DaveyDenoon Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 On 05/10/2016 at 6:38 AM, Batzek-osemba said: One would think the Euro 2016 fiasco would have made the big bosses to rethink about the direction football is heading to? I think football in europe is at its peak and people could feel oversarturated soon. Maybe wise to break european dominance and give others a chance..who knows. I am just bored by matches everyday (round the clock) and this blown up "product". The old championsleague and uefa cup with one televised match every other week and tough WC with Highlights from day one were much more appealing to me in the past. In what way was Euro 2016 a fiasco? It may not go down in history as an all-time classic tournament (unless you're Welsh or Icelandic maybe) but it was a long way from being a fiasco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 It's 9 years away, so that means 2 failed world cups before we fail to qualify for the expanded one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 The penalty shoot out to avoid team stitching up results won't always work. Some games the last last two teams playing will only need a draw to both go through and they will be happy with that. Or with only 2 games one team could lose and go though as long as they aren't hammered in the last game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckielugger Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Well 48 teams is clearly better for us than 32....although its 16 instead of 13 as just pointed out...think there are too many in UEFA to have 8 qualifying groups of 6 so maybe it will be 9 groups, winners qualify...then maybe best 5 runners-up too with other 4 runners-up playing off for final two spots...as it stands though we are struggling to get to 4th place in groups!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckielugger Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I do find the curent UEFA federations a bit out dated....it would make more sense to combine north africa and the middle east for example into a new grouping...and Mexico and USA do completely dwarf all the carribean teams...also why are surinam, french Guyana and British Guyana and trinidad not in south America groups? Or even on it all in 2 of those cases i think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 1 hour ago, iainmac1 said: The penalty shoot out to avoid team stitching up results won't always work. Some games the last last two teams playing will only need a draw to both go through and they will be happy with that. You can't play for a draw if it's going to penalties though. Goal difference is going to be massively important with no draws and I guess it's do or die from the off so no more cagey opening games... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Should have went with 8 groups of 5. 2 qualify for round of 16. Lowest ranked team going in sits out the final group matchday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) ... Edited January 11, 2017 by scoobydoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 you know it is a shite idea when Regan calls it positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz1982 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Surely the North and South American countries now have to be grouped together. Mexico and USA already effectively have a bye to qualify for each tournament. New Zealand also together with every other country in Oceania should also by lumped into the Asian qualifying section. World qualifying groups would resolve the issue although that would be extremely difficult and would mean the entire football calendar would have to be synchronized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiefaetheferry Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Viewing figures will dictate that USA and Mexico will stay as stick-ons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I dunno why we are even bothered about this. They could expand it to 64 teams and Scotland still wouldn't qualify for at least another 50 years. By which time it will have changed again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz1982 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 To be honest, what is the point in merely qualifying unless the aim is to win it outright! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Jim Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Apart from the 3 additional UEFA teams, anyone got the breakdown the other confederations are allocated? If Australia can move to Asia, surely we can join CONCACAF. We'd get beat again by Costa Rica mind you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckielugger Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 As this decision means knockout rounds of 32 onwards...they might as well go to 64 teams and have 16 groups of 4...maybe it could be held in 2 or 4 countries....even the 48 team format is going to be hard for all but a few countries to stage... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, buckielugger said: As this decision means knockout rounds of 32 onwards...they might as well go to 64 teams and have 16 groups of 4... Would be a 128 match tournament though, that's over half a Scottish Premiership season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 On Tue Jan 10 2017 at 10:12 PM, Toepoke said: You can't play for a draw if it's going to penalties though. Goal difference is going to be massively important with no draws and I guess it's do or die from the off so no more cagey opening games... So it's 3 points or 0 points? Thought the draw would still give you a point and the penalty shoot out was for a bonus point or 2. It could still leave the scenario that a team could still lose by a goal or 2 and both would progress still. One team could have the 1-0 lead that they are both happy with that would see both progress then play out 85 mins of keep ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 1 hour ago, buckielugger said: As this decision means knockout rounds of 32 onwards...they might as well go to 64 teams and have 16 groups of 4...maybe it could be held in 2 or 4 countries....even the 48 team format is going to be hard for all but a few countries to stage... Would have preferred 12 groups of 4 with top 2 and best 8 3rd place teams progressing to a round of 32. Would have only meant 1 extra game for some teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASCO Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 48 teams is a load of pish, but not as big a load of pish as so many best 3rd placed teams from ........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellyman Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 By the time this come's round, International football will be finished as we know it , with the integration of players into various countries becoming easier [basically some guy takes a shite at Prestwick] then being chosen to play for Scotland as he stayed longer than 5 minutes, you lose the identity of a Scottish player You now have the Chinese spending the millions of Dollars they have acquired over the years and various world players getting paid millions , it will not be in the Chinese mentality to release the players they "own" to international games. The standard and quality of football has declined over the years, especially at international level , due to changing of the rules and the amount of money pumped into it , the passion and commitment has gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Fifa - "this is not about money" why bother mentioning the additional £1,000,000,000? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASCO Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Just noticed that the Asian Championship, to be played in UAE in 2019 has expanded from 16 to 24 teams, with, you've guessed it, 6 groups of 4 teams, wth 4 best 3rd placed teams going through. Uuuggh!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reevesy Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 On 10/01/2017 at 1:37 PM, DaveyDenoon said: In what way was Euro 2016 a fiasco? It may not go down in history as an all-time classic tournament (unless you're Welsh or Icelandic maybe) but it was a long way from being a fiasco. The group stages were a complete borefest. All those games to get rid of 8 teams was just daft. Teams playing their final game not knowing if they're through or not is ridculous also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 3 hours ago, Reevesy said: Teams playing their final game not knowing if they're through or not is ridculous also. Eh? what a bizarre statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 3 hours ago, Reevesy said: Teams playing their final game not knowing if they're through or not is ridculous also. First round, 2 x draws, 2nd round, 2 x draws, why is that ridiculous? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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