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Prediction, Scotland beat Poland, Ireland draw Germany.
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I can't wait to play Germany,they're shite.
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The Dubliner.
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Its not in Dublin.you think germany will win 3-0 in dublin
did you watch our game against them, they were gash and this is the same 11
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If McCarthy and Coleman are fit to play for Ireland,this is as good a chance as any for us to knick a point,due to the amount of German injuries. However, I fear the Germans will draw with Poland and take it out on us.
Poland 1-1 Germany, Germany 4-1Ireland
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As an Irish man I don't understand why Bardsley is never picked? Has an eye for goal and is a decent Premier league standard player.
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Stop the fighting lads,and lets just all agree that Switzerland will beat England.
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Thinks I learned from Yesterday.
1,If Scotland play like that in every game they will finish second.
2,Germany aren't as invincible as once thought and they may drop points further long in the campagin.
3,It wouldn't matter if Pep Guardiola was the Irish manager,we would still play badly away from home against "lesser" teams.
4.Poland/Lewandowski state early intentions.
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Good performance lads.
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That's the big one. I personally think the results against Georgia will be the deciding factor in this group between us, you and Poland.
Georgias number 15 who scored the goal is a top player,for some reason he was subbed after about 70 minutes, had he of stayed on they may have knicked a win.
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Absolutely shocking performance,however results that count and now Scotland and Poland are under pressure to repeat our result.
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When exactly have O'Connell and Sheridan played in the champions league?
Stokes has not scored in Europe in 17 games. And only has 2 goals in 35, both coming in the same game (Europa league). Stokes has proved he can't cope at that level, where as Brown and Mulgrew have.
I think it's best not to speculate on youths from either side. We know that for every 5 promising youths, maybe 1 will make it. But please don't insult us by pretending you'd prefer to have an Aston Villa youth over a Real Madrid youth.
Sheridan is playing for some Cypriot team in the Champions League this year,hes also scored a few in qauilfying,but it doesn't make him anygood. Grealish is a first team player though thats all I'm saying.
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What are Betsy 123 's views on the ROI management team? Potential for hysterical nervous breakdowns and vicious fights?
It will either be brilliant or brutal,no inbetween.
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If Champo league is so good should Ireland call up Stokes and Cillian Sheridan,or Eoghan o Connell? Mcgeady has started 2 out of 3 games and got an assist and a goal so hes doing very well. Would rather a youngster who gets games for Villa than harper who probably wont make the grade at Real. I mentioned Grealish because he has a chance of first team apperances. I could have said Ian Lawlor and Jack Byrne,Lawlor has made Citys full champions league squad a few times.Well, that was needlessly insulting and very assumptive. Half of our fans think we will beat Germany? Where in the world have you plucked that statistic from?
Brown and Mulgrew, you mean 2 players that have played in the champions league, a level higher than the EPL?
You aren't wrong about Adam, but have a wee scan through this forum for 5 mins and you'll see that no one in Scotland wants him to play - including our Manager, which is why he didn't pick him.
I don't know much about Grealish but I don't think you can compare two 18 year olds playing for Sporting Lisbon and Real Madrid with an Aston Villa youth.
Any neutral that claims Ireland have the better squad would be basing it on the fact Scotland have not qualified for any major tournaments for over a decade. Something that is hopefully going to change.
Yes, McGeady "plays" for Everton (occasionally). His substitute appearances are very impressive. But if you want to degrade our wingers to 'SPL/lower than championship level' then lets journey back to when Maloney and McGeady both played under Strachan. When fit, Maloney was always favoured. Maloney also had a vastly superior assist and goals record than McGeady.
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Adam doesnt start though so thats why he doesnt get called up,and when he does play hes so bad that Glenn Whelan just takes his place off him again. That Phillips lad is pure tripe too he has only played in the Premier League a handfull of times,which is why he hasn't been picked.You haven't seen Robertson play often if you rate him better than O'Brien or Wilson. Mature beyond his years.
