Fred_Zeppelin Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 From the commentator (Dodds?) when Ross County player doesn't fall over like a sack of spuds when the keeper touched his foot. This attitude sickens me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 From the commentator (Dodds?) when Ross County player doesn't fall over like a sack of spuds when the keeper touched his foot. This attitude sickens me. Dodds was in the Ross County dug out. Although I doubt he'd disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_Zeppelin Posted December 5, 2014 Author Share Posted December 5, 2014 Dodds was in the Ross County dug out. Although I doubt he'd disagree. Sounds like him. And aye, he would say the same thing. 3-2 now, interesting last few minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Good point though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_Zeppelin Posted December 5, 2014 Author Share Posted December 5, 2014 Good point though. Disagree, the keeper brushed his foot, if he'd gone down he would probably have got the decision but the fact he was able to stay on his feet quite easily shows it would have been a dive if he'd gone down. It's the attitude of the commentator that sickens me though, how many young players are going to think that diving is acceptable if you get away with it because an ex pro says it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 I can't wait until you're on here moaning about Celtic not getting a penalty next time one of your many cheats dives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Disagree, the keeper brushed his foot, if he'd gone down he would probably have got the decision but the fact he was able to stay on his feet quite easily shows it would have been a dive if he'd gone down. It's the attitude of the commentator that sickens me though, how many young players are going to think that diving is acceptable if you get away with it because an ex pro says it is. No mate, what I meant was that you made a good point. Got lost between posts, agree re commentators - become a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_Zeppelin Posted December 5, 2014 Author Share Posted December 5, 2014 No mate, what I meant was that you made a good point. Got lost between posts, agree re commentators - become a joke. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kps022000 Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 I can't wait until you're on here moaning about Celtic not getting a penalty next time one of your many cheats dives. What strange behaviour. Coming into a thread to attack the poster rather than the point being made. Not a go at you, just an observation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_Zeppelin Posted December 5, 2014 Author Share Posted December 5, 2014 What strange behaviour. Coming into a thread to attack the poster rather than the point being made. Not a go at you, just an observation. You get used to it. He's not very bright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kps022000 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 It's my own fault, I just expected better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLT NY Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Didn't see the incident to be fair. However, until refs start blowing for contact in the box when the striker doesn't go to ground, I won't be criticizing them for doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of Yermaw Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 From the commentator (Dodds?) when Ross County player doesn't fall over like a sack of spuds when the keeper touched his foot. This attitude sickens me. I would say in the majority of cases, a player would have gone down in the same situation. Doesn't make it right though. Not to bring the Celtic/Gudetti v Hearts incident up for any reason other than it is a non-penalty freshest in my mind. This is where the referees are a bit of a joke. There was no contact and therefore nothing the referee could have seen yet he gave a decision solely based on Gudetti's actions. In my view it is worse to give a penalty when no foul existed than to miss a penalty when there was a foul - a lot of referees, Collum in particular, look at it the other way which is a truly bizarre way to officiate. Based on that, if the County player had gone down, most referees would have given a penalty even though as you say, it would have been a dive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Didn't see the incident to be fair. However, until refs start blowing for contact in the box when the striker doesn't go to ground, I won't be criticizing them for doing it. It's not a foul to touch another player, it's a contact sport. You're not to allowed to trip another player, that would be a foul. Being touched and pretending it's tripped you up is cheating, nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 It's not a foul to touch another player, it's a contact sport. You're not to allowed to trip another player, that would be a foul. Being touched and pretending it's tripped you up is cheating, nothing else. Absolutely, does my head in to hear ex pros and commentators talking about 'there was contact' etc. Contact is allowed, kicking, shoving, tripping isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 You get used to it. He's not very bright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redz Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Nothing new, sadly. About 10 years ago my son, aged 5 at the time, and his pal were in the garden playin fitba. I looked out to see them throwing themselves to the ground and asked what they were doing. 'Practicing oor diving' was the reply........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagtag Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Absolutely, does my head in to hear ex pros and commentators talking about 'there was contact' etc. Contact is allowed, kicking, shoving, tripping isn't. I'd say the opposite. It was a penalty regardless of whether he went down. The keeper threw himself in, got nowhere near the ball and hit the player and was enough to knock him out of his stride and prevent him getting on to the ball. Penalty. The fact that refs won't give them suggests to me that the player has to go down to get it and so there lies the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_Zeppelin Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share Posted December 6, 2014 I'd say the opposite. It was a penalty regardless of whether he went down. The keeper threw himself in, got nowhere near the ball and hit the player and was enough to knock him out of his stride and prevent him getting on to the ball. Penalty. The fact that refs won't give them suggests to me that the player has to go down to get it and so there lies the problem. It was a brush, nothing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagtag Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 It was a brush, nothing more. It doesn't have to be more. There actually doesn't even have to be contact if he throws himself at the feet of a player causing him to break stride, lose his balance or prevent him getting the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 It doesn't have to be more. There actually doesn't even have to be contact if he throws himself at the feet of a player causing him to break stride, lose his balance or prevent him getting the ball.The problem is quite a lot of refs haven't played the game to any level. They don't understand the dynamics as they just have no experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of Yermaw Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 The problem is quite a lot of refs haven't played the game to any level. They don't understand the dynamics as they just have no experience. Having played the game to any level, does not necessarily make you a good coach, manager, pundit, director of football, or referee. It's an old school argument that doesn't stand up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_Zeppelin Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share Posted December 6, 2014 It doesn't have to be more. There actually doesn't even have to be contact if he throws himself at the feet of a player causing him to break stride, lose his balance or prevent him getting the ball. Jings! You'll be banning defending next! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagtag Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Jings! You'll be banning defending next! And maybe you'll learn the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_Zeppelin Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share Posted December 6, 2014 And maybe you'll learn the rules. The rules are actually quite clear. You should read them sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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