Tyler Fletcher - Going to the World Cup

[kumnio]

 

Amazing decision.

[vanderark14]

Brilliant news. It was like watching a clone of his dad when he came on

 

[vanderark14]

7 minutes ago, kumnio said:

 

Amazing decision.

FFS min, there's already a world cup squad thread 🤣🤣

[bdgsct]

So the standby list of Miller, Irving and Barron who were all in the Denmark squad were not given the option of joining up for the Curacau squad and then been totally overlooked for a youngster who was brought in to make up the numbers. Good luck earning the loyalty of these 3 if they are needed in the future.

[0Neils40yarder]

Can't wrap my head around this one at all

[vanderark14]

2 minutes ago, bdgsct said:

So the standby list of Miller, Irving and Barron who were all in the Denmark squad were not given the option of joining up for the Curacau squad and then been totally overlooked for a youngster who was brought in to make up the numbers. Good luck earning the loyalty of these 3 if they are needed in the future.

Fletcher obviously impressed when he joined up....impressed enough for the manager to decide he was the better option

 

[kumnio]

4 minutes ago, vanderark14 said:

FFS min, there's already a world cup squad thread 🤣🤣

Doesn't count unless you summon a mod...

[Souness]

Take Tyler, then Jack sees and wants a piece of the action?

[BryanBlessed]

12 minutes ago, bdgsct said:

So the standby list of Miller, Irving and Barron who were all in the Denmark squad were not given the option of joining up for the Curacau squad and then been totally overlooked for a youngster who was brought in to make up the numbers. Good luck earning the loyalty of these 3 if they are needed in the future.

Completely agree. I think he never wanted Miller and he took an extra forward to justify not taking him. Let's face it, we don't need five forwards. His hand was then forced with Gilmour being ruled out.

Miller must be, rightfully, raging. Look at all the times he turned up and didn't get any minutes. He's then dropped for a player who's hardly ever played. 

That doesn't mean I don't want Fietcher to do well but Clarke has been really underhand here.

[bdgsct]

12 minutes ago, vanderark14 said:

Fletcher obviously impressed when he joined up....impressed enough for the manager to decide he was the better option

 

That's my point Miller et al didn't get the opportunity to impress, presumably out of respect on the provision that they wouldn't be overlooked of there was an injury. 

[daviebee]

Ridiculous. Should've been Lennon Miller who has far more experience of actual first-team football. Elliot Watt would've been a good shout as well. Can't get my head round that one at all.

[BryanBlessed]

Just now, bdgsct said:

That's my point Miller et al didn't get the opportunity to impress, presumably out of respect on the provision that they wouldn't be overlooked of there was an injury. 

Miller also impressed on hus debut and the game after.

It's obviously non-footballing reasons just like it is with McBurnie.

[Third Lanark]

17 minutes ago, bdgsct said:

So the standby list of Miller, Irving and Barron who were all in the Denmark squad were not given the option of joining up for the Curacau squad and then been totally overlooked for a youngster who was brought in to make up the numbers. Good luck earning the loyalty of these 3 if they are needed in the future.

Yes. What message does this send out to Miller who has more experience than Tyler? One would have thought that he was the more likely candiate than Barron or Irving.

[er yir macaroon]

1 minute ago, BryanBlessed said:

Completely agree. I think he never wanted Miller and he took an extra forward to justify not taking him. Let's face it, we don't need five forwards. His hand was then forced with Gilmour being ruled out.

Miller must be, rightfully, raging. Look at all the times he turned up and didn't get any minutes. He's then dropped for a player who's hardly ever played. 

That doesn't mean I don't want Fietcher to do well but Clarke has been really underhand here.

Maybe it’s just a more like for like replacement. Fletcher manoeuvres the ball well like Gilmour and keeps possession, that was pretty clear. I think Miller is a bit more into the raking 40 yard pass and getting forward. 

[JECK]

What on earth going on with Lennon Miller then, must surely becoming out in the wash soon 

[vanderark14]

Scotland calls up a young very talented midfielder...yet some of you are fuckin greetin. BUT BUT BUT WHAT ABOOT MILLER 🤣

Get a grip, you are grown men FFS 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[kumnio]

Just now, vanderark14 said:

Scotland calls up a young very talented midfielder...yet some of you are fuckin greetin. BUT BUT BUT WHAT ABOOT MILLER 🤣

Get a grip, you are grown men FFS 🤣🤣🤣🤣

You can not think that its justified surely?

