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As you wouldn't respond directly, I'll have to infer the latter part of what follows from this original post and your subsequent ones:
You're saying,
There is a ruling elite pulling the strings through a 'puppet' government in the UK. That New Labour policies allowing mass immigration, weren't down to incompetence, but were deliberately orchestrated by this ruling elite who knew the consequencies of these policy decisions in advance. That this pattern of immigration has been further orchestrated deliberately for 60 years, under different 'puppet governments' (Labour/Conservative - irrelevant) and that this is the 'weapon' being used to 'break us down'? You haven't elaborated on the breaking us down part but I'm assuming it's along the lines of nurturing environmental/societal factors favourable to divide and conquer?
Beyond the newspaper articles you've linked to do you have any other references/evidence I can look at?
Harry:-
here's a useful insight into the last Labour government's immigration policy. Thplinth's talk about dissolving the people and electing a new one is exactly right.
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At School i Loved ELO... they were my band, i got everything they ever did, Jeff Lynne solo stuff, the Early Idle Race,the Move, Polish Imports, coloured vinyl ,10'' 12'' cassetes, vhs, violinski single and albums.. box sets, japanese imports, .
FFS I even had the 10 inch Pink Vinyl of Xanadu....
posters, books, badges, t shirts, everything,
I remembered all their names Bev Bevan, (who Lennon said was better than Ringo,) Mike de Alberqueque, ( great name) kelly groucett, Richard Tandy ,mik kaminski etc etc
They were great in their time From New world record thru to Time,
Cant get it out of my head, Ticket to the Moon, Horace Wimp, Sweet Talking Woman, dont walk away, excellent lesser known tunes.
After Time, they were shite... secret messages was pish...
I dont think i ever listened to them after 1982..... ( i found girls were more fun) and girls didnt dance to ELO...
recently Will.I.AM did a song using Its Over as the main background of his song and i started listening to them again..
brought back some memories of teenage band collectors OCD...
Might get a ticket for next year for nostalgia sake....
Out of the Blue is a terrific double album. Just bought it on vinyl.
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No sensible government would seek to resist people's access to drugs in any way and the reason for resisting is the government believes there is another pathway."
Not too difficult to guess what the other pathway is and in whose benefit it really is.
"Sensible government" - an oxymoron if ever there was one. Give me a break.
Yet another example, albeit a relatively minor one in the global context, of the wretchedness which predominates.
The thing that one should never forget or underestimate, not ever, is that these smarmy sociopathic sharks completely and absolutely do not give monkeys about their fellow humans. No empathy. No compassion. Genuinely not a shred of 'humanity'. It may be there is a need to revise the meaning of this word given the dominant form currently being expressed around the world.
Gie's peace. You're a dreamer/wannabe writer and a conspiracy nut.
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Foxtrot, Selling England By the Pound and Trick of the Tail by Genesis
Led Zeppelin IV
Wish You Were Here by Pink Floyd
Armed Forces By Elvis Costello
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Let's start with "fitba". Don't get much wankier than that.
The absolute worst though is pundits who refer to "the football club" every single time. I promise you, we know you're talking about football...
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Out, out, out!
Brussels is a bureaucratic nightmare, Euro membership has wrought economic devastation all over southern Europe, and then there's the explicit desire for "ever closer union", with all that implies for sovereignty. The EU is the devil.
What really grinds my gears is that some in the IN camp think the only possible explanation for being opposed to the EU is a hatred of foreigners. It shouldn't be taboo to be opposed to membership of an international organization. The Swiss and the Norwegians don't seem to have any inclination to join the EU, but the cosmopolitan internationalists don't seem to have a problem with that. It's only when their compatriots quietly suggest that EU membership isn't really something we want that they see a chance to put the boot in.
These people are either dishonest or idiots.
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When the writer after whom this column is named described the unspoken codes and rules of the British state, he called them “the English constitution”.
But it is the English constitution. The pre-1707 Scottish state took on the 1689 English constitution and inherited the English international treaties whereas the newly formed UK did not inherit the previous Scottish treaties.
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Regional assemblies got very little support when they were proposed a few years ago but, I'm not aware of there being any significant polling in England on whether there should be an English parliament. That is apart from the ever reliable politician's bellwether of "what people are telling me on the doorstep".
