jimi hendrix Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 James mcfadden deserved at least 2 more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robroysboy Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) James mcfadden deserved at least 2 more i blame that speckly ##### Mavis, now director of football at the watery farts Edited September 24, 2015 by Robroysboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 i blame that speckly ##### Mavis, now director of football at the watery farts Why? Didn't Faddy not get injured not long after his last cap and has never got back to form that merits a call up since? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robroysboy Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) Why? Didn't Faddy not get injured not long after his last cap and has never got back to form that merits a call up since? Wasn't how I recall it at all, Mavis labelled him a luxury player and refused to pick him. He was a stubborn fool who begged Barry Ferguson to come out of retirement but refused to make peace with Steven Fletcher until it was too late. Fletcher was an in form striker then, unlike now. Edited September 24, 2015 by Robroysboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Yes he did after the Leichtenstein game, but Faddy got a nasty injury against Liverpool a couple of weeks later that kept him out for the full season and he has not been the same player since, so just failing to see how that is Leveins fault? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robroysboy Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Yes he did after the Leichtenstein game, but Faddy got a nasty injury against Liverpool a couple of weeks later that kept him out for the full season and he has not been the same player since, so just failing to see how that is Leveins fault? Mcfadden himself criticised Mavis for calling him "lazy", agree the injury didn't help but couldn't see levein picking him again anyway due to his head in the sand attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TunnocksTeaCakes Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 John Roberston (Hearts) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 He also suffered because George Graham came in as Arsenal Manager. Charlei Nicholas was the total antithesis of a George Graham footballer. He had 3 pretty poor years at Highbury before Graham turned up as boss though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 jinky 23 caps over 10 years that's no many Willie Henderson only had 29 in the same time period and because of his pace and directness was probably a more effective winger than Johnstone at International level As someone said earlier Johnstone could be hot and cold - thats not a criticism - it applies to all wingers, Henderson and Cooper (in particular) - Some games will suit wingers, some wont Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auchinyell Sox Change Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Paul Dickov , Dougie freedman too many caps Ditto Kenny misser Paul potential Mcstay was a favourite of managers and the press but did very little of note in a time when we had an array of decent midfielders Albiston walked into the team for a few years under Stein ; am not convinced he was that great Dave bowman and Jim Mcinally should never have been near a Scotland shirt Ditto Ian Wilson ( he played on Turkey you know) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 John Roberston (Hearts) Did he get that many games? I watched a game back around 1990 in the Tudor in Killie when Ally McLeod was running it. "He's never an international player" we're Ally's words from behind the bar to describe Robbo at one point.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_B81 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Did he get that many games? I watched a game back around 1990 in the Tudor in Killie when Ally McLeod was running it. "He's never an international player" we're Ally's words from behind the bar to describe Robbo at one point.. 16 caps, three goals. Two of them in his first two caps against Romania and Switzerland. Main reason he got his chance was because Mo Johnston stepped aside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Alan McInally - Thats plenty Should never have been picked against Costa Rica It's the perfect example of Scotland making a complete balls up of things when the easy option was staring right in front of you McCoist and Johnston were at their peak, knew each others game inside out and between them had got us to Italia 90 Every good thing Andy Roxburgh did for Scotland was wiped out by that selection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Liam Bridcutt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robroysboy Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 4 caps, still can't belive he never scored Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Paul Dickov , Dougie freedman too many caps Ditto Kenny misser Paul potential Mcstay was a favourite of managers and the press but did very little of note in a time when we had an array of decent midfielders Albiston walked into the team for a few years under Stein ; am not convinced he was that great Dave bowman and Jim Mcinally should never have been near a Scotland shirt Ditto Ian Wilson ( he played on Turkey you know) I'd take a 28 year old Kenny Misser for the Poland game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auchinyell Sox Change Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Alan McInally - Thats plenty Should never have been picked against Costa Rica It's the perfect example of Scotland making a complete balls up of things when the easy option was staring right in front of you McCoist and Johnston were at their peak, knew each others game inside out and between them had got us to Italia 90 Every good thing Andy Roxburgh did for Scotland was wiped out by that selection Was Rambo not employed out wide v Costa Rica ?Mo Johnston didn't do much that day in any case Fleck may have been a better option Midfield wasn't that creative back then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Was Rambo not employed out wide v Costa Rica ? Mo Johnston didn't do much that day in any case Fleck may have been a better option Midfield wasn't that creative back then Story I heard was Rambo only played because Roxy's research showed their keeper was dodgy at cross halls. So we lumped it into the box at every opportunity, but the guy caught everything. Turns out he was a different goalie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnpauls Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I suspect the story about Roxburgh's deploying McInally against the wrong Costa Rican keeper is apocryphal, but I do remember daft bugger Roxy, egged on by certain members of the press, claiming McInally was going to be a sensation in That World Cup until reality set in. The other so-calked world beater Roxburgh was talking up before the opening match was Jim Bett, who was just as ineffective as McInally in the game against Costa Rica. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnpauls Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 (edited) Well it's even more of an injustice then Alan Hansen's number of caps was not an injustice - he was poor for Scotland, though brilliant for Liverpool. I feel this was partly down to his not being that comfortable in a backs-to-the-wall defending set up we often found ourselves in, as he was used to playing for a Liverpool team that tended to dominate opponents and allow him to link up with attacks. Added to that was the feeling that his heart was rarely in it for us. The last straw was his refusal to give tips on how to mark Ian Rush when we were going into a World Cup qualifier against Wales and Stein asked him for some insights. Edited September 26, 2015 by mcnpauls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 (edited) Head the Costa Rica goalkeeper story a number of times over the years (and probably a element of truth in it) but think the honest answer was McCoist was not fit going into the World Cup (hence McInally was picked to partner Johnstone rather than Fleck) Edited September 26, 2015 by wanderer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robroysboy Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Story I heard was Rambo only played because Roxy's research showed their keeper was dodgy at cross halls. So we lumped it into the box at every opportunity, but the guy caught everything. Turns out he was a different goalie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robroysboy Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Head the Costa Rica goalkeeper story a number of times over the years (and probably a element of truth in it) but think the honest answer was McCoist was not fit going into the World Cup (hence McInally was picked to partner Johnstone rather than Fleck) I read Coisty auto-biography and did not get that impression at all. Also why take an unfit player to a world cup ? He also slated roxborough for not having the balls to speak to him about not playing, Coisty said he took the easy option of just letting the team to be read out in dressing room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 (edited) IIRC McCoist played along side Johnstone in the Hampden send off against Poland, but then didn't feature until midway through 2nd half vMalta (game McInally scored a double, which probably played a factor in his starting place) the week before the WC, with McCoist playing a late subs part in the first 2 games (after Costa Rica you would have expected McCosit to be 1st name on the team sheet, yet he only came on for last few minutes) before starting against Brazil. Either he was not 100% fit or he had pee'd Roxburgh behind the scenes (it's well documented that Johnstone did, hence he was dropped after the WC, whereas McCoist was heavily involved in the Euro Qualifiers... Our top goal scorer IIRC) Edited September 26, 2015 by wanderer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 A continuing theme of this thread is a lot to do with poor man management/in-fighting. You wonder what we might of achieved with the right people in charge at the right time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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