DoonTheSlope Posted July 2 Posted July 2 40 minutes ago, biffer said: what a miserable cunt you are. 28 minutes ago, Redz said: Yep, the complete self loather I'll start the +1's 👍 Keep up boays… 😉👇🏻 3 hours ago, DoonTheSlope said: I don’t work for the tourist board, I’m not an independent businessman and more importantly I don’t give a monkeys fuck what other people think of me or my kith and kin Quote
slasher Posted July 2 Posted July 2 22 hours ago, Redz said: Of course NSNP is a bit of fun that's not meant to be taken seriously Every set of fan groups we encountered chanted it 'towards' us, in a way that showed they simply wanted to join in with the fun too The haters of it appear to be, in the main, self loathing cunts who are jealous as fuck of not being part of what was, football apart, a magnificent trip Spot on brother 👍 Quote
slasher Posted July 2 Posted July 2 6 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: Keep up boays… 😉👇🏻 What about the Hibby casuals getting smashed about Dublin? Good laugh isn’t it? 😏 Quote
DoonTheSlope Posted July 2 Posted July 2 1 minute ago, slasher said: What about the Hibby casuals getting smashed about Dublin? Good laugh isn’t it? 😏 If that’s the case then more fool them for partaking in that kind of nonsense in the first place. If you’re going to put yourself into those kind of volatile situations then I’ve got zero sympathy I only hope no scarfers or innocent members of the public got caught up in melee that may have ensued Quote
Redz Posted July 2 Posted July 2 22 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: Keep up boays… 😉👇🏻 You actually do give a monkeys - You wouldnt mention it at all, far less twice, if you didn’t Quote
Goozay Posted July 2 Posted July 2 3 hours ago, Malcolm said: completely agree with you. Would much rather be England than us, with a great side and questionable fans. I don’t give a fuck about the partying and joviality… putting in a performance on the park and not in the bars afterwards is what matters Another one who writes as if the fans made an active choice to be well behaved and good fun at the expense of the team performing. If the Scotland fans had been more dickish, the performance on the park would have been exactly the same. Quote
Caledonian Craig Posted July 3 Posted July 3 Let's think about this? What would be better us bombing out in the First Round and supporters acting like total arseholes and the rest of the world looking down on us with contempt. Or Us bombing out in the First Round but our supporters being spoken of in high esteem around the world for various reasons. No contest. Always the latter. Yes the World Cup is, first and foremost, a football competition but it is like life. You strive to get the best you can put of it in whatever way you can. If Scots can take solace in the way they are regarded as visitors to the States then that's the something to take. Far better than having being arrested or something for obnoxious or aggressive behaviour post-match. Hardly a memory worth holding on to or being proud about or something to tell the next generation relation about in 20 years' time. Quote
Malcolm Posted July 3 Posted July 3 7 hours ago, Goozay said: Another one who writes as if the fans made an active choice to be well behaved and good fun at the expense of the team performing. If the Scotland fans had been more dickish, the performance on the park would have been exactly the same. i mentioned no causal relationship between 1. Fan behaviour and 2. Team performance. obviously they are two independent variables and I merely mentioned that if I had the choice of one or the otherwhich was the original question posed (and if neither could be true at thr same time) I would rather have a good team like England do. Cleary ideally you would have both. that said, I do find the attitude of our fans perplexing… “Were only here of the party”.. “whas like us”… etc. It wasnt like that amongst the fans in argentina after thr Iran game. We have grown to accept being pish. its just not for me. In the same way as getting decked up in my kilt or even worse, the full “footsoldier” outfit… daft hat, etc. For tournaments and games, a scotland top and jeans or shorts are fine - for me. And yes, im a miserable bastard when we get pumped - not up for a party. Quote
Caledonian Craig Posted July 3 Posted July 3 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Malcolm said: i mentioned no causal relationship between 1. Fan behaviour and 2. Team performance. obviously they are two independent variables and I merely mentioned that if I had the choice of one or the otherwhich was the original question posed (and if neither could be true at thr same time) I would rather have a good team like England do. Cleary ideally you would have both. that said, I do find the attitude of our fans perplexing… “Were only here of the party”.. “whas like us”… etc. It wasnt like that amongst the fans in argentina after thr Iran game. We have grown to accept being pish. its just not for me. In the same way as getting decked up in my kilt or even worse, the full “footsoldier” outfit… daft hat, etc. For tournaments and games, a scotland top and jeans or shorts are fine - for me. And yes, im a miserable bastard when we get pumped - not up for a party. Conducting yourself in an orderly and admirable manner in someone else's country is not accepting being pish. Not at all. There are many who are upset about results/performances but far better to be courteous than arseholes like say 1977 when Wembley got trashed. Edited July 3 by Caledonian Craig Quote
DoonTheSlope Posted July 3 Posted July 3 11 hours ago, Redz said: You actually do give a monkeys - You wouldnt mention it at all, far less twice, if you didn’t Aw ok, aye yer right. I’m spewing. I never knew that’s how these things work. Cheers for the lesson in psychology Alfred Adler there 🙄 Quote