Even if there had been polling, there hasn't really been any form of public debate in England about what that might look like in order for them to make any kind of informed judgement.
The real problem for the UK is that the only way you can keep it together is to have everything centralised at Westminster with nothing devolved whatsoever.
There really is no workable federal or devolved model which is sustainable.
Once you start devolving power to Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland then the ultimate conclusion will be the dissolution of the union, its just a matter of how and when.
Excellent post, with the caveat that a Federal system could definitely work if tried. Whether there is the appetite for it is another matter, however...
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Regional Assemblies would be better.
These were tried during the Blair years, and rejected. Can't say I blame them one iota - who wants their country carved up into regions?
There is a huge irony in all of this... the english have been MORE than happy to vote on Scottish only affairs for generations.. it's only now that non unionist Scottish MP's actually get an input that this so called democracy is all of a sudden unfair. The unionists have some fkin brassneck. If anything should convince anyone this union is over then surely their attitude should do so. They do not support an equal union, they want to rule.
Rubbish - it's been an issue since the advent of devolution. Folk like Tam Dalyell have been pointing out the constitutional anomalies and unfairness inherent in devolution for years. Something had to be done to redress the balance.
EVEL is a fairly minor concession to be honest. The only way the Union can be "fair" now is to go down the federal road...
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what about Northern Ireland? they not allowed to be socialist?
Can't be anything just now with their first minister throwing his toys out the pram!
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45% against is hardly "committment" and as Glasgow voted Yes it's clearly a moronic and antagonistic suggestion ?
45% of those who voted. Safe to assume that those who didn't vote at all were satisfied with the status quo. So the actual Yes vote was about 37%. So Scunnered was correct.
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He always annoyed the baps off me -- his jingoism in events in his commentary during Gulf War 1 really grated. Also referred to Mr Fuji as "Wax On, Wax Off" at the 1990 Survivor Series.
Cut a ridiculous figure as a Canadian pretending to be an American pretending to be a Scot.
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England 2018 and Australia 2022 would be great.
The media are part of the problem though, especially in Europe. I'm merely a pleb but even I know Fifa is corrupt, something the media should be highlighting all the time, not just with the FIB make arrests.
Paris, tbf many in the media have been highlighting this sorry state of affairs for yonks (e.g. Henry Winter), but precious little attention was paid.
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Well done to who? The FBI? Certainly not the whinging FA. They got rejected for 2018 and ever since they haven't stopped crying about it. But no credit can be taken for uncovering anything.
Not the FA, who are far from blameless. The likes of the Sunday Times.
I'm glad the chickens are finally coming home to roost for FIFA, and I don't begrudge English media outlets for being cock-a-hoop that they've been pointing this out for some time and weren't really listened to.
This clearly grates with you. You'd far rather see a big dose of GIRFUY to the Ingerlish than FIFA get its long-overdue comeuppance.
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While the conduct of FIFA leaves a lot to be desired, I'm still irritated by the moral high-ground chasing arrogance and sheer glee/bitterness (not even sure how they manage to combine those two) of the English FA and media. They invented association football don't you know.
Cretinous remark. Yes, the smugness of the English media is the real issue here.
"Leaves a lot to be desired" is a very kind way of putting what FIFA has been getting up to.
Well done to them for uncovering the trough of corruption and the parlous state that the world game is in as a result.
Now hopefully this Qatar nonsense will be killed stone dead and Australia will get 2022 instead.
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What percentage do you think would vote to get out/stay in?
IMO England the only other actual country of the union would vote 30% yes, 70% no.
NI, the north of Ireland despite the demographics changing their are still a good 20 years off from their country uniting as one again. 40% yes, 60% no.
Wales is one of the few places in the world that isn't an independent country that wont even discuss the issue. Pretty sad IMO. That's what happens when Rugby is your lead sport. 18% yes, 72% no.
I would prefer if Scotland where the country that dismantled this disgusting war mongering union of murder but I would take any of the others to do the damage.
No idea re percentages but if Scotland had voted Yes last year I think rUK would not have lasted very long after that. Wales has been constitutionally tied to England for yonks though so, who knows, maybe you'd see a Serbia&Montenegro-type arrangement for a while.
