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    The Brexit Thread

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    10 minutes ago, Alan said:

    It's the same nonsense as "run by Westminster".  I'm staggered by the lack of awareness by nationalists.  Scotland has been fed this simplified dumbed down grievance politics for decades. The Leavers have repackaged it.  They saw the success and used it.  FFS Blackford was talking about William Wallace last week, Humza Yousaf  was quoting Burns and Leavers are going about World War 2.

    6 MEP's

    Largest block the Conservative/Centre Right EPP

    Unelected representatives

    It's all so familiar and tiresome.

    Has Westminster not just ridden rough shot over the SG?

    Taken back powers from Scotland?

    Westminster is giving preferential treatment to N.I. and Gibraltar, but ignored Scotland voting remain to drag us along with England even though our exports will be adversely effected more than the rest of the UK. 

    These are just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to how nasty Westminster is to Scotland and we’ve got every right to be aggrieved. 

    Go do one Alan. 

    The Brexit Thread

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    1 hour ago, ParisInAKilt said:

    I’m sure I could find some quotes from people within the higher positions of the EU that give a hint of that. Who is “Britain” unionist politicians can and will do that but it’s still false.

    Not only do British politicians claim this, one senior lying toad minister actually said that Scotland ceased to exist as a country back in 1707 and became part of England. 

    Guess who.

    Having an eu army is not quite the same as being a country. 

    How long has NATO been on the go. 

    No one knows what 50 years later will bring. 

    The eu could disintegrate? anything can happen. 

    The Brexit Thread

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    7 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said:

    That’s a decision for Ireland no?

    Using social media to gauge public opinion is probably a bad idea, unless it’s to suit an agenda, easy to find such opinions online, didnt we try and reject that during the Indy referendum?

    I’d love it if we could but there’s very little public or polical will unfortunately. 

    Was it the Irish who started this petition?

    As I said ‘arrogance.’

    I should have added that I don’t think any political party in Scotland wants to, or can achieve a socialist utopia here. 

     

     

    The Brexit Thread

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    2 minutes ago, Rolling hIlls said:

    I have figured.  Would rather be run from Scotland.  Is that simple enough for you?

    I’ve no problem with that. 

    But my choice was between Westminster and the eu. 

    Your option, at the moment, would incur a much bigger hurdle for the Scottish electorate to swallow for us to be independent. 

    Personally I’ve always advocated that the SNP should offer a multi option referendum on Scotland place with the eu and I lean more towards EFTA. 

    The Brexit Thread

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    52 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said:

    How is leaving the EU and attempting national sovereignty anything like the empire? 

    Don’t get me wrong I don’t think anyone within government actually wants a proper brexit anymore, if they ever did but there is people out there’s who view the EU and the Tories as poison alike. 

    National sovereignty by trying to include Ireland back into the empire fold. 

    You only have to read some of the comments in the DM, DT etc to see that these mad fruit loop brexiters dream of their lost empire, albeit under the guise of the commonwealth. 

    The Brexit Thread

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    15 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said:

    Granted.

    I do feel though, that there are far more people around who regret how they voted last time than the other way around. And how Brexit has been handled will help push more into the Yes camp. A swing of around 250,00 from the last time is what is needed.

    190,000 by my rough calculations. 

    I await correction though. 😄

    The Brexit Thread

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    3 hours ago, Caledonian Craig said:

    Yes I have heard the first one used heavily and it really is insulting. It works two ways. We have produce that the rest of the UK are desperate for ie Scottish Beef, whisky, gin, fish, farming produce etc etc. Make no mistake the rest of the UK will be more desperate not to lose those items from their shops than us to have trade deals with them.

    As for the hard borders one well that works both ways as does the passport issue but will be far easier to travel within Europe if we are in EU. 

    No BBC. No license fee.

    And if we get nuked the rest of the UK would get obliterated as well from fall-out. Another war will be the final war for the whole of the world anyway. The UK's trident is like a pea-shooter anyway.

    Yes we the more politically aware and more savvy know these things,  but to the less knowledgeable it’s a good (any) excuse not to vote yes. 

    Imo the SG should start by not give the GERS report any credence what so ever  in fact they should rubbish it altogether.

    it makes the job of us who try to persuade people to vote yes all the harder.

     

    The Brexit Thread

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    The favourite one they’ll use is; you’ll lose your biggest trading partner. 

    Other favourites.

    Not be able to play the UK lottery. 

    You’ll not receive the bbc.

    you’ll need a passport to visit relatives in England. 

    There will be a hard border with border controls. 

    The Russians and North Korea will invade or nuke you. 

    What about the workers in Liverpool. 

    The queen is not happy. 

    The Brexit Thread

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    12 minutes ago, aaid said:

    That's a total non-starter and is a case of a drawing woman clutching at straws.

    The biggest fundamental problem for her is that it would be overturning the will of the people in two referendums, one in NI and one in the ROI that ratified the GFA.

    She doesn’t care, she’s only interested in saving the tory party. To hell with everyone else.

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