Is Donald Trump's Campaign A Spoof?

[ParisInAKilt]

2 minutes ago, aaid said:

Amusing, but I'm guessing by the fact he's addressed as Mr Donald Trump rather than President Trump and the seal on the lectern is the Republican Party rather than the Presidential one, this is an old clip from the campaign rather than something new, so I'm not sure what the point here is supposed to be.

Distraction from all the horrible stuff his party is doing away from the media spotlight probably.

[aaid]

4 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said:

Distraction from all the horrible stuff his party is doing away from the media spotlight probably.

Not everything is part of some big conspiracy you know.    It's one of the things that really winds me up about social media is people sharing some news story or whatever from two years ago and trying to pretend like its something that's just happened.  I don't understand why people do it - well I kind of do understand but I think its counter productive.   I mean, I'm not sure why Trump being a bit of a fanny two years ago means a nuclear armageddon is more or less likely today,

Edited November 25, 2018 by aaid

[Ally Bongo]

It was from 2015 ..during the campaign ..which i thought suitable for "Is Donald Trump's campaign a spoof"

Apologies

 

[aaid]

1 minute ago, Ally Bongo said:

It was from 2015 ..during the campaign ..which i thought suitable for "Is Donald Trump's campaign a spoof"

Apologies

 

Wasn't so much having a go at you but the person who tweeted this.

[ParisInAKilt]

18 minutes ago, aaid said:

Not everything is part of some big conspiracy you know.    It's one of the things that really winds me up about social media is people sharing some news story or whatever from two years ago and trying to pretend like its something that's just happened.  I don't understand why people do it - well I kind of do understand but I think its counter productive.   I mean, I'm not sure why Trump being a bit of a fanny two years ago means a nuclear armageddon is more or less likely today,

Not everything but Trump is not the fool he’s made out to be and neither is his party. 

[thplinth]

So an unsourced (big surprise) clip from 2015 (we are belatedly told) where Trump does not say a single word while some cheesy election campaign singer (see the Simpsons) belts out some lame song. Wow. The fact you think this is bad sort of sums it up.

[Orraloon]

8 hours ago, Ally Bongo said:

 

How many folk need proof that we are all gonna die?

[phart]

6 hours ago, aaid said:

Not everything is part of some big conspiracy you know.    It's one of the things that really winds me up about social media is people sharing some news story or whatever from two years ago and trying to pretend like its something that's just happened.  I don't understand why people do it - well I kind of do understand but I think its counter productive.   I mean, I'm not sure why Trump being a bit of a fanny two years ago means a nuclear armageddon is more or less likely today,

 

Distracting isn't a Conspiracy. That's two or more folk getting together to do something illegal that's all a conspiracy is.

Thats just political PR.

[phart]

Luke Harding wrote the original piece and he is a security asset who works for the guardian. Pretty interesting, I see Skirpal handler is in their too.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-27/manafort-met-secret-julian-assange-ecuadorian-embassy-report

Some nice stealth edits.

see Craig Muraay has already written about it, slow on the pick up with this one.

 

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/11/assange-never-met-manafort-luke-harding-and-the-guardian-publish-still-more-blatant-mi6-lies/

Edited December 6, 2018 by phart

[phart]

This show is alright as well. Seems the best political commentary comes from comics in the US.

 

[thplinth]

Ann Coulter was one of the people who predicted early on that Trump would win (to much ridicule at the time). She also wrote a book called (IIRC) "In Trump We Trust" not that long ago.

Apparently after she posted this latest article to her website the White House unfollowed her twitter account. 

 

Quote

 

GUTLESS PRESIDENT IN WALL-LESS COUNTRY
December 19, 2018

If you were elected president after decades of politicians doing nothing about the millions of illegals pouring into our country every year, committing crimes, dealing drugs, driving drunk, molesting children and killing Americans like Kate Steinle, and your central campaign promise -- repeated every day -- was to build a wall, wouldn't you have spent the entirety of your transition period working on getting it done? 

Wouldn't you have been building prototypes, developing relationships with key congressional allies and talking to military leaders about using the Seabees or the Army Corps of Engineers to build the wall? 

Wouldn't you skip the inauguration and take the oath of office in San Diego so you could get started on supervising wall construction immediately after putting your hand on the Bible and being sworn in as the leader of the free world? 

You would if you meant it. 

Well, Donald Trump didn't do that. 

OK, sure he could have taken the oath in D.C., gone to a few balls, then started the wall on day two of his presidency. But he didn't do that either. 

Maybe I'm a literalist. A zealot. When people kept telling me to be patient -- the wall is coming! -- I nursed a private hope that I was wrong, and they were right. 

It is now crystal clear that one of two things is true: Either Trump never intended to build the wall and was scamming voters all along, or he has no idea how to get it done and zero interest in finding out. 

He sacrifices every opportunity to make the wall happen. 

For two years, Trump pretended to believe the president of the United States needs express authorization from Congress to defend the nation's borders and blamed the Republican majority for not "funding" the wall. 

In a few weeks, he'll start blaming the Democratic House. 