If England went independent it's highly doubtful the other three would stay together as one.
Remove Scotland from the Union and part of NI identity goes I think given historical links. Sure to be knock-on effects.
I think part of the reason the union is always talked about in terms of Sco & Eng is because the post-Union futures of Wales and NI would be too complex to even contemplate.
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Not in country; not registered; not bothered.
If you were in the UK, who would you vote for?
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Save your keyboard time Marky ,he wont get it.This troll is a wannabe academic who posts on a football message board because he thinks it will make him sound like an intellectual.He knows nothing about Scottish politics or Scotland in general ,but likes to hang on to the coat tales of conversations about Scottish art and culture .Whether he fancies men in kilts or just needs to feel wanted i don't know . He is a lonely screwed up individual who hides behind a gated community in Africa .You can tell the real intellectuals or qualified individuals on here .If Wiki didn't exist neither would he.
Don't take my word for it just look at this trolls history on here and see the comments from Scotty regarding this narcissist misogynist.I gave him a put down which made him think better of trolling for a few months but he seems to have crept back.Or maybe he just found it difficult to get away from the mirror for long enough to post.I don't read his posts ,it's pretty easy when you see his avatar to scroll past .And that is probably a wee case study on its own
Donny's been making intelligent, insightful contributions to this board for many, many moons now. You, on the other hand, have been on here about a year and show yourself up time and time again.
Not only is every post you make laced with bitterness, hate and resentment, but you are so biased that you are incapable of looking at anything rationally. We just get this stream of consciousness fanatic goobledygook laced with words that you clearly don't have the first clue of the meaning of.
Take a look at the garbage you trotted out on this thread, for example - how can anyone vote to deny themselves self-determination?
The vote was self-determination, man!Do you even realise that Donny supports independence? The fact he doesn't buy in to much of the propaganda spouted on here by folk like you doesn't make him a "troll", it makes him a voice of reason.
Every time you lock horns with more intelligent posters on this forum, you end up looking foolish, e.g.:
- You don't know what a Chargés d'affaires is
- You don't know the difference between Tanzania and Tasmania
- You think the UK doesn't have a constitution
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I'm happy to say Westminster does not have the consent of the Scottish people.More Scots voted for independence than against it.It does appear that the majority of people currently living in Scotland gave consent to Westminster.But as we all know many of them were fed on a diet of lies and propaganda from people they thought they could trust.
So much for civic nationalism, eh? Let's assume what you say is true about more "Scots" voting for independence than against - so what? The referendum wasn't about Scottishness. It was about the polity called Scotland, and the democratic right of all its inhabitants to self-determine its future. As you know fine well, when I refer to "the Scottish people" I'm talking about everyone who was eligible to vote - "The People of Scotland", if you prefer.
"It does appear" - nice spin!!!
No. It was the Yes case that was based on a tissue of lies - currency union, EU, defence, the NHS, oil, renewables...
The definition of a Scot is someone whose primary national allegiance is felt towards Scotland. That is what you makes a Scot.
Birthplace, nationality of parents, where you grew up are all indicators but none define it. Allegiance covers every imaginable scenario and is flexible enough to deal with weird situations where birth, where you grew up, parents, and all the other indicators fail and / or become confusing.
But you would have to be honest, I would not recommend it as a test for getting a new Scottish passport.
Allegiance is nice. But it's not the same as national identity, An eskimo could wake up tomorrow and decide he feels allegiance to Scotland. And that would be great. But in no real sense could be said to be "Scottish".
Accent is a central element of national identity, I contend (though not the be all and end all). Where you grew up is probably the most important factor.
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I thought BBC had to give parity to different parties or at least proportional parity in their election coverage.
Yesterday - 15 mins of election coverage - no mention of SNP except for one indirect mention by a Plaid Cymru member in a report on Wales.
Today - only 10 mins election coverage - no mention of SNP whatsoever but plenty for Labour /Tory/Lib Dem/UKIP.
Maybe they think by ignoring SNP completely that they will go away. Surely contravening broadcasting rules on pre-election coverage.
Do you not live in England? Therefore you can't vote SNP anyway.
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This endless focus on the 'how' of 911 only serves to deflect from the more important questions of the 'who' and then the 'why'.
