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16 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said:
MoM for Liam Lyndsay in Stokes 0-0 draw today. Maybe if I keep saying it he will come good.
Personally hoping that Steven Fletcher is available for the Euro's, he is the only player we have who is even close to international class.
It seems fairly obvious Fletcher isn't interested. I know beggars can't be choosers, but if he or anyone else who have "retired" from the international team decides to make a comeback cause we're close to a finals, they should be told to piss off.
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1 hour ago, Toepoke said:
Still under 30. If he can get a run of form definitely worth considering!
100%.The guy is a natural goalscorer, we just need to hope he can get a run of games and stay fit.
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10 hours ago, Malcolm said:
mctominay is 6ft4. Surely he can win a few headers? He man marks mitrovic and tierney sweeps up behind.
So, a central pairing of McTominay and say, McBurnie then? He's big too.
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19 hours ago, Barney Rubble said:
McTominay and McGregor as holding midfielders.
Christie, McGinn and Forrest have nailed the 3 (Armstrong/Fraser as back-ups)
and Naismith/Shankland up top
McKimmie, Hansen, Tierney and Robertson at the back please.
McTominay and McGregor aren't holding midfielders though, and Forrest has nailed fuck all. He's went back to being a passenger again.
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17 hours ago, Brummie Hibs said:
Tierney isn't getting any game time.
Griffiths isn't getting any game time.
Cooper is pish.
Souttar is even pishier.
How is Tierney not getting game time?He's played at least 75 mins in 4 of Arsenal's last 6 games
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16 hours ago, bazmidd said:
No way should we be sacrificing McGregor or McTominay if both are fit against any sides seeded or ranked below us. These two compliment each other well and long term could be a very good Midfield partnership.
Remind me again which game it was that those two ran show in midfield? Cause for the life of me, I can't remember the last time a Scotland midfield dominated a game against any reasonable opposition, even though it's our strongest department.
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10 hours ago, The_Dark_Knight said:
A day or so ago I was lambasted/mocked for not watching the SPL. Some people truly do think that the SPL is the zenith of football.
They watch McGregor, Christie, Forrest, etc, tear SPL teams to shreds and it clouds their judgment.
Think your being harsh on Christie. I agree that the games usually pass McGregor by a bit more than I'd like, and apart from a couple of games last year Forrest is a waste of a shirt. But I think Christie is a bit of a talent and could go places.
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1 hour ago, 0Neils40yarder said:
Tierney isn't a right back
It's debatable whether Palmer or O'Donnell are either. He might not be a right back, but he is a full back, and a very good one too who shouldn't be missing out because of what foot he kicks with.
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22 minutes ago, Dalgety Bay TA said:
Andy Robertson does very well in a specific, attacking, role for a Liverpool side who dominates a lot of games and where he is surrounded by top quality players. I have a Liverpool supporting mate who will point as and when Robertson makes defensive mistakes for Liverpool. On the odd occasion they cost goals, on others, due to those around about him, they don't.
Robertson will never reproduce his Liverpool style of play in a Scotland shirt unless we are playing the weakest of nations. He doesn't have the same quality around about him, he won't get to attack in the same manner and his team as a whole won't dominate in the way Liverpool can dominate a game. He's a very good player in the role he plays for Liverpool. Bar the actual position he plays, that's where the similarities end for Scotland. I actually think Tierney is stronger defensively than him.
McGregor is similar. He looks sharp and inventive playing in a Celtic side that dominates most games domestically. He doesn't get the same time on the ball or options playing against a Russia or Belgium. He will try his best in all games, sometimes it looks great for Celtic, sometimes he looks what he is ,which is a pretty good SPL player, for Scotland.
You could possibly label both "flat track bullies". That is probably harsh on Robertson who is part of a very successful side who have won a lot of big games but maybe not so harsh on McGregor.
At the end of the day our "big" players aren't actually that "big" in the overall top level of football.
Spot on. As I said earlier, playing what's classed as our best players doesn't necessarily mean that makes our best team. I think that was shown against Russia.