Lennon Miller has been in about ten squads, played 4 games, plays series A football, and he is cast aside for a training player. Its a ridiculous decision.

[vanderark14]

Just now, kumnio said:

You can not think that its justified surely?

Lennon Miller has been in about ten squads, played 4 games, plays series A football, and he is cast aside for a training player. Its a ridiculous decision.

Yes I can think it's justified. Fletcher was called up purely to give him experience but he's impressed so much that he's been called up

[Caledonian Craig]

9 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said:

Maybe it’s just a more like for like replacement. Fletcher manoeuvres the ball well like Gilmour and keeps possession, that was pretty clear. I think Miller is a bit more into the raking 40 yard pass and getting forward. 

Spot on. I stated this on another thread. Fletcher strikes me of the more Gilmour-type than Miller and would say that is why he has been selected. 

[Toepoke]

Surprised that a more experienced head hasn't been brought in, Miller in particular.

Fletcher did look decent when he came on and may well turn out to be a stalwart, but it seems a risky move.

Logistically it was easiest as he would have been in the team hotel and the plane is leaving in an hour.

 

[Caledonian Craig]

Where has all this dissenting shite come from over the years?

People crapping themselves that Miller will in some way turn his back on us. When did football become a sport where players hold managers to ransom over being selected. Get to that stage and the game is finished. Besides people thinking Miller will turn his back on us is not exactly painting him in a good character. It's not suggesting him as being very committed to the cause.

[Gemmill78er]

My initial thought when learning Gilmour was out was Fletcher as his replacement. He looked very composed when he came on and, as others have stated, his style of play does appear to best compensate for what we're losing with Gilmour being out.

Another thing he has is that big club experience, which the others don't really have (with the exception of Barron who has had to handle the challenging demands of being a Rangers player). Being at a club like Manchester United, with the expectation and good players around him like Fernandes, gives him an edge. I think that helps when being able to manage expectations at international level, especially at a World Cup.

That said, his call up is a bit of a kick in the teeth to the other guys who have been part of senior squads during qualifying. So that is something Clarke will have to manage beyond this World Cup. What he can't be accussed of is taking the easy option and I'd give credit to Flether for actually taking his chance yesterday and giving the manager a decision to make. Of course, if we give him a cap during one of the games, it also stops any possibility of him potentially deciding to play for England! And as someone else has indicated, maybe get his brother back into the Scotland camp!

It's a risk in terms of the more established squad players but it can be turned on its head for them to up their game in terms of forcing their way into future squads. And I suspect that had any been called up, they like Fletcher, won't be earmarked to start games (being limited to potential sub appearances).

 

 

Edited May 31 by Gemmill78er

[JandC]

The decision does seems quite harsh on the three players on standby but maybe Clarke thinks Fletcher is the closest in style to Gilmour and also maybe wants to tie him to Scotland as if he plays any minutes in any of the games then he can only play for Scotland in the future.

[vanderark14]

10 minutes ago, Gemmill78er said:

My initial thought when learning Gilmour was out was Fletcher as his replacement. He looked very composed when he came on and, as others have stated, his style of play does appear to best compensate for what we're losing with Gilmour being out.

Another thing he has is that big club experience, which the others don't really have (with the exception of Barron who has had to handle the challenging demands of being a Rangers player). Being at a club like Manchester United, with the expectation and good players around him like Fernandes, gives him an edge. I think that helps when being able to manage expectations at international level, especially at a World Cup.

That said, his call up is a bit of a kick in the teeth to the other guys who have been part of senior squads during qualifying. So that is something Clarke will have to manage beyond this World Cup. What he can't be accussed of is taking the easy option and I'd give credit to Flether for actually taking his chance yesterday and giving the manager a decision to make. Of course, if we give him a cap during one of the games, it also stops any possibility of him potentially deciding to play for England!

It's a risk in terms of the more established squad players but it can be turned on its head for them to up their game in terms of forcing their way into future squads. And I suspect that had any been called up, they like Fletcher, won't be earmarked to start games (being limited to potential sub appearances).

 

 

You can fuck right off with your reasoned response 🤣

[Arbroath1320]

Clarke gets criticised for not bringing in enough new faces; then gets criticised for bringing in a new face.

T. Fletcher is a deep-lying midfielder, like Gilmour, and he already looks like a better player.