This Weekends Games

[Guest BlueGaz]

2 minutes ago, theweestevie said:

 

Sadly I don't see us changing formation.

 

I agree with almost everything you said.  But he is going to have to change things.  I admire what he is trying to do, but in order to play that style / formation you have to have the personnel to be able to achieve it.  We haven't at the moment.  The manager is responsible for the players we have at the moment, and if they cannot produce the results from the style you want, you have to take responsibility and work with what you have.  I said before, we were spoilt last year due to the gulf in quality, but this year is a major step up and we have to adapt to that and do it soon.

[Guest BlueGaz]

Could it be that Warburton was indirectly lured into a false sense of the quality in the SPL, last year?  If his knowledge of the scottish game for example, was very low, he watched a relatively bad celtic team win the league.  could that have made him think that was going to be the standard this year again?

[Parklife]

5 minutes ago, BlueGaz said:

Could it be that Warburton was indirectly lured into a false sense of the quality in the SPL, last year?  If his knowledge of the scottish game for example, was very low, he watched a relatively bad celtic team win the league.  could that have made him think that was going to be the standard this year again?

Possibly. He does seem to think that the English Championship is the best league on the planet and that every player in it is fantastic. Probably why he has an overpaid right back who can't defend, a 37 year CB who can't run, a egomaniac midfielder who's suspended and a battering ram striker who can trap a ball further than i can kick it. 

He could have tried to sign Johnny Hayes, Adam Rooney & Shay Logan for what he spent on Garner.  

[Spark]

Any truth that Garner was only signed because Waghorn was supposed to be going to Bristol City before they pulled out of the deal, leaving Sevco with the pair of them?

[Fairbairn]

27 minutes ago, Spark said:

Any truth that Garner was only signed because Waghorn was supposed to be going to Bristol City before they pulled out of the deal, leaving Sevco with the pair of them?

Probably not.

[beardy]

i'm not sure what Rangers fans expect from this squad.

The signings they are making are just lower English League players that established teams like ourselves, County, Aberdeen etc have been signing for the last few years.

If these guys were truly standouts in the English Lower leagues they wouldn't be coming to Scotland.

The step up to Premier League was never going to be bridged easily signing a couple of veterans. To underestimate the jump in quality is just unprofessional.

The media is guilty of talking up Rangers,  their record in the Championship was worse than Hearts and only a couple of points better than Ross County and Partick when they went up.

The media talks up their signings like they are superstars. They're the same standard as everyone else is buying. (Except Joe Garner who it appears cost as much as 3 Dembeles )

It would take an exceptional manager to somehow turn these into a title contending team (Not that I think Rangers fans actually expected to compete for the title)

I'm not so sure the former city trader (to give him his full media title) is actually that good a manager.

in 210 minutes of Warburton's tiki-taka they've had 5 shots on target against Celtic, we had that many last week, even Lincoln Red Imps had 4 on target. 

This will be a long season for Rangers because their squad is not actually any better than the rest and their manager is inflexible to the point of being a Deila.

IMHO Warbiola is a poor man's John Hughes (and less successful)

 

 

 

[vanderark14]

Warburton now facing SFA charges

 

[jailender]

That made your day?

[vanderark14]

2 minutes ago, jailender said:

That made your day?

no why would it?

[Parklife]

22 minutes ago, vanderark14 said:

Warburton now facing SFA charges

 

 

20 minutes ago, jailender said:

That made your day?

 

[Stu101]

2 hours ago, jailender said:

That made your day?

