Only Me?

[phil]

Am I the only TA member voting NO?

[Parklife]

No.

That was a crap first post. Make the second one better

[Dalgety Bay TA]

How do you become a TA member?

[Parklife]

How do you become a TA member?

Don't you know?!?

Pffft. To think i thought that you were one of the "elite".

[phil]

It was a crap first post. Sorry. Just interested.

[euan2020]

Am I the only TA member voting NO?

define "member" guessing it was not the swear filter :-)

[Parklife]

It was a crap first post. Sorry. Just interested.

Round about 40% of people who vote, will be voting No.

I suspect the ratio on here is about 80 Yes to 20% No.

You're far from alone. Plenty good reading on here on the case for Yes though, if you're open minded.

[Jonny]

Am I the only TA member voting NO?

On a scale of 1 - 10, where 1 is definite No and 10 is definite Yes, where would you place yourself?

[exile]

Am I the only TA member voting NO?

The board was re-set this week, so the stuff on here is not representative of all shades of opinion - you can be sure of some more NOs sooner or later!

[phil]

To answer those questions: I hope I am open minded. I have read extensively on the issue, respect everyone's views and not reached my conclusion lightly. This may be unpopular but on the scale of 1 to 10, I am a 1, absolutely opposed to independence.

[Stapes]

I am a 1, absolutely opposed to independence.

Why?

[Jonny]

To answer those questions: I hope I am open minded. I have read extensively on the issue, respect everyone's views and not reached my conclusion lightly. This may be unpopular but on the scale of 1 to 10, I am a 1, absolutely opposed to independence.

Sorry, I'm out.

[neilly71]

Seeing as u brought it up Phil, can I ask why u came to this conclusion?

[Flure]

I hope I am open minded........absolutely opposed to independence.

[mariokempes56]

I predict tears by bedtime..

[phil]

Certainly, basically I hate nationalism. I hate all the 'them' and 'us' stuff that this referendum has generated. I have friends from all over the UK and just hate the thought of us cutting ourselves off from the rest of Britain. I have always seen the home countries as like four brothers, all with distinct personalities, but with far more in common than differences. We get on each other's nerves, have fierce rivalries, make fun of each other, but, at the end of the day, we would stick up for each other if any of us were threatened. Sad that people want to throw that away. In addition, I don't believe a single word Alex Salmon and Nichola Sturgeon say. I truly believe they are more interested in Scotland becoming independent than Scotland being independent. As Salmond's biographer said, 'It's all about winning with Alex'. They will promise anything to get a Yes vote and have not demonstrated that they have a clear idea of how an independent Scotland would work in practice. It could genuinely be disastrous, and people need to think very carefully before they sign up for such an ill-thought through proposition. And no, I don't believe the statements coming out from the No campaign either but then I don't have to - I have lived in the union for nearly 50 years. I know what it's like. Is rule from Westminster perfect? Absolutely not. There are no end of ways we could improve things but I would rather see us attempt that than go down the independent route.

Edited September 4, 2014 by phil

[Stapes]

Right, where's the popcorn?

[Maq]

Certainly, basically I hate nationalism. I hate all the 'them' and 'us' stuff that this referendum has generated. I have friends from all over the UK and just hate the thought of us cutting ourselves off from the rest of Britain. I have always seen the home countries as like four brothers, all with distinct personalities, but with far more in common than differences. We get on each other's nerves, have fierce rivalries, make fun of each other, but, at the end of the day, we would stick up for each other if any of us were threatened. Sad that people want to throw that away. In addition, I don't believe a single word Alex Salmon and Nichola Sturgeon say. I truly believe they are more interested in Scotland becoming independent than Scotland being independent. As Salmond's biographer said, 'It's all about winning with Alex'. They will promise anything to get a Yes vote and have not demonstrated that they have a clear idea of how an independent Scotland would work in practice. It could genuinely be disastrous, and people need to think very carefully before they sign up for such an ill-thought through proposition. And no, I don't believe the statements coming out from the No campaign either but then I don't have to - I have lived in the union for nearly 50 years. I know what it's like. Is rule from Westminster perfect? Absolutely not. There are no end of ways we could improve things but I would rather see us attempt that than go down the independent route.

