Indy Ref 2

[aaid 615]

5 minutes ago, kumnio said:

EU residents didnt get a vote in this referendum.

The thread's about an Indyref ?.

 

[Scunnered 12]

12 minutes ago, TDYER63 said:

Sorry , i didn't read that properly, 4 hours clothes shopping with my 20yr old daughter is almost throwing me over the edge.  I was referring to the 62% , not the number of eu nationals. 

I'll take her next time.  You deserve a rest!

[TDYER63 685]

36 minutes ago, Scunnered said:

I'll take her next time.  You deserve a rest!

? , hell would freeze over before you would step foot in Urban Outfitters or Frasers. Nasty capitalist retailers. ?

[flumax 3]

2 hours ago, aaid said:

I've heard the figure of 170,000 mentioned.  No idea how accurate that is though. 

 135k EU nationals in Scotland, 2011 census http://www.migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/briefings/scotland-census-profile

[flumax 3]

340 k non UK born. And 57% voted NO http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/independence-referendum-figures-revealed-majority-5408163#706GI3lTLYKjG1cm.97

[Scunnered 12]

1 hour ago, TDYER63 said:

? , hell would freeze over before you would step foot in Urban Outfitters or Frasers. Nasty capitalist retailers. ?

I'll check if they pay the living wage, at least then I could make an exception... For your daughter

[TDYER63 685]

1 hour ago, Scunnered said:

I'll check if they pay the living wage, at least then I could make an exception... For your daughter

Let me rephrase that. 

Hell would freeze over before i would let you take my daughter shopping ?

[Boynze 4]

1 hour ago, Scunnered said:

I'll check if they pay the living wage, at least then I could make an exception... For your daughter

Good god could you be more rapey?

[Scunnered 12]

29 minutes ago, Boynze said:

Good god could you be more rapey?

Is that a challenge?

[Boynze 4]

1 minute ago, Scunnered said:

Is that a challenge?

Not really no, but I'm sure you have a few in you, or perhaps behind you.

[TDYER63 685]

26 minutes ago, Boynze said:

Good god could you be more rapey?

He's not being serious. He would never have a mother in law who is in the SNP.

I would be more worried for Marky and Renfrew Blue. He is pimping himself to them on another thread ?. 

[iainmac1 12]

[Scunnered 12]

7 minutes ago, iainmac1 said:

If that's a polling company and not a "poll"...  That's quite something.

Edited June 25, 2016 by Scunnered

[Scunnered 12]

It does put Sturgeon in the awkward position were the vocal supporters will be demanding a referendum immediately. 

[iainmac1 12]

6 minutes ago, Scunnered said:

If that's a polling company and not a "poll"...  That's quite something.

I have no idea. Not able to read the actual story. Will have a look tomorrow morning

[Scunnered 12]

Just now, iainmac1 said:

I have no idea. Not able to read the actual story. Will have a look tomorrow morning

I was hearing whispers of a Survation poll earlier with a Yes lead.  Could be that.  Ipsos will be due too as I got polled yesterday by them.

[iainmac1 12]

Supposedly there is another poll out tonight that isn't great. Hope that is wrong!

[flumax 3]

http://Take a look at @newsundayherald's Tweet: https://twitter.com/newsundayherald/status/746820889774333957?s=09

 

 

Why does that just link back to the tamb?? 

 

80% yes Sunday herald (online) poll... Means nothing of course 

Edited June 25, 2016 by flumax

[Orraloon 615]

6 hours ago, aaid said:

I've heard the figure of 170,000 mentioned.  No idea how accurate that is though. 

 

4 hours ago, flumax said:

 135k EU nationals in Scotland, 2011 census http://www.migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/briefings/scotland-census-profile

I think those numbers are in the right ballpark. If you look at it in a different way. Almost exactly 4.0 million were registered to vote in the EU referendum and 4.3 million were registered to vote in the independence referendum. That number includes about 150,000 16 and 17 year olds. 

So, if the EU national vote was to go from 75% "NO" to 75% "YES" then the actual difference would be about 75,000 votes. Not a huge amount but every little helps.

 

[Toepoke 546]

1 hour ago, iainmac1 said:

I have no idea. Not able to read the actual story. Will have a look tomorrow morning

Fill us in on the knickers feature while you're at it cheers

 

[flumax 3]

22 minutes ago, Orraloon said:

 

I think those numbers are in the right ballpark. If you look at it in a different way. Almost exactly 4.0 million were registered to vote in the EU referendum and 4.3 million were registered to vote in the independence referendum. That number includes about 150,000 16 and 17 year olds. 

So, if the EU national vote was to go from 75% "NO" to 75% "YES" then the actual difference would be about 75,000 votes. Not a huge amount but every little helps.

 

The EU national no vote was 57% (assuming they split In equal measure to other non-ruk nationalities) so approx 75k - 60k.  To get the number you quote added you need 100% yes vote from EUs

[Orraloon 615]

7 minutes ago, flumax said:

The EU national no vote was 57% (assuming they split In equal measure to other non-ruk nationalities) so approx 75k - 60k.  To get the number you quote added you need 100% yes vote from EUs

Ah OK, I didn't know that. I just used a fairly extreme swing of going from 75% NO to 75% YES to emphasise that it is a fairly small number and fairly insignificant in the overall scheme of things.

[flumax 3]

1 minute ago, Orraloon said:

Ah OK, I didn't know that. I just used a fairly extreme swing of going from 75% NO to 75% YES to emphasise that it is a fairly small number and fairly insignificant in the overall scheme of things.

The big swinger is the 300k no voting rUK from 450k. 

Even turning that around wouldn't do it. Focus has to be on indigenous scots. 

....... That or invite 500k europhilic migrants (Lets call them brefugees - everyone loves a portmanteau) from rUK to make Scotland their home. 

[flumax 3]

Scottish Lib Dems back Sturgeon in EU negotiations

 

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2016-06-25/scottish-lib-dems-back-sturgeon-in-eu-negotiations/

 

Just need kez to make her mind up... Grandees meeting tomorrow apparently. And considering all options . 

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/uk-regions/scotland/news/76576/scottish-labour-consider-all-options-amid-second-independence

 

Can't see ruth joining in. 

 

But could see support for independence by parties which gained >75% in holyrood and general elections. 

Edited June 26, 2016 by flumax

[iainmac1 12]

11 minutes ago, flumax said:

Scottish Lib Dems back Sturgeon in EU negotiations

 

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2016-06-25/scottish-lib-dems-back-sturgeon-in-eu-negotiations/

 

Just need kez to make her mind up... Grandees meeting tomorrow apparently. And considering all options . 

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/uk-regions/scotland/news/76576/scottish-labour-consider-all-options-amid-second-independence

 

Can't see ruth joining in. 

 

But could see support for independence by parties which gained >75% in holyrood and general elections. 

Wee Willie Rennie says he backs EU negotiation but not independence. Not sure what he wants exactly.