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50 minutes ago, wee-toon-red said:
I think this is where Boyd got his criticisms spot on last night. Although he was speaking specifically about Scottish football, his points about robotic, formulaic players were spot on in general football terms. With the possible exception of Christie, all of our midfielders are more or less the same. Maybe McGregor and McTominay have the ability to follow higher levels of tactical instruction, hence their playing with more successful teams, but take them out of those teams and they don't have the ability to influence a game in any noticeable way.
I think Robertson is the same, a very, very effective player in a team where he was signed because he fits the system, but nothing about him is truly outstanding other than perhaps his desire and work-ethic.
For me, top-level football is becoming more and more about systems and structures rather than individual brilliance. Even look at De Bruyne last night - he just does everything consistently well rather than any one thing being particularly outstanding. We need a coach who really gets the tactical side of the game and will pick the players that fit that, rather than trying to get our supposed best players to fit a different system. Liverpool are a great example of this and even Guardiola's teams are similar, filled with players who absolutely understand what is required of them rather than being expected to come up with something out of nothing themselves.
I actually think Clarke will be the man to do that so this certainly isn't a Clarke Out post in case anyone takes it that way.
Agree with this and touched on something similar in another thread the other day. In that post I said that while McTominay, McGregor and McGinn looks great on paper, the reality was way different. Clarke has to find out our system and structure and who can play in it. Maybe these last two games will be an eye opener for Clarke and long term might turn out to be important, even if a bit embarrassing.
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53 minutes ago, AlfieMoon said:
Considering the midfield is the area of the park where we are actually strong and have options I think it was a pretty depressing night.
Other problems like the RB, centre half’s and strikers are clear as day but last night it was really disappointing to see the midfield completely hide after we went a goal up. Nobody showed for the ball. Nobody was willing to be brave and take it into feet. (Except Christie when he came on and maybe Fraser in flashes).
It really showed that we need a midfielder in the Ferguson/Brown mould who can really take grip of a game and control it. None of the current blend are up to that. I think the hope is that McTominay will grow into that player but he doesn’t look like it just now.
This nails it for me. Our midfield is, on paper, our strongest position, and has supposedly been for years, but when was the last time our midfield dominated a match? When was the last time we had a midfielder that could dictate the play? For me that would be Barry Ferguson. We can sit all day and moan about the defence but the problem is that currently the defence basically picks itself due to lack of options and also, if the midfield doesn't do its job, then the defence is in for a long night no matter who we have playing. Steve Clarke is going to have to find out quickly, who his best midfield is, not the best midfielder's, but the ones that work playing together. Last night was arguably our best midfield on paper, but got ran ragged by an average Russian side. Things have to change.
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5 hours ago, andyD said:
Go back to the last page.
I said neither of us know why he's not in the squad.
You said he wasn't in it because he's managing an injury.So, IF you're right, i gave you the astoundingly obvious reason why it's 100% logical for him to miss these games.
This is like arguing with a goldfish!
4 hours ago, Bino's said:Keep making offensive comments if you like
You get offended by being compared to a goldfish?
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36 minutes ago, Texas Pete said:
My maths was shite as we’ll still need to play Belgium at home so can’t win 5 of our last 6 and draw in Russia but 13 points out of our last 6 games wouldn’t be bad.
Hopefully we’ll keep the score respectable in Brussels. I wouldn’t exactly say I would take 0-2 now as I will remain stupidly optimistic and hope for a draw but that score would be reasonable against a brilliant Belgian team.
The only hope we have in Brussels is that after a long hard season for their players they are already on the beach mentally and let their guard down.
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Great news 😁😁😁
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41 minutes ago, kumnio said:
I was listening to BBC Sportsound a few weeks back, and the panel were convinced that McInnes’ wage was just over £15’000 a week, so that points to £800’000 a year. One of the journalists knew that to be factual, and one of the usual panelist’s said he had heard similar.
One of the guys who do the Hampden Roar podcast quoted the same figure a couple of weeks back. Said he's paid more than any of the playing squad.
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16 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said:
Wasn’t Mourinho at his most successful when Clarke was his assistant?
I suppose we can dream lol
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1 hour ago, Texas Pete said:
It’s certainly a poorer standard than the top leagues in Europe but it’s not as bad as you’re making out. Again, being a manager in Scotland does not make you a bad manager, particularly if you’ve done well here.
