Scunnered Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 http://news.stv.tv/scotland-decides/analysis/1324740-commentary-stephen-daisley-on-liz-kendall-labour-and-the-conservatives/ "This prompted Trotskyite twink Owen Jones" Jeezo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 http://news.stv.tv/scotland-decides/analysis/1324740-commentary-stephen-daisley-on-liz-kendall-labour-and-the-conservatives/ Some days, Stephen Daisley writes really good articles; other days he doesn't. That article was definitely composed on one of his 'other' days. He should ask deed poll to remove the 'l' from his surname. Noticed Miranda the Lib Dem token on This Week saying she'd joined the Labour Party to do her bit to make sure Corbyn didn't get elected! She's worried they'll move away from the centre ground. I thought that'd be good for the Lib Dems in particular? :blink: More weird logic! I heard the Torygraph printed an article encouraging its readers to join and Labour and vote for Corbyn - to make Labour, in their view, unelectable (a 'bearded voter repellent', I think it was they called him). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 "This prompted Trotskyite twink Owen Jones" Jeezo! Sounds like you have competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted July 18, 2015 Author Share Posted July 18, 2015 Owen Jones is great, as is Corbyn. The media and most politicians are having kittens because Corbyn isn't a ##### like the rest of them who will actually try and help poor folk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Owen Jones is great, as is Corbyn. The media and most politicians are having kittens because Corbyn isn't a person like the rest of them who will actually try and help poor folk. The swear filter can be a right sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted July 20, 2015 Author Share Posted July 20, 2015 The swear filter can be a right cockwomble sometimes. Haha just noticed that Kendall, Cooper and Burnham expected to abstain in the budget vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Can someone explain the point of abstaining? As I understand they don't agree with the bill so are putting forward amendments but will abstain if these are rejected. Surely if you disagree with something you vote against it or am I being thick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted July 20, 2015 Author Share Posted July 20, 2015 Its pretty spineless. You either agree or disagree with it. As the main opposition party (stop laughing at the back) then abstaining is the same as agreeing with it. Sad thing is most of them probably do anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted July 20, 2015 Author Share Posted July 20, 2015 124 MP's vote against it, maybe around 40 "rebel" labour MP's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Labour must be forever pulling skelfs from their arses after all the fence sitting they have been doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 This tweet from the Labour Party last night was particularly galling. @UKLabour: Well never stop fighting for a fairer country. Will you join us? http://t.co/TfbzwiYWnX FFS! Vote against the bill then you spineless cowards! J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Would I be right in saying that Corbyn is the only no Oxford or Cambridge person standing? Maybe Scunnered will tell is when he is back next week? He would get my vote on that basis alone. But it is also one of the reason that the establishment would never accept him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 This tweet from the Labour Party last night was particularly galling. @UKLabour: Well never stop fighting for a fairer country. Will you join us? http://t.co/TfbzwiYWnX Agreed. Shocking lack of an apostrophe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 (edited) As a Unite member I can vote in the leadership election, but I'd have to register as an 'affiliate member' - zero chance of that happening - a pity as I'd definitely vote for Jezza . Edited July 21, 2015 by Charlie Endell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyDenoon Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Can someone explain the point of abstaining? As I understand they don't agree with the bill so are putting forward amendments but will abstain if these are rejected. Surely if you disagree with something you vote against it or am I being thick? Abstaining allows the red Tories to agree with the blue Tories without being seen to actually vote in favour with the blue Tories thus keeping their separate identity as red, er, Tories but without being actual evil Tories.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyDenoon Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Ian Murray abstained - time for the good folk of Edinburgh to let him know how they feel and get rid of the last Scottish labour mp at the earliest opportunity that arises? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Folk that use the term "Red Tories" are, without exception, complete wallopers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Folk that use the term "Red Tories" are, without exception, complete wallopers.Hard to disagree with that assertion though when Labour continue to back the Tories up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyDenoon Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Folk that use the term "Red Tories" are, without exception, complete wallopers.It's less of a mouthful than "people who are secretly Tory at heart but pretend to be Labour" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 It's less of a mouthful than "people who are secretly Tory at heart but pretend to be Labour" Yeah. It makes you look equally pathetic and childish though. You look just as pathetic as the old Labour guys who call the SNP "Tartan Tories". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyDenoon Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Yeah. It makes you look equally pathetic and childish though. You look just as pathetic as the old Labour guys who call the SNP "Tartan Tories". Tartan Tories has no basis in truth. Red Tories does. Calling labour out for what they are is hardly childish or pathetic. They're Tories in all but name. Each to their own though. Guess there must be a lot of wallopers going about that you know to be wallopers but have never met.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brant grebner Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Yeah. Better off calling them "Red Sell Outs with a paedophile enabler calling the shots for them as an interim measure" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Tartan Tories has no basis in truth. Red Tories does. Calling labour out for what they are is hardly childish or pathetic. They're Tories in all but name. Each to their own though. Guess there must be a lot of wallopers going about that you know to be wallopers but have never met.... You'll convince no one to come to your cause by calling Labour "Red Tories". You and your already convinced mates can all have a laugh and think how funny and clever you are. Your average undecided voter will be turned off by it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted July 21, 2015 Author Share Posted July 21, 2015 Aye labour are convincing voters to look elsewhere all by themselves. Great plan to try and win votes from Torries while gradually losing their own core voters. Or maybe a lot of them just agree with the welfare bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblet Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Yeah. It makes you look equally pathetic and childish though. You look just as pathetic as the old Labour guys who call the SNP "Tartan Tories". that seemed to work quite well for 20 odd years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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