Look at what has been done since. Look at the string of countries attacked and reduced to ruin and chaos. This is what 911 was for, to enable all of this.
Israel, most likely.
You can boil 911 down to LIHOP or MIHOP.
I think 9/11 could conceivably be a LIHOP event. I think the attacks on New York could have been "waved through" with the government firing a missile at the Pentagon for good measure, and to bring an uncooperative/anti-Bush DoD on board. The fact that the PNAC's "second Pearl Harbour" occurred less than nine months after their front man won the presidency, and immediately led to war against a country that had no involvement in the attacks, but had been on the PNAC's hit list, seems remarkable to me.
But I don't believe that a crew of potentially hundreds of demolition men could have been co-opted and then kept perfectly silent for the next 14 years, or murdered without anybody noticing. That is not believable to me. It completely fails the common sense test.
Seems quite obvious to me that if you fly a plane into a building at top speed then it stands a good chance of falling down. But a lot of people swear blind that nothing could be more preposterous!
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You mean your not Scott Hastings then. Damm i've been misinformed.Your right though i have been taken in
I genuinely don't understand your post though Westminster still runs our country.We don't have the powers that normal nations do for income generation or collection.England is a foreign country to me ,as is France and Germany.Many democratic countries do have two houses,but it is a hangover from history and has no place in our own modern meritocratic society ,especially in the political circumstances we find ourselves in.Just no reason for a huge expense when people are having miserable lives with foodbanks etc IMO.
Also, every advanced country has foodbanks.
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I genuinely don't understand your post though Westminster still runs our country.We don't have the powers that normal nations do for income generation or collection.England is a foreign country to me ,as is France and Germany.Many democratic countries do have two houses,but it is a hangover from history and has no place in our own modern meritocratic society ,especially in the political circumstances we find ourselves in.Just no reason for a huge expense when people are having miserable lives with foodbanks etc IMO.
Westminster has the popular consent of the Scottish people. I'm British - I don't consider the English to be foreign (much more culturally and linguistically in common with them than the French and Germans anyway) nor would I wish them to be.
I'm in favour of an appointed rather than an elected Lords for the same reason that I tentatively support the monarchy. The theory doesn't particularly sit well with me but if we scrap them then the vacuum will inevitably be filled by grasping, corrupt politicians. This will only make the system worse.
If the best and wisest minds in the lands are required to become career politicians in order to sit in the legislature (which is where we should want them, if we know what's good for us as a society) then obviously most of them will say "no thanks" and we will be left with the corrupt, mediocre party political hacks who are only in it for themselves.
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And this coming from the man who thinks his own countrymen/women running his own country would be "calamitous".Ridiculous Eh ?Nice to see you have a friend though.Nice but dim meets fake socialist...Ah i see the House of Lords connection now
Don't be absurd, my own countrymen and women are running my country. You've been utterly taken in by my username I see. I chose it pretty much at random and haven't ever been to a public school.
Re the Lords, I'm not really against a non-elected house per se (although the hereditary principle is a bit antiquated, admittedly) if it could be filled by people with genuine expertise who don't wish to sully themselves in electoral politics. There's something rather tautological in having two elected assemblies, unless you can constitutionally keep their terms of reference separate.
Star Wars: The Force Awakens
in Anything Goes - Other topics not covered elsewhere
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While I wouldn't say I hate Star Wars, I'm certainly on the "casual fan" end of the spectrum.
Anyone else a bit weary of endless Star Wars memes (a picture of a bass pedal with DV's fave on it and the legend "I find your lack of bass disturbing", a dog done up like a Wookie, etc etc.), every time a new planet or asteroid is discovered a tenuous link made that it looks like the Death Star (no, it really doesn't).
This hysteria isn't just the because the films are coming out either - in recent years with the rise of social media it seems as if you can't get away from it - May the 4th be with you - as if we need a Star Wars day when it's all Star Wars, all the time anyway.
Don't get me wrong, it's great for the kids and I'm sure the new film will be very good, but it's just non-stop. I also find adult Star Wars obsessives a tad peculiar and the Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones were utter, utter pash. Didn't even bother with the third one. Can't even remember the title without looking it up.