additional time. In the second half 4 mins accrual resulted in 8mins additional time.
Both Var and the additional discretionary injury time have resulted in officials providing the old firm with even more advantages than before.
Personally a find it a little annoying. Discretion needs to be limited to minimise unconscious bias. -
Please keep thread on topic.
Hibs 6 - 0 Aberdeen.
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On 1/5/2022 at 8:19 PM, Morrisandmoo said:
We will be flying in about this diddy league wae the claw end of a hammer noo.
In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.Also we will pump Aberdeen next season. One way or another. I can feel it in my water.
This post has aged better than expected.
Alston won the League at Rugby Park.
Aberdeen are shite without McInnes
'Mon the Darvel
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I am very pleased that the Scottish government have changed their policy and re-permitted Scottish football.
Another part of me wishes that they had persisted for a little longer, just to prove to a certainty that it was worthless and stupid.
Unfortunately they have been shitebags and quickly deferred instead to English policies. So it will be more difficult to prove that they were stupid ideas all along. However hopefully we have clever enough analysts to distill the obvious.
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4 minutes ago, Lamia said:
Oh really 😆Thanks for your expert input!
It’s not just me. The Scottish government have already reversed their position!
Before the ink is dry on their initial position!
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9 hours ago, phart said:Although no one has had it as hard as folk unable to attend a couple of football games, thoughts and prayers and all that.
For no reason. Don’t forget that. The meagre sacrifice made by the Scottish football fan has been for no benefit whatsoever. That is clear.
These people have been elected and entrusted to make good decisions.And they have made many bad ones recently.
And it is easy to excuse them all, because in the ultimate analysis nothing matters - least of all football.
However, we have very little time on this earth. We shouldn’t spend it inside for no reason.
The Scottish government should never have banned footballs crowds. It has been a terribly stupid decision which alas has been of no use.
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2 hours ago, Lamia said:
The only reason the Scottish Government make the comparisons is because the media are constantly trying to paint Scotland in a comparatively bad light. They are forced into the comparisons otherwise all we would get is the negative press comments.
Too generous.
The SNP and Nicola Sturgeon post some amount of shite on social media. And nobody is making them.
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21 hours ago, Ally Bongo said:
In the weeks and months that Scotland is doing well it is not a competition with England
In the weeks that Scotland is not - then it is
Unionism 101
Totally, it’s embarrassing either way. I’ve seen loads of this from both the SNP and unionists.
We should be less concerned about tiny variations in death rates from week to week and more concerned about overall death rates and health outcomes in Scotland compared to everywhere else in Europe.
https://jech.bmj.com/content/69/1/20
We should focus COVID comparisons on learning from each other and tolerate (encourage even) variations in policy (and experimentation). Instead we pillory anybody that doesn’t conform (remember Norway).
I’m glad England are taking a different approach. We will learn something if their NHS is overwhelmed and we will learn something if it is not. If they get good results then it is good for us all.
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1 hour ago, phart said:
On the question at hand
Covid deaths make up the majority of "excess deaths"
Yeah so the difference in Dec is not typical (or at least we're just zooming in too much!) and can see you don't lose much in practice, at the moment, if you look at either covid deaths or excess deaths.
The total deaths are important too (but for different reasons). I don't think a lot of folk appreciate that current death rates are only as bad as 2015. And even 2020 I think was only as bad as 1999. The reason, to some extent at least, is that folk (experts and laymen alike) love the drama of quoting the excess deaths being "worse on record in peacetime". Another example, in my opinion, of a touch of covid tunnel vision.
Excess deaths are good for telling us pressure caused by unplanned deaths. Whereas total death rates add perspective and should give us confidence (optimisim?) that we can comfortably adapt to post-covid mortality risk (in time).
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41 minutes ago, exile said:
Indeed, if you're deid you're deid. But I'm not sure that is an argument for any particular stance. Sure, if you overdo COVID restrictions, more people could die of other things, but if you underdo it, hospitals will pile up with COVID patients and more people will die of non COVID conditions anyway.
And from this, again, I wouldn't conclude that being overly COVID focused was causing worse excess deaths overall.
I wasn't implicitly making the argument that we are in fact seeing excess deaths as a result of over-doing covid response - rather making a more generalised point.
Although by definition, being overly covid focused would cause worse excess deaths overall. Maybe there is a wide margin for error (maybe there isn't), but certainly taken too far then you'll get worse results. The way you've framed it - it's like all the measures or zero measures = same result i.e. the bodies pile up just as high either way. Which obviously isn't the case (at least if viewed over a reasonably short timeline) otherwise what are we all worried about (we're all going to die anyway!)
What is too little, too much or just right is the thing we don't know and are obviously all trying to judge. And it's my opinion that basing those judgement on a wide pool of data and insights is better than a narrow pool. In that respect, when assessing which health initiatives to prioritise then total deaths matter imo.
I wasn't making the argument BTW that we are necessarily too strict (I personally think we were too late with 27Dec restrictions to make a meaningful difference and wouldn't have bothered myself - although the earlier Dec guidance prob made a difference to behaviors). I was more making the argument that I've seen us get very narrow in our public discourse which I believe risks us making sub-optimal choices from time to time (e.g. vaccine passports).