Again as has been said a thousand times before, just because an international team can name X amount of Premier League players does not necessarily mean anything. You have to take into account whether they are even getting regular games, and when getting regular games, are they even playing well ?
By your logic (and from a Scotland point of view), Gordon Strachan should have included Charlie Adam and Matt Phillips in our current squad because they play for Premier League clubs. However, the fact that they have both done nothing in Scotland jersey to merit a place meant Strachan correctly left them out.
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You haven't seen Robertson play often if you rate him better than O'Brien or Wilson. Mature beyond his years.
Again as has been said a thousand times before, just because an international team can name X amount of Premier League players does not necessarily mean anything. You have to take into account whether they are even getting regular games, and when getting regular games, are they even playing well ?
By your logic (and from a Scotland point of view), Gordon Strachan should have included Charlie Adam and Matt Phillips in our current squad because they play for Premier League clubs. However, the fact that they have both done nothing in Scotland jersey to merit a place meant Strachan correctly left them out.[/quote
I have seen Robertson,hes a young lad whos started very well,but hes very unexpierienced at a high level. Whereas Wilson and O'Brein are very expierienced. Im fairly sure our XI tomorrow will all be regular starters. Sure some Scots think that Celtic players are better than McCarthy and Gibson just because they have played in the Champions league. By thay account Ireland should call up Stokes and Cillian Sheridan.
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Agree with mostly what your saying, however I am saying you wont be on the best run of form when yous play us if results go the way they should. Also the second cb would be ours as Wilson,Delaney,Clark are all premier players and O'brein/Wilson are better than Robertson. Otherwise your spot on.Absolutely pointless arguing lads, as both teams are very similar, your Irish lad here says that they have a better squad which is debatable but I would say our form and confidence will win on the day, also if you were to pick a best 11 this would be it(bar the other centre half as we both have sub standard, including O'Shea). Fairly even.. but the fact that McGeady and McCarthy are both Scottish I think we win
Can't see them both playing to be honest, "hamstring injury" wouldn't surprise me. Should be 2 cracking games!!McGregor
Coleman O'Shea ?? Robertson
Mcgeady McCarthy Fletcher Snodgrass
Keane Naismith
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Since you are claiming Keane to be better than any of our strikers, based on past glories, I think I'll make the claim that both Maloney and Forrest are more productive than McGeady. And, when fit, still would be.
Snodgrass goes without saying.
Darren Fletcher, on form, walks into most international teams. Plus all 3 of Goalkeepers would be in front of yours.
Add in Scott Brown and Charlie Mulgrew, who have Champions league experience and there is your whole midfield gone to Scots.
Steven Fletcher's premier league goal record far outshines Shane longs. But Naismith would be ahead of both anyway.
Coleman is a very good player but it's not fair to say Hutton isn't a comparable level when he has been shunned for 2 years. But I'll give you him.
Does anyone in the Ireland team have even close to the potential that Andrew Robertson has? I think not.
So, in summary, Coleman, Keane and maybe John O'Shea (because we are weak at CB) would get in our team.
Add in the fact we have 18 year olds at Sporting Lisbon and Real Madrid not far away from staking a claim. Plus Callum McGregor that has came out of nowhere.
Sorry, but take out Keane, and you are not even close to Scotland's level.
Jack Grealish and Robbie Brady are as good as any Scottish youngster.
Shane Long and Fletcher are comparable players,Longs goal scoring record isn't great,but neither is Fletchers.
I didn't say Keane was a better player than Naismith,but anyone would prefer to have him in their team because he scores so often.
How would Muglrew and Brown who are playing at lower than championship standard better than McCarthy and Gibson who are both far superior players playing in a far superior league.
McGeady is better than your wingers,hence why he plays for Everton and your wingers play for Spl,championship teams and Celtic.
Whelan keeps Adam out of a starting place at Stoke and hes one of our worst players.
Ask any neutral who has the better squad and nearly all will tell you Ireland. You have had a good start under strachen but lets be honest,Scotland always go into a campaign brimming with hope, and are out if it after a few games, Ireland always go into a campaign with queit confidence and are normally up there challenging for a spot in the top 2 in the last few games.
