Parklife Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Larky Masher said: but 2/3 of the population are not in danger of being slaughtered by one side, UN has stated that it's likely that 2/3rds of the country will likely be on the verge of starvation in a matter of months. Is it the word "slaughter" you're objecting to, or are you claiming that the Suadis aren't entirely to blame? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 28 minutes ago, Parklife said: UN has stated that it's likely that 2/3rds of the country will likely be on the verge of starvation in a matter of months. Is it the word "slaughter" you're objecting to, or are you claiming that the Suadis aren't entirely to blame? I don't think the Saudi are entirely to blame, this is a Sunni v Shia conflict with a bit of Al Qaeda thrown in. Are the Saudis causing most of the damage yes but Iranian government also has blood on it hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padre Andrew Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 8 hours ago, Larky Masher said: I don't think the Saudi are entirely to blame, this is a Sunni v Shia conflict with a bit of Al Qaeda thrown in. Are the Saudis causing most of the damage yes but Iranian government also has blood on it hands. Nothing in this region is simple, but the Saudis are bombing a neighbouring state. This is killing civilians and disrupting the infrastructure as a result of which aid (including food) cannot get through. The Iranians may have incited the Huthis to revolt, but it's the Saudi bombing that is causing the worst damage. And the UK and USA are cashing in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 10 hours ago, Padre Andrew said: Nothing in this region is simple, but the Saudis are bombing a neighbouring state. This is killing civilians and disrupting the infrastructure as a result of which aid (including food) cannot get through. The Iranians may have incited the Huthis to revolt, but it's the Saudi bombing that is causing the worst damage. And the UK and USA are cashing in. Thanks for explaining that without making reference to the parties religions or religious differences, well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 Getting crazier Saudi Arabia is reportedly forging ahead with plans to dig a canal cutting it off from its neighbouring rival Qatar and using part of it as a nuclear waste facility. Media reports in Saudi Arabia reported that five international companies have been invited to bid for the project, which the kingdom would like to wrap up within just one year. https://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20180626/odd-news/saudi-arabia-wants-to-turn-qatar-into-an-island.682882 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 5 hours ago, Eisegerwind said: Thanks for explaining that without making reference to the parties religions or religious differences, well done. But this is a religious war albeit intra-religion rather inter-religion though the main factor in this the Wahhabist doctrine that the Saudi's adhere to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 18 minutes ago, Larky Masher said: But this is a religious war albeit intra-religion rather inter-religion though the main factor in this the Wahhabist doctrine that the Saudi's adhere to. You might want read my post again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 What’s clear is, regardless of religious history, the Saudi government wouldn’t be able to achieve as much destruction without the support of the US government, openly or covertly. The media are superficially covering this as per. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padre Andrew Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Religion is at most / at best a fig leaf in these regional power games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 29 minutes ago, Padre Andrew said: Religion is at most / at best a fig leaf in these regional power games. especially considering a lot of the struggles were secular until very recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 A kakistocracy (/ˌkækɪsˈtɒkrəsi, -ˈstɒk-/) is a system of government which is run by the worst, least qualified, or most unscrupulous citizens. War crimes, genoicide, pedophillia, corruption etc we really are governed by the worst kinds of people, and we vote them in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 https://www.newstatesman.com/world/middle-east/2017/08/sunni-vs-shia-roots-islam-s-civil-war https://www.cfr.org/interactives/sunni-shia-divide#!/sunni-shia-divide https://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/07/middleeast/qatar-crisis-analysis/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, Larky Masher said: https://www.newstatesman.com/world/middle-east/2017/08/sunni-vs-shia-roots-islam-s-civil-war https://www.cfr.org/interactives/sunni-shia-divide#!/sunni-shia-divide https://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/07/middleeast/qatar-crisis-analysis/index.html Council on foreign relations and CNN? Haha cmon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 29 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: Council on foreign relations and CNN? Haha cmon Padre Andrew. Ha Ha cmon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 http://carnegie-mec.org/diwan/62375 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 29 minutes ago, Larky Masher said: http://carnegie-mec.org/diwan/62375 Reading their about us page was nauseating. A think tank who’s president worked under Obama. Think I’ll remain skeptical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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