RenfrewBlue Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I dont think any of the Lisbon Lions have actually killed anyone unlike those Black and Tans.All soldiers kill people. It's part of their job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Meh, Celtic fan boo Minutes Silence... It's the same every year. Why did County not have a Poppy on their shirt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 If they disagree with the silence, have another pint in the pub and come in to the ground after it has passed. I'm sure there's a good British Legion Club in Dingwall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I'm sure there's a good British Legion Club in Dingwall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Meh, Celtic fan boo Minutes Silence... It's the same every year. Yeah, most predictable thing of the weekend! Apparently it was only a handful of voices, so progress at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Why did County not have a Poppy on their shirt? Why did Rangers have an English one on theirs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Yeah, most predictable thing of the weekend! Apparently it was only a handful of voices, so progress at least. 5s a handful. The picture showed about a dozen. Tomorrow's chip paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Unfortunately our politicians and media have politicised the issue of remembrance, in an attempt to justify our illegals wars. It's part of the reason i won't wear a poppy. That doesn't detract from what it actually means to me though. If you can't stand in silence for a moment to remember All victims of All wars, then you need to take a long hard look at yourself IMO. As for the pish about Remembrance commemorations making you feel "proud"... WTF?!? What's their to be "proud" about in war and millions people killed needlessly? Fecking numbskulls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donaldo87 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 As for the pish about Remembrance commemorations making you feel "proud"... WTF?!? What's their to be "proud" about in war and millions people killed needlessly? Fecking numbskulls. Aye...had a bit of a go at a mate on Saturday night who said he was "gutted" to miss the commemorations at Ibrox and that the card display looked "class" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Gas Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) Lets not forget that quite a lot of Celtic fans travel from Dublin etc.These fans will remember what the British did to their people who stood in a sports ground and were gunned down. I don't condone what happened yesterday or everyother year but I do understand why it happens.[/quote} I don't believe in that all. You see tricolours all the time at Anfield, Old Trafford and various grounds in England. I've never heard of a minutes silence for remembrance being disrupted down south. Edited November 9, 2015 by Pete Gas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce778 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Unfortunately our politicians and media have politicised the issue of remembrance, in an attempt to justify our illegals wars. It's part of the reason i won't wear a poppy. That doesn't detract from what it actually means to me though. If you can't stand in silence for a moment to remember All victims of All wars, then you need to take a long hard look at yourself IMO. As for the pish about Remembrance commemorations making you feel "proud"... WTF?!? What's their to be "proud" about in war and millions people killed needlessly? Fecking numbskulls. Sometimes war is unfortunately essential. I think there is some pride that Britain and the allies stood up to nazi Germany and there is no denying that remembrance focuses on the two world wars. There was no other choice. I don't think people are taking pride in the fact that millions of people died. It's more that the right thing was done, at least with respect to world war 2, perhaps not for exclusively noble reasons. The world would be a very different place if Britain and its allies had not adopted the stance they did. Is that something that British people should be proud of? Probably. Certainly doesn't merit anyone who feels pride in what Britain did as being labelled a "fecking numbskull". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Sometimes war is unfortunately essential. I think there is some pride that Britain and the allies stood up to nazi Germany and there is no denying that remembrance focuses on the two world wars. There was no other choice. I don't think people are taking pride in the fact that millions of people died. It's more that the right thing was done, at least with respect to world war 2, perhaps not for exclusively noble reasons. The world would be a very different place if Britain and its allies had not adopted the stance they did. Is that something that British people should be proud of? Probably. Certainly doesn't merit anyone who feels pride in what Britain did as being labelled a "fecking numbskull". Maybe they should feel proud on VE Day then and simply remember the horrors of war, the millions dead (including ordinary civilians) and the utter devastation of towns and cities on Remembrance Day? I'm pretty happy with my comments above though and maintain anyone who feels proud about remembrance is a "fecking numbskull". You're, of course, totally entitled to disagree and have a big poppy party with flags and play Rule Britannia at full blast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanJon Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I always thought Remembrance Sunday or Armistice Day was more to do with WW1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanJon Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Be interesting to know how many