Scunnered Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 so probably rarely if ever heard. And disciplined if they are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishcumnock Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Minister of Fash and dugs.i was talking about the drink cabinet ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flumax Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I've said before that the problem the SNP will have is the amount of ####wits that get elected and make a complete cockwomble if it. Nah as long as they keep their powder dry and go through the correct door and leave the talking to the old heads, it won't matter.... And I think that is why the whole defection/speak out clause was passed recently to stop over enthusiastic nut jobs going off script. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 And I think that is why the whole defection/speak out clause was passed recently to stop over enthusiastic nut jobs going off script. It's more likely to keep people from speaking out in disgust when they vote alongside conservative on economic issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Possibly but I think at least one McGlashan will slip through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 It's more likely to keep people from speaking out in disgust when they vote alongside conservative on economic issues. Like when your Labour party voted with the Tories for £30 billion more welfare cuts? When was the last time SNP voted with the Tories on economic issues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Like when your Labour party voted with the Tories for £30 billion more welfare cuts? When was the last time SNP voted with the Tories on economic issues? They're not my party As for SNP & Tory? Every other week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I've been following the young Paisley girls campaign quite closely since the smear against her, and she's formidable... Aye, it seemed bonkers picking a 20 year old to run against Alexander, but having seen her on TV a couple of times she's very competent indeed. A future at the top of the SNP beckons for her I think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stapes Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) Aye, it seemed bonkers picking a 20 year old to run against Alexander, but having seen her on TV a couple of times she's very competent indeed. A future at the top of the SNP beckons for her I think... Was really impressed by her. Saw her very succinctly break down everything that is wrong with establishment politics, before a careerist Labour man tried to put her down, thus adding even greater weight to the argument she's just made. Edited April 18, 2015 by Stapes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I would prefer my MP or MSP to actually have been involved in something, anything, other than politics. nothing more depressing than having a party machine droid parachuted into your constituency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 When was the last time SNP voted with the Tories on economic issues? Anyway, no matter how Wings try's to spin it, the SNP minority government enjoyed the backing of the Tories in Holyrood, while the SNP MP's voted alongside Tory on a majority of economic issues in 2005 to 2010... A ridiculous percentage of majority. Closer to home the SNP still enjoy regular Tory support (albeit unnecessary) in Holyrood, and there are SNP/Tory coalitions in local authorities. To suggest the SNP won't turn to the Torys when required is incredibly naive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 They're not my party You've told us you are trying to help one of them win an election. In my book that makes you one of them. It doesn't matter whether you are a member of the party or not. You are trying to canvass support for a Labour party candidate, so for this election at least, Labour is your party. Unless you've changed your mind of course. Which you are perfectly entitled to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 You've told us you are trying to help one of them win an election. In my book that makes you one of them. It doesn't matter whether you are a member of the party or not. You are trying to canvass support for a Labour party candidate, so for this election at least, Labour is your party. Unless you've changed your mind of course. Which you are perfectly entitled to do. If you say so, you're perfectly entitled to your opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 And there are Labour/Tory coalitions in local authorities. To suggest Labour won't turn to the Torys when required is incredibly naive. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Anyway, no matter how Wings try's to spin it, the SNP minority government enjoyed the backing of the Tories in Holyrood, Talk aboot spin FFS. Do you not think that would be more accurately described as the Tories voting with the SNP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 You've told us you are trying to help one of them win an election. In my book that makes you one of them. It doesn't matter whether you are a member of the party or not. You are trying to canvass support for a Labour party candidate, so for this election at least, Labour is your party. Unless you've changed your mind of course. Which you are perfectly entitled to do. I campaigned for Katy Clark in 2010 while I was a member of the SNP. Schrödingers activist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 ? Your edit is also accurate. But you're barking up the wrong tree if you think it bothers me or I'd dispute it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I campaigned for Katy Clark in 2010 while I was a member of the SNP. Schrödingers activist? Did they expel you for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Did they expel you for that? I campaigned for Kenny Gibson in 2011, so I'd imagine not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Was really impressed by her. Saw her very succinctly break down everything that is wrong with establishment politics, before a careerist Labour man tried to put her down, thus adding even greater weight to the argument she's just made. I'm not much of a gambler but I wonder what kind of odds you'd get on Mhairi Black taking that seat from the slimy Douglas Alexander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I'm not much of a gambler but I wonder what kind of odds you'd get on Mhairi Black taking that seat from the slimy Douglas Alexander. That's the nicest thing I've ever seen him referred to on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alkymalky Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I'm not much of a gambler but I wonder what kind of odds you'd get on Mhairi Black taking that seat from the slimy Douglas Alexander. Paddy Power are offering odds on every UK constituency. For this one the SNP are 1/3 to win while Labour are 2/1. All other parties 100/1 http://www.paddypower.com/bet/other-politics/scotland-constituencies?ev_oc_grp_ids=2024459 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Laud Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Anyway, no matter how Wings try's to spin it, the SNP minority government enjoyed the backing of the Tories in Holyrood, while the SNP MP's voted alongside Tory on a majority of economic issues in 2005 to 2010... A ridiculous percentage of majority. Closer to home the SNP still enjoy regular Tory support (albeit unnecessary) in Holyrood, and there are SNP/Tory coalitions in local authorities. To suggest the SNP won't turn to the Torys when required is incredibly naive. Well in Kirkcaldy the two i think tories joined with labour to run the cooncil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 With all due respect you've no chance . They want drones devoid of personality. Not sure how Mhairi Black got selected then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Not sure how Mhairi Black got selected then As far as I know... And I may be wrong, the only other candidate was John Clark... Who makes Patricia Gibson look like a genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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