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11 hours ago, phart said:
Simply stunning. Should plaster that chart everywhere.
Also emphasises how obsessing over getting younger people vaccinated (through vaccine passports or whatever) is playing around the edges (and in my opinion mainly about blame, prejudice and division). When vaccination drives should be focusing on the last 1% in 50+ who are healthy enough to benefit from a vaccine.
That being said, how you get old stubborn cunts to do anything though is beyond me.
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14 hours ago, exile said:
Awesome, thank you!
Highlights to me the importance of having a wider perspective on society and avoiding a hyper-focus on Covid. Given we (Scotland) are showing covid deaths going down at the end of the year, while excess mortality overall spiked up (albeit I'm not sure what they've done with the delayed registration point) - in contrast to other UK nations.
If you're deed your deed.
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Is there overall death rates for the nations presented in as easy a format to digest? Be interested to see non-covid deaths + covid deaths as Exile has above?
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We need a workable wealth tax. The amount of money that needs to be invested in our health and care system (to meet reasonable expectations) must be astronomical.
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On 1/4/2022 at 5:25 PM, phart said:
I’ve got to say that I am very much encouraged by this (eg icu experience being close to a normal year in London) if it holds. That is not what I expected with those case numbers I have to say.
It also clearly underlines that we need more NHS capacity generally, and as quickly as we can build it, even if COVID magics itself away.
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On 1/3/2022 at 9:37 AM, TDYER63 said:
Anyway, I know you know all this , I am only rambling on at 9.30 am on a miserable Monday morning as I made my way to work thinking I was working only to find out its a holiday for 1 Jan 😫
Have done that myself. A bittersweet experience!
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We will be flying in about this diddy league wae the claw end of a hammer noo.
In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.Also we will pump Aberdeen next season. One way or another. I can feel it in my water.
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Of course if you do decide to have a go, you run the risk of phart rightfully calling you out on your bullshit!
But of course…that’s an essential part of the process too…
Trust the process 😁
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32 minutes ago, exile said:
If we agree that public health decisions are for politicans then surely that means there is room for debate, for people to make their own judgment and not 'bow down' to others, and, in the context of TAMB, people's opinions on TAMB do count! 😉
Don’t worry Tyder wasn’t bowing down to anybody. She was just semi-politely saying that neither of us really know the answer and she couldn’t be bothered listening to me nipping her heed for days about what I think the answer is.
Wholeheartedly agree that it is for folk to make up their own god damn minds, to say as much (on the TAMB or anywhere else) and vote accordingly.
Whether they are a scientist or an unqualified conspiricay theorists. They can all have a go and the demos will decide in the end. Most of the time we get it right*
*in the end.
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21 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said:
So I think the answer is it’s the second as in - it’s the % of people going into hospital for one reason or another (car accidents to respiratory distress) testing positive for COVID? Which just tells you every cunt has COVID, rather than anything about hospitalisations.
Overall hospitalisations have not increased by 50%? Although I’ve no idea if that would be normal this time of year or not!
Hospitilastion data is so hard to make heads of tails as it is partly rubbish data and you have so many folk (deliberately or otherwise) muddling it up (including very senior personnel in the NHS and government).
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On 12/31/2021 at 12:53 AM, aaid said:
in other news, hospitalisations in England up by 50% in the last week
Is this true? What were prior week and then following week total hospitalisations? Or do you mean the % of people that are being hospitalised that are testing positive for COVID has increased by 50%.
How do hospitalisation rates per head of population compare to prior year averages? Is it drunken festive period shenanigans?
I have not been keeping up to speed with the news.
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4 minutes ago, phart said:
The one problem is it might not be wise in the very labour force that is being talked about in that tweet.
Hospitals are full of folk that are high risk from covid. In almost every other industry you're maybe right, it's becomes a real gamble in this case.
Yeah I can see why it would be an agonising decision for the NHS and care system. Very finely balanced, with lives on the line.
Ita easier expressing opinions on the internet or in the pub than making the decisions in real life - which hopefully people appreciate.
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On 12/23/2021 at 8:41 AM, TDYER63 said:
Since I am not a scientist I will bow to your better judgment.
Public health decisions are for politicians not scientists. Democracy > >> technocracy IMO.
However I also suspect you are not a politician…so I take your point!
And I only really bring it up since I think the COVID experience will precipitate a debate regarding whether decisions should be made by experts or the dafties. And I wanted to get my cards on the table early.
#teamdafties
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1 hour ago, phart said:
We probably need to stop non-symptomatic isolation most of the time
Season 23/24
in Football related - Discussion of non TA football
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Killie should also have had a penalty when Johnston dived and cleared the ball off the line with his arm. Not reviewed.
I mean VAR doesn’t even need to look at the incident. Just review Johnston’s guilty face.
Again there are limited opportunities to point out the inequity of VAR and extended injury time and the significant advantages conferred upon the old firm by these systems. As you can only really point it out when you beat them.