Can't agree. I think their priority is not Scotland becoming independent, or Scotland becoming independent, but actually, Scotland becoming independent

[brant grebner]

pish 4th post

[Flure]

Certainly, basically I hate nationalism. I hate all the 'them' and 'us' stuff that this referendum has generated. I have friends from all over the UK and just hate the thought of us cutting ourselves off from the rest of Britain. I have always seen the home countries as like four brothers, all with distinct personalities, but with far more in common than differences. We get on each other's nerves, have fierce rivalries, make fun of each other, but, at the end of the day, we would stick up for each other if any of us were threatened. Sad that people want to throw that away. In addition, I don't believe a single word Alex Salmon and Nichola Sturgeon say. I truly believe they are more interested in Scotland becoming independent than Scotland being independent. As Salmond's biographer said, 'It's all about winning with Alex'. They will promise anything to get a Yes vote and have not demonstrated that they have a clear idea of how an independent Scotland would work in practice. It could genuinely be disastrous, and people need to think very carefully before they sign up for such an ill-thought through proposition. And no, I don't believe the statements coming out from the No campaign either but then I don't have to - I have lived in the union for nearly 50 years. I know what it's like. Is rule from Westminster perfect? Absolutely not. There are no end of ways we could improve things but I would rather see us attempt that than go down the independent route.

This will be open-mindedness in action.

[Guest Extreme0]

1/10 - Troll Harder

[exile]

Certainly, basically I hate nationalism. I hate all the 'them' and 'us' stuff that this referendum has generated. I have friends from all over the UK and just hate the thought of us cutting ourselves off from the rest of Britain. I have always seen the home countries as like four brothers, all with distinct personalities, but with far more in common than differences. We get on each other's nerves, have fierce rivalries, make fun of each other, but, at the end of the day, we would stick up for each other if any of us were threatened. Sad that people want to throw that away. In addition, I don't believe a single word Alex Salmon and Nichola Sturgeon say. I truly believe they are more interested in Scotland becoming independent than Scotland being independent. As Salmond's biographer said, 'It's all about winning with Alex'. They will promise anything to get a Yes vote and have not demonstrated that they have a clear idea of how an independent Scotland would work in practice. It could genuinely be disastrous, and people need to think very carefully before they sign up for such an ill-thought through proposition. And no, I don't believe the statements coming out from the No campaign either but then I don't have to - I have lived in the union for nearly 50 years. I know what it's like. Is rule from Westminster perfect? Absolutely not. There are no end of ways we could improve things but I would rather see us attempt that than go down the independent route.

Just curious, what is your view of the Republic of Ireland, the forgotten (half) brother in your analogy?

[Betty]

Handbags at 20 paces.......

[mariokempes56]

Handbags at 20 paces.......

So that's where I left it.

[the_burger]

Certainly, basically I hate nationalism. I hate all the 'them' and 'us' stuff that this referendum has generated. I have friends from all over the UK and just hate the thought of us cutting ourselves off from the rest of Britain. I have always seen the home countries as like four brothers, all with distinct personalities, but with far more in common than differences. We get on each other's nerves, have fierce rivalries, make fun of each other, but, at the end of the day, we would stick up for each other if any of us were threatened. Sad that people want to throw that away. In addition, I don't believe a single word Alex Salmon and Nichola Sturgeon say. I truly believe they are more interested in Scotland becoming independent than Scotland being independent. As Salmond's biographer said, 'It's all about winning with Alex'. They will promise anything to get a Yes vote and have not demonstrated that they have a clear idea of how an independent Scotland would work in practice. It could genuinely be disastrous, and people need to think very carefully before they sign up for such an ill-thought through proposition. And no, I don't believe the statements coming out from the No campaign either but then I don't have to - I have lived in the union for nearly 50 years. I know what it's like. Is rule from Westminster perfect? Absolutely not. There are no end of ways we could improve things but I would rather see us attempt that than go down the independent route.

We want our own political system, not to set sail into the atlantic.