Billy Britain's from Ibrox on Saturday made it out to church and an official Remembrance service yesterday.I did ftr.Rule Britannia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) Absolutely true Bruce that pride should be felt, but public displays of hubris should be reserved for VE Day or the like. Armistice Day is a solemn occasion. I attended Remembrance events in the past back when most of the crowd could remember the war, and many would have served. Just dignified and reflective silence was observed. No need for military displays or holding cards in the air etc... Edited November 9, 2015 by Toepoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I always thought Remembrance Sunday or Armistice Day was more to do with WW1 It was. Hostilities ended on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month. The poppy flowered on the battlefields in the spring of 1915. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Be interesting to know how many Billy Britain's from Ibrox on Saturday made it out to church and an official Remembrance service yesterday.I did ftr.Rule Britannia. I'd love to know how many have ever been near a Church in their puff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I think it has almost become a political statement to wear a poppy. I wear one, not because I am a Hun ( I'm not), a unionist (definitely not) but because the money goes to ex-servicemen who need it because they have been injured doing their job whether that job was right or wrong. For me all this talk of illegal wars and Bloody Sunday are irrelevant. If you don't want to support it fine, but show a little tolerance and decency, respect those who do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstevie007 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) I think it has almost become a political statement to wear a poppy. I wear one, not because I am a Hun ( I'm not), a unionist (definitely not) but because the money goes to ex-servicemen who need it because they have been injured doing their job whether that job was right or wrong. For me all this talk of illegal wars and Bloody Sunday are irrelevant. If you don't want to support it fine, but show a little tolerance and decency, respect those who do. Far too sensible and reasonable an opinion to be tolerated on here. Expect a hounding shortly Edited November 9, 2015 by redstevie007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cove_Sheep Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I always thought Remembrance Sunday or Armistice Day was more to do with WW1 It used to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Lets not forget that quite a lot of Celtic fans travel from Dublin etc.These fans will remember what the British did to their people who stood in a sports ground and were gunned down. I don't condone what happened yesterday or everyother year but I do understand why it happens. Fuxsake. I had to read this twice, because I didn't believe it the first time. Straight from the 'big excuse book' produced yearly by the sectarian f*ckwits that infest Celtic fan forums. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I think it has almost become a political statement to wear a poppy. I wear one, not because I am a Hun ( I'm not), a unionist (definitely not) but because the money goes to ex-servicemen who need it because they have been injured doing their job whether that job was right or wrong. For me all this talk of illegal wars and Bloody Sunday are irrelevant. If you don't want to support it fine, but show a little tolerance and decency, respect those who do. Agree totally. I don't wear a poppy because it has been politicised. I do however always make donations to the Poppy Scotland collection guys at the supermarket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 There's a difference between choosing to wear a poppy or not...that's people's own choice....and deliberately shouting and singing during a minutes silence. Everyone should respect your right not to wear a poppy, but deliberately disrupting a minutes silence just makes you an ignorant khunt, and allows you no respect at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanJon Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I'd love to know how many have ever been near a Church in their puff. Lets not kid ourselves that this type of event at Ibrox is nothing more than a big getitupyou to the catholics across the city.Both of them ruined the Referendum(in the WoS) and they piss on the graves of dead soldiers with their bigoted football shite.It is unbelievable that in 2015 in Scotland these morons are allowed to get away with their shit without anybody saying boo to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) Every year, every feckin' year now, we get this pish. And it is getting worse as both sides of the 'divide' increasingly play politics with it. When I was younger, most people wore a poppy and remembered those from the community who had died in both wars. In my village the scouts, guides and various others accompanied all of the surviving veterans on the parade to the war memorial in the village. Nobody really questioned it much that I can remember, but then nor did we get the militaristic, flag waving shite that seems to be emerging nowadays and which most of the veterans I've known would have been completely contemptuous of. Back then in any community there were people all round you who would have had first hand memories of what war was really like. Then again if someone didn't wear a poppy I don't think anyone cared much or commented on it, it was a personal thing. If there was such a thing as a minutes silence at football matches then I certainly have no memory of it. Edited November 9, 2015 by Pool Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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