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    The Brexit Thread

    in Anything Goes - Other topics not covered elsewhere

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    40 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said:

    For Scotland as I remember it. Project fear involved not just the media but the entire British and worldwide establishment. 

    It was a well known fact that Cameron was practically begging world leaders and his banking friends to get involved. 

    Of course France and Spain had their own breakaway problems and I wouldn’t say the world’s establishment was against Scottish independence.

    UK Banks had a lot to loose if Scotland went independence at that time the pound would have plummeted and England’s economy, on its own, wouldn’t have looked that rosey. They had a vested interest to keep the status quo to protect their English interests. 

    I understand where you’re coming from, but we’re dealing with two different analogies here. Scotland being overwhelmingly ruled by Westminster is not the same as the uk being in the Eu. 

    Have a nice day I’m off to the pub soon 😉

    The Brexit Thread

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    1 hour ago, ParisInAKilt said:

    I remember a lot of businesses, banks and mark carney, Obama and folk from the EU warning against independence. 

    Think it was called project fear and probably put a lot of people off voting YES.

    Look I think Brexit financially will be very hard, hating the EU and what I represents doesn’t mean you think it will be financially beneficial to people in the UK

    Back to what I said earlier; for who?

    if you notice many of the scaremongers didn’t exactly say it would ruin Scotland’s economy, they generalised and in my opinion they were referring to the rUK economy. 

    I seem to remember them saying it would be bad for the economy which was spun by the papers .

    Yes I agree brexit will be a bad hit. Exporting businesses want seamless trading with their biggest market and with the uk leaving that free market that’s making most of those companies upping sticks. 

    The Brexit Thread

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    21 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said:

    That’s my point, folk seem to what to cherry pick when they believe economists and the media 

    My point was more to do with Scotland’s situation in regards to independence, I’m sure you guessed that. 

    I take your point, but it is interesting that during the independence referendum campaign I couldn’t recall any loss of investment or firms announcing closures. 

    Yes some threats, but even a blind man could see through them. 

    With the brexit campaign and result, remember there’s still a more likely chance that there will be an agreement on some sort of single market, there’s been tens billions of investments lost and countless manufacturing announcements already. 

    Even the P&J, a staunch tory rag, is saying thousands of farmers face ruin because of brexit. 

    The Brexit Thread

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    1 hour ago, Ally Bongo said:

    Billy Mitchell on his London Brexit jaunt

    I believe STV gave them headline news

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    Not only was billy boy and Tommy Robinson at the London brexit demonstration today, another attendee was right winger Aaron Brown of fishing for leave.

    He’s allegedly a member of storm front a white supremacy anti Semitic group. 

    Nice old jolly gathering today by the looks of it. 

    The Brexit Thread

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    5 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said:

    Cameron brought about this Brexit vote to extinguish the threat of UKIP. Evidence so far would say if anything it will fuel UKIP if anything.

    Correct and votes would mostly come from tory supporters, but they’d be a few from labour too. 

    On another note; I see billy boy Mitchell is doing a gig with his flute band at the brexit March in London today. 

    I suppose a few hundred of an audience would be a rise on the usual crowd he plays for in Scotland. 

    The Brexit Thread

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    2 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said:

    If that happened it may well might but I have my doubts there would be a stampede to Vote Labour following all the anti-Semetic stuff. There is the other alternative of Tories staying in power and having a No Deal Brexit which would aid independence case but hit us in the pockets hard before any indyref even takes place.

    Labour are still behind in the polls, so it looks as though it’ll be a hung parliament.

    Then again anything can happen when a GE is called.

    Splits in the two main parties and Brexit revenge from the voters (both sides) could easily play their part. 

    The Brexit Thread

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    1 hour ago, exile said:

    Did anyone spot how our Scots Tories voted in the recent indicative vote? 

    Did they seek to protect jobs and the economy and integration and vote for the softest Brexit, as we'd expect Ruth D should passionately argue?

    Did they vote to defend the precious precious union as we'd expect of those staunchly supporting the DUP's blood red lines?

    Or did they meekly ditch both of those principled stances to fall in line with their party leader? 

    I’m not a betting man, but if I were I’d put the house on it not being your first point.

    The second and third yes. 

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