[Parklife]

The Vanguard Bears have issued a lovely statement  

Quote

 

Should Sheep Be Shepherded Or Policed? Written by: John McCrae Tuesday, 27th September 2016     It is with no surprise that I read of Rangers fans being arrested during and after the weekend defeat at Pittodrie. I am told by one travelling Rangers supporter that police standing guard over the travelling support stood open mouthed as their colleagues lifted Rangers fans without cause.  Another tells of one zealous policeman shoving a Rangers fan around and treating him 'like scum'. Yet another says that he was pushed and then 'skelped one' simply for trying to move away from the area where some fans were being baited by Scotland's finest. One Rangers fan had the hood on his jacket pulled up, his arms outstretched and held by two policemen, while a fourth had the fan's neck in a stranglehold.  Coins were thrown at Rangers fans, while Aberdeen stewards stood and watched. Most damning, I feel, is this, from another travelling supporter: '100% targeted while Aberdeen supporters were given free rein to provoke. Even the police that go with Rangers said it was a joke.' One man told me 'You can only poke a dog with a stick so many times until it bites back.' Thankfully, some Rangers fans had the foresight to get their phones out and film some incidents. Whatever happened was certainly not helped by television and radio pre match coverage concentrating on the history of the bad blood between fans of the two clubs. Why, even the Joey Barton fiasco was put to one side. What stuck in my throat was the BBC, who have a long history of hatred toward Rangers, holding vox pop interviews with Aberdeen fans but not Rangers fans. One sided journalism yet again. The gist of these 'interviews' was that everything said or done to or about the Ibrox club was fair game. One woman in a red scarf stated it was all just 'football banter'.  Really? Mocking the death of 66 men, a woman and children?  Repeating ad nauseum the lie that the Ibrox club 'died' in 2012? I can't think of one instance, in all my years of watching football any fan of any club slagging Celtic for the Pacific Shelf scenario or Motherwell for going into administration twice in recent years or Airdrie for buying the ghost of Clydebank, simply to survive. There exists video footage of a seat being thrown into the Aberdeen crowd. What has not been said is that the immediate area where the seat flew through the air was totally inhabited by Aberdeen fans. The on-line footage clearly shows it coming from further up among the Aberdeen crowd. Or '¦ perhaps there was a solitary angry Rangers fan in there, who tore the seat from where it was bolted into concrete, lifted it and threw it. If such a fan existed, might I ask why no Aberdeen fan tried to prevent this happening or why, afterwards, they didn't hand out some street justice or even hold him until the police or stewards got to him? Of course, not all Rangers fans are angels. But there is not one club in the land whose fans are 100% clean. Anyone who thinks Rangers fans are arrested more might work out it is that there are more of them to arrest. It is because they travel in greater numbers than fans of Ross County, Raith or Brechin, for example and, as we saw on Sunday, are targeted on the way to a game, on the way in to a ground, during the game and leaving the ground and making their way home. The official attendance for the game was 19,263. Previous games 'attracted' 13,559 (Hearts), 11,049 (Partick) and 11,356 (ICT) in the league, 8,829 (St Johnstone) in the League Cup and 12,570 (Fola Esch), 10,672 (Ventspils) and 17,105 (Maribor) in European competition. Aberdeen's average home attendance this year is 13,050. Their ground holds 20,866. Despite the glamour of European ties, it seems to me that, even this early in the season, there is only one show in town. I have a simple remedy. I say again that no Rangers fan should give the blue pound to any SPFL club, remember, they all tried to put us out of business, given that Milne, along with Lawwell, Petrie and Thompson were the ringleaders in the attempt to execute us before the trial, we should simply deny them our money. Don't give me the line about the team need our support. It is more important that we stop funding clubs that hate us.  Given that we took around 1,800 to a game where we were charged £25, we could have, by boycotting them, denied them £45,000 gate money plus whatever we spent on programmes and pies (presumably mutton). Add to that any money spent in shops, chippies, pubs and hotels which, is stopped, might even have local businesses hurting and complaining to the local Chamber of Commerce, who might take it to the Council, who might take it to the football club. Meantime, until we next have to travel there, I trust the police will spend time studying footage of both sets of fans and go lift some sheep fans. It won't happen, I know. After all, how many Hibernian fans, out of the maybe 8,000 '“ 10,000 that invaded the park have been arrested and taken to court by comparison to the couple of hundred Rangers fans that had had enough of the taunts and seeing their players and management team being assaulted? One Scotland, one Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications (Scotland) Bill yet two sets of rules for football fans whenever Rangers play.  Don't shepherd the sheep, police them!