Last week -- several whole days ago -- Trump said over and over again that he would shut down the government if he didn't get funding for the wall -- the precise thing he claims he needs. "We need border security. The wall is a part of border security," he said. "If we don't have border security, we'll shut down the government."

Trump wore the shutdown over the wall as a badge of honor: "You want to know something? OK, you want to put that on me. I'll take it. You know what I'll say? Yes, if we don't get what we want ... I will shut down the government. Absolutely." 

One week later, The Drudge Report: 

WALL FUNDING OFF TABLE 

In other words, Trump is doing exactly what I feared he would do in the worst conceivable way. He's not building the wall, while making ridiculous promises right up until the second before he folds. 

The Washington Post loves to find the one crazy, trailer park lady who supports Trump because she's had religious ecstasies about him, but most people who voted for him did so with a boatload of qualms. 

The basic factory setting on the perception of Trump is: gigantic douchebag. This is a man who manufactured fake Time magazine covers featuring himself with the headline, "Donald Trump: The 'Apprentice' is a television smash!" so that he could put framed copies of it on the walls of his clubs. 

His business is convincing people with lowbrow taste to give him their money. 

He's a vulgar publicity hound who used to call reporters in a fake voice and pretend to be his own PR agent, "John Miller" or "John Barron," so he could brag that actresses wanted to date him. 

On one "Apprentice" episode, the reward for the winning team was: to see Trump's apartment. Not to eat there or spend the night. They got to see it. "As a little treat," he said, "you're gonna see the nicest apartment in New York City." He added: "I show this apartment to very few people. Presidents, kings ..." 

It's not as if a majority of his voters weren't clear-eyed about what kind of man he is. If anything, Trump's vulgar narcissism made his vow to build a wall more believable. Respectable politicians had made similar promises over the years -- and they always betrayed the voters. Maybe it took a sociopath to ignore elite opinion and keep his word. 

On the basis of his self-interest alone, he must know that if he doesn't build the wall, he has zero chance of being re-elected and a 100 percent chance of being utterly humiliated. 

But when Trump is alone with Ivanka, they seem to agree that the wall has nothing to do with it. The people just love him for who he is! In a country of 320 million people, I'm sure there are some, but I have yet to meet a person who said, Yeah, I don't really care about immigration or trade, I just love his personality! 

What else were we going to do? He was the only one talking sense. Unfortunately, that's all he does: talk. He's not interested in doing anything that would require the tiniest bit of effort. 

In the end, we'll probably find out "wall" was Trump's "safe word" with Stormy Daniels. It's just something he blurts out whenever he's in trouble. 

He's in trouble now. As absurd as the Russia nonsense is, the details about Trump's sleazy associates, the porn star, the Playboy playmate and his seedy business practices leave his supporters feeling queasy, even if he hasn't committed any crimes. 

Instead of joining a fight that will make his most ardent supporters cringe no matter how it comes out, why not choose a battleground where he's guaranteed a win? If Trump used the military to build the wall -- actually build it, not keep telling us he's going to build it -- the Democrats will go mad. 

They'll hold impeachment hearings, file a million lawsuits, produce weeping children reading from phony scripts written by immigrant rights groups -- and Trump will win. The public will support Trump overwhelmingly, and the left will be forced to keep reminding voters why they hate Democrats. 

Instead, what he's doing now absolutely guarantees that the next president will be a Democrat and, given today's Democratic Party, that president will be Kamala Harris. 

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2018-12-19.html#read_more

 

 

[ParisInAKilt]

For an experienced political commentator she seems shocked that a president isn’t doing something they promised to get elected. 

[thplinth]

Coulter is not shocked, she has been increasingly critical about this for a long time but until now she still hoped it would get done. What you see above is not shock but pure ragin and the point she lost faith. She has been pretty accurate about Trump from the start.

I am starting to wonder if Trump is thinking of not running in 2020 or running but losing. His ego is so massive however I am not sure it would allow it. That said if Trump could have foreseen the hurricane of hostility he would have to endure I think he would never have run for president and I am increasingly thinking his wife is not enjoying it much. Serving a full 8 years must seem like a lifetime now. We will see.

[phart]

Least the US are out of Syria now. Pity that's the Kurds about to be fucked over again for like the 4th time.

[ParisInAKilt]

7 hours ago, thplinth said:

Coulter is not shocked, she has been increasingly critical about this for a long time but until now she still hoped it would get done. What you see above is not shock but pure ragin and the point she lost faith. She has been pretty accurate about Trump from the start.

I am starting to wonder if Trump is thinking of not running in 2020 or running but losing. His ego is so massive however I am not sure it would allow it. That said if Trump could have foreseen the hurricane of hostility he would have to endure I think he would never have run for president and I am increasingly thinking his wife is not enjoying it much. Serving a full 8 years must seem like a lifetime now. We will see.

The fact she thought it would happen is pretty funny though. 

[phart]

It makes Coulter look unhinged. If she believes below and still voted from him cause he said he was going to build 3000km wall along the border. Hilary had already voted in the senate to build a fence anyway.

