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  1. So if a gay guy, who you barely know, said exactly the same to you in an important meeting at work in front of all of your colleagues, your boss and customers, you'd be fine with it?

    A meeting at work? .... everyone is changing the goal posts to make their point..... it wasn't like that!

    To answer the question though, I'd laugh it off..... and get on with the rest of my life.... without issue!

  2. Depends on the context, but yes, in some circumstances that would be inappropriate. If it doesn't seem that way, it probably says something about our own prejudices because if the roles were reversed, it's perfectly possible for women to feel sexually harassed in the workplace. Just because it happened in Tesco or by a woman, doesn't make it acceptable. As I said, the context, the audience, what was said is all relevant.

    Gayle did it in the most inappropriate way, at the most inappropriate moment. Trying to water it down by some vague incident in your local Tesco doesn't really do it justice.

    Sorry.... but all you are doing is giving people a right to play a victim card if and when it suits.....

    Nothing nasty happened in the interview, I'm sure she was taken aback, maybe embarrassed and unsure what to do say, but, often, that's the case in a situation were someone asks another out!

    You take a chance, you live with the consequences. .... I'm sure he regrets it now.

  3. He doesnt employ her, so that makes it appropriate? What if I was in a customer meeting, where I propositioned a female client in front of everyone? It's not a business meeting, that was just an analogy to make a point. The underlining point is the same. It was her workplace, she was doing her job and he looked upon her as fair game rather than his equal.

    The defence of Gayle is becoming more ridiculous. What is it about the environment and the roles of both that make this not a working environment and two professionals?

    So, going by your thought process, a young woman who works in Tesco, who fancies a male co worker and asks him out in front of other workers would be....

    Looking at him as fair game and not her equal?

  4. I'm pretty sure sexual harrassment will be much like bullying in that there is no hard and fast definition, but it is how the person on the end of it (so to speak) perceives it. So if the person believes they are being sexually harrassed then it has to be taken seriously.

    If a manager came in to my office and said something like this to one of my staff that he or she had never met before I wouldn't automatically go to HR, but judge how the person had taken it (one person's sexual harrassment is another person's jokey fliration) - did they feel sexually harrassed? If so, I'd be right on the phone to HR. It isn't political correctness - it's ensuring that this type of out-dated alpha male workplace mentality is slowly but surely stopped.

    Edit: Which is pretty much what Reekie says above.

    Again.... it has to be judged on what it was, not different circumstances.

  5. If I propositioned a female employee in a business meeting, I'd be on a disciplinary and in danger of losing my job. It's wrong on so many levels, it's remarkable anyone would defend it or play it down. It absolutely speaks of the guys attitude to a fellow professional that he would make such comments in the workplace. That's effectively what it is.

    He doesn't employ her.... she is not a work colleague and it is not a business meeting.....

    You're changing the reality to make a point?

  6. Bollocks, it's spot on. Gayle was on a power trip and enjoyed embarrassing the lass. Just about any bloke should be able to recognize that as we all feel the potential to some extent. The difference is that most of us are aware that our culture has evolved to the extent that such behaviour is unacceptable. Like Clarkson lamping a lacky or Grey and Keys taking the piss out of a female linesman, Gayle feels his position of dominance places him above the cultural norms.

    That's some mindset you have Donny......

    Complete nonsense and Not unsurprising in a society were people seek out mock outrage!

  7. Which is why I said suspect :blink:

    "To see your eyes for the first time is nice. Hopefully we can have a drink afterwards. Don't blush baby," he said

    I think that's creepy and inappropriate

    That's why I mentioned it. .... you don't know.....

    Some folk are more delicate than others..... that's just the way of the world, nothing he said would raise an eyebrow with me, there is no issue in my opinion!

    Just, The Great Offended going out of their way to be offended!

  8. Get over it? Are you a child?

    That may be the case but doesn't make it right, and as pointed out this was live on tv. It's inappropriate and I suspect Gayle knew this.

    Inappropriate is different to calling the guy a creep. ...

    What you suspect is far from fact! Fact!

    Oh and.... it doesn't make it wrong either. ....

    Plenty do it with no panty pissing from either party involved

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