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I was just drafting a reply to that effect :)

I don't think it's that simple; in this part of England you'd definiely hear tor-toyce; tor-tiss or variants would be seen as a bit posh. But thinking about it, you might hear tor-tuss (silent middle 't') around Newcastle. I'm pretty sure you'd get a tor-toyse in Lancashire albeit with a different accent than the more erudite side of the Pennines.

I just showed a couple of people hear a photo & asked & all straight away said tor-toyce.

In my head I think of tortiss as just a bit posh, but that chip on my shoulder might be affecting my hearing.

I checked it out in Durham - where I was driving when I heard the proposal - and they were, as you say, tortuss, with a kind of glottal "t" in the middle. I suppose all we've shown is that Lancashire is correctly part of Scotland.

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Can somebody explain Lerwick v Berwick?

In that Shetland detective thing with Dougie Henshall they pronounced it as Lerrick, as opposed to Ler-wick.

This surprised me as I always thought it was the latter, but I'd be equally as surprised if they had gotten something so fundamentally wrong in their programme research.

Must be a Shetlander on here surely who can confirm.

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