You really are an ignorant lot,most of you think that yous will beat Germany and the rest of you think that Players playing in the Champipnship/Spl and lower Premier league teams are better than a squad of nearly all mid table premier league players.
Before you brag about youngsters btw,have a look at Jack Grealish and Shane Duffy,who will both be very good premier league players in their prime.
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Ireland 2-0
Germany 4-1
Poland 4-0
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If that's your best team it's no wonder you think so highly of Coleman.
They all play at a good level, but they're basically all EPL journeymen except Coleman (Keane was obviously world class, but is he still?).
Naismith and Snodgrass and Robertson would walk into that team.
Who out of your squad isnt a journey man though? Robertson is not better than Wilson,althought he may be in a few years, Keanes not World Class but he will still score goals. The fact that you only said 3 of your players would get into our squad kind of proves my point that we are better?
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He would walk into the current German team.Coleman world class? Erm.... Naw
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McCarthy won't have the balls to play against Scotland
Why wouldn't he have the balls? Whats the worst that can happen? A few middle aged,beer bellied football fans can boo him? Im sure the chap has bigger worries than that to contend with.
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Guess we will find out sooner or later on who's better. Naismith is on fire at the moment, Hutton is playing again, we have 3 top class goalkeepers who wouldnt look out of place in any side on their day. We have a squad that has been picking up momentum and graffting out results.
we have scored away goals against croatia, england, macedonia, norway, poland, and nigeria.
Ireland have mcgeadey a 1 trick pony turncoat, mcarthy is another turncoat but a good player, at least 1 will pull out before our game in october if not both
I guess we will find out soon enough,you have 3 good keepers yes,but only one plays.
Forde
Coleman-O'Shea-Delaney-Wilson
Mcgeady-McCarthy-Gibson-Brady
Keane-Long.
There is no possible XI that yous can pick at the moment that is better than that. We also have a good few premier league subs:Walters,Whelan,Clark,Given,Meyler,Quinn,Doyle,Grealish. Mark noble possibly declaring,along with Will Buckley which will give us two more decent premier league players.
We have scored goals against Germany,Portugal,Croatia,Sweden,Austria,England,Poland over the last two years that doesnt mean much.
This momentum yous love to talk about could well be reversed by the time we play yous, if we beat Georgia then Gibraltar and take a 3/4-0 of Germany we will be in good shape going into the game against Scotland. However if yous lose 3/4-0 against Germany tomorrow yous will struggle to pick it up for the Georgia game which could see yous with 1 point going into your game vs Poland,which you may well leave with a 1 point too. By the time we play yous we will have 6 from 9 (most likely).
One thing Ireland are normally good at is,getting 6 points each off Georgia and Gibraltar,then lose to Germany and draw the rest of our games with yous and Poland which is probably enough to get third spot,one win out of those 4 and the rest draws would probably clinch second spot.
I get the impression that this is Scotlands strongest team in many years,well this is Irelands weakest team in many years yet we still manage to have a higher amount of players in the Premier League than Scotland.
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Are you actually serious? Like I thought yous were deluded from reading how condfident you lot are of getting a result in Germany, but I put that down to understandable optomism,however I've seen someone say that Scotland are a level,yes a full level above Ireland and that Alan Hutton and Seamus Coleman are on the same level? Is this forum serious or is it one big piss take?Ivanovic is probably the best right back in the EPL. Coleman is probably on the same level as Hutton.
Scotland and Ireland are on similar levels, however most neutrals would agree that Ireland have a slightly better first xi and a far stronger squad. I have asked the posters of Grandoldteam,which is Evertons forum who they think is the better side and I think 80 percent said Ireland, go over and check if you want, its under "Ireland squad vs Scottish squad" thread on the "world football forum".
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Ireland tickets were 10 for kids and 20 for adults today, a crowd of 35,000 isnt too bad against Gibraltar. From watching bits of your game,there wasn't many empty seats.