Scunnered Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I think it'll be Trump v Sanders with Trump probably winning. High turnout would help Sanders though, not Trump. Gonna be a battle between the far right and far left, as we're seeing in several other countries at the moment. Sanders is hardly far left . He's an advocate of private industry. In fact his entire campaign has been built on "the middle class and the working families who produce the wealth of America deserve a fair deal". His opponents... And some on the left in America like to describe him as a democratic socialist, but he's a social democrat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Sanders also voted for every single war, all of them apparently. Trump in comparison opposed (at least some of) them. Yet Bernie is the socialist 'leftie' and Trump the dangerous right wing extremist. I find Bernie a lot more scary than Trump. Clinton in comparison is super pro war and would have the US attacking Iran. It is a great set of choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Sanders also voted for every single war, all of them apparently. You can take the Jew out of... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishcumnock Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Jewellery ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Sanders didn't vote for the Iraq war. Watched a bit on Tuesday and it's certainly very interesting. Lots of ''just wait til Bernie heads to the black/Hispanic states'' - he was 30% behind in New Hampshire a year ago, and up to 5 months ago the same Iowa. I think he may well win or come very close in Nevada, but Clinton will win in South Carolina. 7/4 for Bernie to win in Nevada and the last poll (before New Hampshire) had Clinton 47 Sanders 43 O'Malley 3. A lot of Bernie's ''white liberal'' appeal. Nevada has 75% white overs. Ted Cruz 4/1 to win South Carolina. Over 50% Evangelical voters I've been hearing on podcasts that South Carolina is where it gets ugly. So we'll soon see if the gloves come off and if Trump can keep the heid. Also, will any of the moderators ever ask Trump how? when he comes out with the same about Mexico, China, walls, Japan, stopping drugs, creating jobs. Jeb Bush painting up his fourth place finish -after spending $110 million in N.H- as success. He isn't that bad an outside bet for the nomination. The Republican mainstream party hate Cruz and would even prefer Trump over him, but ultimately the Washington base would want either Bush or Kasich. If, and more like, when, Carson and Kasich drop out - it'll be interesting to see if they back Rubio or Bush. Rubio looks and talks like the clean-cut politician but when you look at his record - barring the 'Gang of eight' - he is not a 'moderate'. Bush at 20/1 could be a good surprise bet after all. Fiorina and Christie are out, and imagine unless he does a Kasich in New Hampshire, Carson will have dropped out by the 24th of February. There's a Democratic debate on CNN tonight starts around 1am, and a Republican one on Sat/Sun (think same time or midnight?) morning for any buffs/late night workers and with the dropouts, it'll be - Bush, Cruz, Kasich, Trump, Carson and Rubio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I was going to quote the relevant part of you post weekevie but that is no longer possible on this mega retarded board. That at must be about the only difference to his voting record v Clinton then. He is an absolute war monger for a leftie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 1 hour ago, weekevie04 said: Sanders didn't vote for the Iraq war. He voted to keep funding it every time though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny's Yard Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 9 hours ago, thplinth said: Sanders also voted for every single war, all of them apparently. Trump in comparison opposed (at least some of) them. Yet Bernie is the socialist 'leftie' and Trump the dangerous right wing extremist. I find Bernie a lot more scary than Trump. Clinton in comparison is super pro war and would have the US attacking Iran. It is a great set of choices. But Trump has never held public office, right? So do you mean that he said he would oppose the wars? Because what he says one day is often very different to what he says the next, mostly dependent on his audience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny's Yard Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 9 hours ago, Scunnered said: Sanders also voted for every single war, all of them apparently. You can take the Jew out of... What is that supposed to mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 2 hours ago, thplinth said: I was going to quote the relevant part of you post weekevie but that is no longer possible on this mega retarded board. 2 hours ago, phart said: He voted to keep funding it every time though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Que Sera Sera Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 11 hours ago, Scunnered said: I think it'll be Trump v Sanders with Trump probably winning. High turnout would help Sanders though, not Trump. Gonna be a battle between the far right and far left, as we're seeing in several other countries at the moment. Sanders is hardly far left :blink:. He's an advocate of private industry. In fact his entire campaign has been built on "the middle class and the working families who produce the wealth of America deserve a fair deal". His opponents... And some on the left in America like to describe him as a democratic socialist, but he's a social democrat. He said in his speech the other night that the US cannot continue to be the World's policeman. He's also talking about taxing the rich at a high rate. These things make him far left by American standards. Even the word socilaist by itself is further left in America than it is in Europe. 11 hours ago, thplinth said: Sanders also voted for every single war, all of them apparently. Trump in comparison opposed (at least some of) them. Yet Bernie is the socialist 'leftie' and Trump the dangerous right wing extremist. I find Bernie a lot more scary than Trump. Clinton in comparison is super pro war and would have the US attacking Iran. It is a great set of choices. Trump is much scarier than anybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Sanders is a total war-monger voted on everything bar the iraq war (republican war at the time, they all voted to keep funding it when Obama was in power). Orraloon you're missing out the actual edited post, so you've not demonstrated anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 6 minutes ago, phart said: Sanders is a total war-monger voted on everything bar the iraq war (republican war at the time, they all voted to keep funding it when Obama was in power). Orraloon you're missing out the actual edited post, so you've not demonstrated anything. I'm jist practising. Geeza chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 19 minutes ago, Orraloon said: I'm jist practising. Geeza chance. I was just checking all these notifications have been turned off now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I got a pop up down at the bottom left telling me some fecker had posted something. WTF. This is a horrifying breach of trust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 On 11/02/2016 at 6:04 PM, Denny's Yard said: What is that supposed to mean? Think it's a racist slur without the bottle to carry it through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 The worst democrate is probably better than the best republican. Feels weird saying that given how terrible Clinton is likely to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 On 11/02/2016 at 8:35 AM, thplinth said: Sanders also voted for every single war, all of them apparently. Trump in comparison opposed (at least some of) them. Yet Bernie is the socialist 'leftie' and Trump the dangerous right wing extremist. I find Bernie a lot more scary than Trump. Clinton in comparison is super pro war and would have the US attacking Iran. It is a great set of choices. Obviously a CO when it was his turn to go to Vietnam ofc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) On 2/13/2016 at 0:49 PM, phart said: Obviously a CO when it was his turn to go to Vietnam ofc. Oooohh was he? Interesting. My presidential prediction is logged. The Donald will be prez. if Spurs also win the league and Rangers go bankrupt (twice)...I am setting up an ashram. Edited February 15, 2016 by thplinth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 12 hours ago, thplinth said: Oooohh was he? Interesting. My presidential prediction is logged. The Donald will be prez. if Spurs also win the league and Rangers go bankrupt (twice)...I am setting up an ashram. http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/259812-in-new-shock-poll-sanders-has-landslides-over-both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 (edited) I don't know the exact reason why but I've read Clinton has it sown up. Some typical yank pish whereby super delegates get their votes more heavily weighted or something... God it bores the arse off me. Big song and dance about what a great democracy it is and like their tax code it is just a complete mess of idiotic complexity with the net outcome only the poor pay taxes and only the rich get to be president. Feckin madhouse. Edited February 16, 2016 by thplinth spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thplinth Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 On 2/11/2016 at 9:36 AM, Scunnered said: You can take the Jew out of... Is that you Mel? Fair enuff. But was communism (or the original Bolsheviks) not 80-90% Jewish (according to numerous sources)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindimoo Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 We're seriously discussing if Trump is a contender? These people voted for George W back in the day ffs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Que Sera Sera Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 An uncanny resemblance. Only in America could a cartoon character be President. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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