Malcolm Posted July 3 Posted July 3 25 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: Conducting yourself in an orderly and admirable manner in someone else's country is not accepting being pish. Not at all. There are many who are upset about results/performances but far better to be courteous than arseholes like say 1977 when Wembley got trashed. completely agree but there is a difference between conducting yourself in an orderly manner and partying like you have won, singing no Scotland no party. Each to their own. Gerry Mcnee wrote an article on this about 25 years ago where he made the reference to “kilted clowns”…. It upset a few in the tartan army but it resonated with me. I preferred when there was an edge to our support, that doesn’t mean disorder. Last time I felt it was in the Holte End in Euro 96. Since then we have become family friendly, and this has also coincided with a lowering of expectations and acceptance of being “happy to be there” and getting pumped. Quote
biffer Posted July 3 Posted July 3 39 minutes ago, Malcolm said: completely agree but there is a difference between conducting yourself in an orderly manner and partying like you have won, singing no Scotland no party. Each to their own. Gerry Mcnee wrote an article on this about 25 years ago where he made the reference to “kilted clowns”…. It upset a few in the tartan army but it resonated with me. I preferred when there was an edge to our support, that doesn’t mean disorder. Last time I felt it was in the Holte End in Euro 96. Since then we have become family friendly, and this has also coincided with a lowering of expectations and acceptance of being “happy to be there” and getting pumped. If you're lining yourself up with Gerry McNee, you probably need to take wee look at your life. Quote
StirlingEgg Posted July 3 Posted July 3 7 minutes ago, biffer said: If you're lining yourself up with Gerry McNee, you probably need to take wee look at your life. What was that football debate show he was on a while back? "There's more plants here than the Botanic Gardens?" 😂 Quote
Malcolm Posted July 3 Posted July 3 48 minutes ago, biffer said: If you're lining yourself up with Gerry McNee, you probably need to take wee look at your life. you don’t like him? I must admit, he does like to court a bit of controversy. Picked his best ever Scotland 11 and didn’t pick Dalglish. Had Jordan and law up front and davie Cooper on the wing with Bertie Auld and Dave McKay in midfield! Quote
DoonTheSlope Posted July 3 Posted July 3 1 hour ago, Malcolm said: you don’t like him? I must admit, he does like to court a bit of controversy. Picked his best ever Scotland 11 and didn’t pick Dalglish. Had Jordan and law up front and davie Cooper on the wing with Bertie Auld and Dave McKay in midfield! He obviously must post on here then Quote
Malcolm Posted July 3 Posted July 3 9 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: He obviously must post on here then i like gerry mcnee. Had no hesitation pissing people off if he didnt agree with them. apparently Billy McNeil punched him in the face and almost lost his job as Celtic manager as a result 😂😂😂 Quote
fringo Posted July 3 Posted July 3 41 minutes ago, Malcolm said: i like gerry mcnee. Had no hesitation pissing people off if he didnt agree with them. apparently Billy McNeil punched him in the face and almost lost his job as Celtic manager as a result 😂😂😂 Gerry McNee was at the first tee at the Old Course St. Andrews and says to the starter : "I'm Gerry McNee, I'm a country member". The start replies : "Aye Mr McNee, I remember". Quote
Malcolm Posted July 3 Posted July 3 15 minutes ago, fringo said: Gerry McNee was at the first tee at the Old Course St. Andrews and says to the starter : "I'm Gerry McNee, I'm a country member". The start replies : "Aye Mr McNee, I remember". 🤣🤣🤣🤣 reminds me of a colleague of mine who described himself as a raconteur… I told he was certainly one of these syllables. Quote
biffer Posted July 3 Posted July 3 26 minutes ago, fringo said: Gerry McNee was at the first tee at the Old Course St. Andrews and says to the starter : "I'm Gerry McNee, I'm a country member". The start replies : "Aye Mr McNee, I remember". 😆 That one is getting stored away for later use Quote
Redz Posted July 3 Posted July 3 28 minutes ago, fringo said: Gerry McNee was at the first tee at the Old Course St. Andrews and says to the starter : "I'm Gerry McNee, I'm a country member". The start replies : "Aye Mr McNee, I remember". 👏😂👌 Quote
Redz Posted July 3 Posted July 3 4 hours ago, DoonTheSlope said: Aw ok, aye yer right. I’m spewing. I never knew that’s how these things work. Cheers for the lesson in psychology Alfred Adler there 🙄 Attempting to 'Defend / deflect' your stance a 3rd time is not a good look 🤷♂️ Quote
exile Posted July 3 Posted July 3 6 hours ago, Malcolm said: i mentioned no causal relationship between 1. Fan behaviour and 2. Team performance. You say that, but then why say 4 hours ago, Malcolm said: Since then we have become family friendly, and this has also coincided with a lowering of expectations and acceptance of being “happy to be there” and getting pumped. as if acceptance and lower expectations are part of the problem? Do you think results would improve if fans were less partying and more demanding, or not? Quote
Orraloon Posted July 3 Posted July 3 18 hours ago, Malcolm said: Would much rather be England than us, Of course you would, kinda goes without saying really. Quote
biffer Posted July 3 Posted July 3 so long as we all know where Malcolm an doontheslope are drinking before games so we can all avoid them. Quote
PSJ84 Posted July 3 Posted July 3 Better served to join them and sing No Scotland No Party imo. Quote
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