"The basic factory setting on the perception of Trump is: gigantic douchebag. This is a man who manufactured fake Time magazine covers featuring himself with the headline, "Donald Trump: The 'Apprentice' is a television smash!" so that he could put framed copies of it on the walls of his clubs. 

His business is convincing people with lowbrow taste to give him their money. 

He's a vulgar publicity hound who used to call reporters in a fake voice and pretend to be his own PR agent, "John Miller" or "John Barron," so he could brag that actresses wanted to date him. 

On one "Apprentice" episode, the reward for the winning team was: to see Trump's apartment. Not to eat there or spend the night. They got to see it. "As a little treat," he said, "you're gonna see the nicest apartment in New York City." He added: "I show this apartment to very few people. Presidents, kings ..." 

It's not as if a majority of his voters weren't clear-eyed about what kind of man he is. If anything, Trump's vulgar narcissism made his vow to build a wall more believable"

 

[phart]

Trump getting panned for pulling out of Syria, totally destroyed even on Fox and Friends. They are saying by pulling out he is the creator of ISIS.

 

Everything is geared up to promoting war from "both sides" of the MSM.

[thplinth]

22 hours ago, ParisInAKilt said:

The fact she thought it would happen is pretty funny though. 

This was something Trump said over and over at every political rally he has had... "Build the wall. build the wall." I would say it was his central plank. Coulter well knows he is aware of her opinions. She has been increasingly goading him because for her this is the key issue and he chickening out of it. Amazingly I think it (along with a lot of other critics) may have worked as Trump has to some extent un-caved in the last day or two. Coulter knows Trump's electoral market as well if not  better than he does and I think he knows it too. He better get that wall going or he will be in for a tough 2020 campaign. Folk like Coulter were writing books about him last time and now she is twitching for her gun holster. This is a very pivotal time for Donald.

[Mox]

11 minutes ago, phart said:

Trump getting panned for pulling out of Syria, totally destroyed even on Fox and Friends. They are saying by pulling out he is the creator of ISIS.

 

Everything is geared up to promoting war from "both sides" of the MSM.

As you alluded to earlier it's the Kurds who will suffer more than most and not for the first time. The complete abondment of them to Turkish aggression, despite all they have done in fighting ISIS is shameful

[phart]

8 minutes ago, thplinth said:

This was something Trump said over and over at every political rally he has had... "Build the wall. build the wall." I would say it was his central plank. Coulter well knows he is aware of her opinions. She has been increasingly goading him because for her this is the key issue and he chickening out of it. Amazingly I think it (along with a lot of other critics) may have worked as Trump has to some extent un-caved in the last day or two. Coulter knows Trump's electoral market as well if not  better than he does and I think he knows it too. He better get that wall going or he will be in for a tough 2020 campaign. Folk like Coulter were writing books about him last time and now she is twitching for her gun holster. This is a very pivotal time for Donald.

Whoever organised Trumps first campaign was a genius, it might have been Bannon? Either way without them they're fucked anyway. Pulling out of Syria has everyone screeching.

Mind when he bombed Syria and everyone was saying what a good boy he is, you pointed it out as well. Maybe he is thinking well since you're all going at me anyway, fuck it.

[thplinth]

The Kurds are your middle eastern beaten wife who keeps going back for another battering and betrayal. Who is it that keeps fucking them over by the way?

The Syrian army with Russian Air support beat ISIS. The yanks backed them via their proxies.

And yeah I do suspect Trump believed sucking Netanyahoo's tadge would buy him a free pass in the US media for the rest of his political agenda... it didn't. So maybe we will see a trumpesque fuckyou push back.

It is small thing but if he somehow releases the JFK archives it could be sign he has said fuck it. He had the chance to do it already but like so much of his reign he has crapped it at the crucial moment.

I am with Coulter - start slagging the cunt as a way to get him going. His ego is the engine in all of this so start making him believe he is going down a s a failure... That will get that prick running at top revs... trust me.

[phart]

Well when push comes to shove. NATO picks Turkey over Kurds, so they get attacked and we ignore it. We encouraged them to rise up in 1991 against Saddam then abandoned them.

[ParisInAKilt]

2 hours ago, thplinth said:

This was something Trump said over and over at every political rally he has had... "Build the wall. build the wall." I would say it was his central plank. Coulter well knows he is aware of her opinions. She has been increasingly goading him because for her this is the key issue and he chickening out of it. Amazingly I think it (along with a lot of other critics) may have worked as Trump has to some extent un-caved in the last day or two. Coulter knows Trump's electoral market as well if not  better than he does and I think he knows it too. He better get that wall going or he will be in for a tough 2020 campaign. Folk like Coulter were writing books about him last time and now she is twitching for her gun holster. This is a very pivotal time for Donald.

I know he said, it was just his version of Obama’s promise to clean up Wall Street. Even if he meant it, he wouldn’t be allowed to do it. 

[ParisInAKilt]

The US shouldn’t even be in Syria anyway, as they are there against the wishes of the Syrian government and people. I doubt they’ve left either unless their funded mercenaries have left as well (Isis)

[Ally Bongo]

His twitter feed is quite the thing today !