 

[Spark]

I love the way these bams talk about Pacific Shelf or Motherwell going into administration like it's even remotely similar to their club being liquidated and dying.

Get it up the bigoted pricks

Edited September 29, 2016 by Spark

[sbcmfc]

When was the 2nd time Motherwell went into administration, I missed that.

Load of rubbish as ysyal from that mob, whoever they are.

If they think they are victimised by the police (as well as the BBC and everyone else) they should try going in a crowd of 300 and standing up.

[vanderark14]

"Given that we took around 1,800 to a game where we were charged £25, we could have, by boycotting them, denied them £45,000 gate money plus whatever we spent on programmes and pies (presumably mutton). Add to that any money spent in shops, chippies, pubs and hotels which, is stopped, might even have local businesses hurting and complaining to the local Chamber of Commerce, who might take it to the Council, who might take it to the football club. "

 

my personal favourite part

we should all be grateful for the blue £

 

[sbcmfc]

12 minutes ago, vanderark14 said:

"Given that we took around 1,800 to a game where we were charged £25, we could have, by boycotting them, denied them £45,000 gate money plus whatever we spent on programmes and pies (presumably mutton). Add to that any money spent in shops, chippies, pubs and hotels which, is stopped, might even have local businesses hurting and complaining to the local Chamber of Commerce, who might take it to the Council, who might take it to the football club. "

 

my personal favourite part

we should all be grateful for the blue £

 

I'd presume the downturn in the oil industry was as a direct result of the lack of blue pounds flowing into Aberdeen over the last 5 years.

[vanderark14]

Just now, sbcmfc said:

I'd presume the downturn in the oil industry was as a direct result of the lack of blue pounds flowing into Aberdeen over the last 5 years.

I don't know how the City of Aberdeen has coped with out them. People have been heading to the food banks asking the volunteers when ra peepil will return to save them

[dandydunn]

1 hour ago, Parklife said:

The Vanguard Bears have issued a lovely statement  

Beautiful. 

I believe Aberdeen gave out the official away attendance as 1903,not 1800 or so.

[sbcmfc]

1 hour ago, dandydunn said:

Beautiful. 

I believe Aberdeen gave out the official away attendance as 1903,not 1800 or so.

Imagine the uproar if they'd added another 109 to that!!!!

[dandydunn]

37 minutes ago, sbcmfc said:

Imagine the uproar if they'd added another 109 to that!!!!

It would've been worth it

[Rossy]

I thought the Vanguard Bears were all over in Belfast, getting involved with some bigoted anti-Catholic protest.

I saw their banner on the TV news along with all the other Butcher's Aprons from various sectarian f*ckwits.

[Tartan_Don]

3 hours ago, vanderark14 said:

"Given that we took around 1,800 to a game where we were charged £25, we could have, by boycotting them, denied them £45,000 gate money plus whatever we spent on programmes and pies (presumably mutton). Add to that any money spent in shops, chippies, pubs and hotels which, is stopped, might even have local businesses hurting and complaining to the local Chamber of Commerce, who might take it to the Council, who might take it to the football club. "

 

my personal favourite part

we should all be grateful for the blue £

 

That's got tae be a joke....canae believe they are that deluded they honestly believe they are oor saviours 

Then again....

[Exglasgowasc]

Got to love the Vanguard Bears.

Given that the crowd for Sunday was 19263 and 1800 were sevco bigots my maths tells me that there were 17463 Aberdeen fans there. 17105 was the crowd at the Maribor game, take away the 22 Maribor fans means there were 17083 Dons fans there. By my calculations then only 380 more Aberdeen fans turned up to watch "the rangers". 

[Brassrubber]

Heart of Midlothian close the gap on Celtic with first win at Motherwell in 6 years well played The Glorious 

[sbcmfc]

How bad is Craig Samson.