You may also have noticed that the national team is quite poor at the moment. There’s a reason why we won’t attract someone from a top league. Not someone that’s in s job anyway. I’d rather have Clarke or McInnes than some has been from the scrap heap that managed a team in them English premier league 20 years ago.
Look mate, at the end of the day, all I'm saying is, in my opinion, and mine alone, success here in Scotland isn't enough to merit the national post and I don't really see anything in his record against Celtic or in Europe to suggest he would be a success. I could very well be wrong and he could get the job and be a legendary Scotland manager and I'd have been wrong, but as of now I don't see it. I'm happy to be proved wrong however.
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6 minutes ago, Texas Pete said:
Still getting dafter.
It hasn’t been called the SPL for a few years now.
Michael O’Neill never even made it as high as the top flight in Scotland and he’s doing just fine.
Arguably our most successful manager, Craig Brown, had only managed Clyde in the Scottish lower leagues before he got the Scotland job.
Managing in the Scottish Premiership does not mean you’re not a good manager. McInnes has been loyal to Aberdeen. If he wasn’t he’d either be at Ibrox or managing in England.
Who cares what it's called, its still poor.
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9 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said:
And perhaps seen as our best manager - Jock Stein. He had a very brief spell at Leeds but all his success came in the SPL.
Yeah but way back then the Scottish league was of a good level, maybe even one of the best.
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6 minutes ago, vanderark14 said:
Why do they have to be higher level thank spl?
Look at our managers since 1990
Roxburgh - Scotland youth setup. Didn't even play at a high level
Brown - at the mighty clyde then assistant to roxburgh. Arguably our most successful
Vogts - probably the one manager weve had who had played and coached at the highest level but classed as a failure.
Burley - Ipswich and hearts, hardly monumental levels
Smith - succes at rangers when they were spewing out cash and then a mediocre spell at Everton. He did ok with Scotland
Mcleish- came so close in an almost impossible group but only had spl experience
Levein - spl experience but spectacular failure.
Strachan - spfl level and EPL but still failed
Mcleish- totally flopped despite EPL and championship experience
I think you've just answered your own question.
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12 hours ago, Texas Pete said:
So you slate the Scottish league as if it’s nothing but think our national manager should be some fantastic manager as if the Scotland job was something special?
You’re sounding dafter and dafter by the post.
Where did I say it had to somebody special, you're just making shit up. I just want them to be a higher level than the spl.
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32 minutes ago, Texas Pete said:
So someone who has taken his side to second in the Scottish top division for 4 years (and ran Celtic fairly close in one of those years) including a season when Rangers were back in the division and heavily outspent Aberdeen, who is also one of a only handful of managers to have won a trophy in Scotland in the last 5 years doesn’t even warrant consideration?
Dearie me.
You say "Scottish top division" like it means something. He did what he was expected to do in a piss poor league. I don't think that qualifies you for the national job, so no I don't think he warrants consideration.
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9 minutes ago, Texas Pete said:
I’m not repeating myself. If you want to know why I think McInnes is a good manager, refer to my previous post.
Shamrock Rovers qualifying for the Europa League group stages can’t really be compared to Aberdeen in Europe in recent years because Rovers qualified for it through the champions league route. They got knocked out of the CL qualifiers so only had to play one Europa League qualifier. Against a poor Partisan Belgrade team if I remember correctly. Not that I think qualifying for it wasn’t an excellent achievement.
Aberdeen were a baw hair from knocking an EPL team out of the qualifiers this season. If they had done that and qualified for the group stages would you consider McInnes as good enough then? He would still be the same person with the same skills.
Possibly, but they didn't. I take your point, but I just don't think he's shown any where near enough to be considered. I'm happy to be proven wrong however. 👍
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2 hours ago, vanderark14 said:
I’m not touting Mcinnes, I made it clear in another thread that I’d be happy with either appointment, feel free to pop over to the next Scotland manager thread
No probs mate, just knew you were a Dons fan, and thought you could shed some light on why people consider him a good choice. 👍
Scottish players in action 19/20
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Just goals, nothing important then. 🤔 For me this is just a fairytale that seems to have become fact. I've seen Rhodes play with his back to goal and link play, but people still go on about him "only" scoring goals.