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    The Brexit Thread

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    9 minutes ago, aaid said:

    Correlation doesn't necessarily equate to causation. 

    I'd say in each of those cases the reason is more to do with what Theresa May and the Tory party have done rather than anything that Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour Party have done.

    Correct. 

    The hapless labour party should be 20-30 percentage points ahead in the polls now. 

    The only way useless Corbyn could get into power is if ukip re-emerge as a strong political party again and split the tory vote. 

    Mir doesn’t necessarily have to be ukip. Farage is threatening to set up a new anti eu political party. 

    The Brexit Thread

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    Looks like May is going to rewrite the good Friday agreement to get her deal through and rumour is that she’s going to drop the back stop to save her ‘precious’ tory party from splitting in two.

    I don’t think the nationalist community, or the Irish government will be too happy about this.

    Imo the Irish government will reject this proposal. 

    The Brexit Thread

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    29 minutes ago, exile said:

    Normally there would be some satisfaction in seeing an inept, arrogant, callous leader get a humiliating parliamentary trouncing, but May seems impervious to humiliation and determined to cling on even if it trashes her party and the country.

    What country, England or Scotland?

    please don’t fall for the UK/Britain is a country part that all the unionist politicians and the bbc like to push at every opportunity. 

    The Brexit Thread

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    36 minutes ago, thplinth said:

    Fine ignore it then, I don't give a fuck to be honest outside of being called a liar.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/world/france-and-germany-join-forces-as-a-single-superpower-fjf3bgv60

     

    I’m not ignoring it and I’m certainly not calling you a liar, I’d just rather hear it from a non biased scaremongering rag.

    I believe that a lot of the ignorance we see from leave voters stems from fear mongering whipped up by these newspapers.

    The times is in the etc. part 😂

    The Brexit Thread

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    34 minutes ago, kumnio said:

    Guardian article is accurate, Corbyn is a flop who hasn’t delivered what he said he would. He is also a two faced inept leader, who couldn’t take advantage of the biggest shit storm to hit politics in my lifetime, he absolutely should fuck off. 

    Britain Elects
     
     
     
     

    Westminster voting intention:

    CON: 40% (-1)

    LAB: 34% (-5)

    LDEM: 10% (+3)

    GRN: 4% (-)

    UKIP: 4% (+1) via

    , 21 Dec - 04 Jan Chgs. w/ 17 Dec

     

    https://mobile.twitter.com/britainelects/status/1081678914123124741

    It didn’t paste well, but at least you get the figures. 

    The Brexit Thread

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    13 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said:

    I would say there is more of a chance it would be for another indyref as Brexit deal is due to be signed off by the end of March (if there is to be one). A General Election conceivably does not need to happen for about another four years.

    Preparation for both scenarios is the point I was making. 

    The Brexit Thread

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    3 hours ago, hampden_loon2878 said:

    I dont think the snp are ready for another GE, i hope she hangs on

    My local party were told to start campaigning after the new year a few weeks back. 

    They’ve not been told if it’s for either a GE or indy ref. 

    I suppose no one knows at this stage considering if May could get her bill through or not  

    If a GE is called, or if there’s a change of leadership, then an Indy referendum will be put on the back burner, imo, for 6 months or so to see if the SNP can get the dream ticket of Boris Johnson as PM. 

    The Brexit Thread

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    1 minute ago, stocky said:

    I think a European Army would be a force for good,  a lot better that A British Army ever could be,

    They already have an economic policy and in reality an Immigration Policy ( thats whey the wee englanders want out) 

    None of your concerns concern me....  no criticism , just a different viewpoint. 

    Me too.

    I think that the only reasons the little englanders don’t like the idea of an eu army is that:

    1. They don’t like Jonny foreigner being in charge.

    2. The sponging queen won’t be the head of it. 

    3. They can’t start wars on their own when they want. 

    The Brexit Thread

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    22 minutes ago, aaid said:

    I think that's spot on, I'd say it would have been a lot later than 2021, probably towards the end of the 2020s.   I suspect the SNP would have focused on securing further devolution and building support for independence over a longer period. 

    Brexit pretty much changes everything.    

    That also gives the electorate time to forget all the better together lies. 😒

    Plus there’s no guarantee that there would be a majority in Holyrood for an independence referendum then. 

    The Brexit Thread

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    29 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said:

    True but last time around the 55.4% of Yes voters were not all hard core, come what may No voters. I'd say there were probably around 40% that are die hard No voters so a Yes vote this time is by no means an impossibility. Also I'd say the die hard No voters are diminishing with time and not likely to increase.

    I’m sure in 2014 the die hard no supporters was polled around 25%. 

    The Brexit Thread

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    3 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said:

    Just try and leave the club and we’ll make sure your economy fails as best we can ha. Kinda like Scotland leave the union. 

    I’m assuming you mean that England will ensure our economy fails. 

    Considering Scotland would be back in the eu and England has a single market agreement with the eu, I find that scenario very unlikely. 

    The Brexit Thread

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    15 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said:

    The point is though I'd sooner see Scotland fail on its own merits making its own key decisions in this world rather than being kept under the thumb and told what it will or won't do. Okay if Scots make a mess of it I'd feel far at ease it was that way than being under the conditions of Westminster.

    Totally agree with you on this 👍🏻

    The Brexit Thread

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    1 minute ago, ParisInAKilt said:

    Exactly. Which is why I find people defending and wanting to maintain it bizarre.

    My criticism of the EU isn’t an endorsement of Westminster. Which isn’t democratic either. 

    What a lot of people don’t realise is that most, if not all, countries in the world are not truly independent, going by some Brexiteers thinking, when it is such a global society now. 

    For instance the USA government  can easily dictate your interest rates, exchange rates etc by simply imposing sanctions, Turkey, Iran, Russia for example. Or their banks can take a massive hit and that effect is felt around the world. 

    Unfortunately the USA can crush our economy on a whim if it really wanted too. 

    The old bt line of you’re not really independent if the boe sets your interest rates is somewhat true, but so is the scenario above true. 

    The uk for decades periodically signed up to a lot of perceived bad things in the eu, the Lisbon treaty, CFP, a mute point imo, etc.

    Successive westminster governments are to blame for that. 

    The Brexit Thread

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    12 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said:

    Almost like once you’re in you can’t leave. Doesn’t sound very democratic. 

    Unfortunately no, but look at it from the eu’s point of view. 

    Its their market and you have to play by their rules. Norway?

    They just can’t let a member go politically, but let them cherry pick back into the lucrative single market. If that was the case then most other member states would do the same and then you wouldn’t have an eu, just a trading block. 

    Btw, when have Westminster ever  been democratic.

    Think of the old empire and the act of union here

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