AAAfather Posted May 22 Posted May 22 Quote I agree. Chalk and cheese, Scotland and England, at this world cup. One looking to get to the knock outs somehow, the other looking to win all the knock outs and bag the trophy. But England have a weakness. I don't rate their manager so much. And they have no team unity. They have 23 high calibre players who all know they are fighting for a place and will probably be dropped for a capable teammate if they make a serious mistake or have a duff game. I think Harry Maguire is shocked he had no credit in the Tuchel bank. How much does team unity count for? I don't know. Might be worth a thread to discuss England. Not to hate them. They are on a different flightpath at this world cup and some players are teammates to our Scots lads. Quote above from me in the Harvey Barnes thread. Yes, this is a Scotland forum but many of our players have past/current teammates in the English team. Put vaguely, we both play similar ("non-continental") styles of football. Both teams have to adapt to the US playing conditions from UK climate. We might learn something from England's preparation and journey that can help us with ours. Let's not hate them here, I don't want that (we all have an English in-law/relative somewhere). Let's note observations on England's tournament and build up and see if it can help us. Quote
exile Posted May 22 Posted May 22 I would prefer this thread - and the Harvey Barnes one 🤢 - to be in Non TA football, as it's not TA specific. We get enough media pushing content of other countries at us, it's all over TV, radio, internet, including social media adverts for the big broadcasters featuring 'big nation' teams and their clubs, we just can't escape, and it seems even coverage of our own games on TV is likely to be mixed up with coverage of other countries. TA specific is surely a haven for just Scotland-specific stuff? There is already world football and an English league thread in the non TA section, no problem. Happy to discuss England, their team and tactics, in TA specific if we end up playing them. 😉 Quote
Caledonian Craig Posted May 22 Posted May 22 8 minutes ago, exile said: I would prefer this thread - and the Harvey Barnes one 🤢 - to be in Non TA football, as it's not TA specific. We get enough media pushing content of other countries at us, it's all over TV, radio, internet, including social media adverts for the big broadcasters featuring 'big nation' teams and their clubs, we just can't escape, and it seems even coverage of our own games on TV is likely to be mixed up with coverage of other countries. TA specific is surely a haven for just Scotland-specific stuff? There is already world football and an English league thread in the non TA section, no problem. Happy to discuss England, their team and tactics, in TA specific if we end up playing them. 😉 Fully agree. Quote
AAAfather Posted May 22 Author Posted May 22 24 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: Fully agree. I don't object - if some mod has the powers to switch it to another forum Quote
DoonTheSlope Posted May 22 Posted May 22 2 minutes ago, AAAfather said: I don't object - if some mod has the powers to switch it to another forum Preferably pie and bovril Quote
Burj_Alba Posted May 23 Posted May 23 Sorry, AAA father but after this post I will give this thread a miss and focus on avoiding the mass media hysteria if they scrape a 1-0 win in their first game. Quote
vanderark14 Posted May 23 Posted May 23 12 hours ago, exile said: I would prefer this thread - and the Harvey Barnes one 🤢 - to be in Non TA football, as it's not TA specific. We get enough media pushing content of other countries at us, it's all over TV, radio, internet, including social media adverts for the big broadcasters featuring 'big nation' teams and their clubs, we just can't escape, and it seems even coverage of our own games on TV is likely to be mixed up with coverage of other countries. TA specific is surely a haven for just Scotland-specific stuff? There is already world football and an English league thread in the non TA section, no problem. Happy to discuss England, their team and tactics, in TA specific if we end up playing them. 😉 Completely agree with this @TAMB1 @TAMB2 can this thread be moved please Quote
vanderark14 Posted May 23 Posted May 23 14 hours ago, AAAfather said: Quote above from me in the Harvey Barnes thread. Yes, this is a Scotland forum but many of our players have past/current teammates in the English team. Put vaguely, we both play similar ("non-continental") styles of football. Both teams have to adapt to the US playing conditions from UK climate. We might learn something from England's preparation and journey that can help us with ours. Let's not hate them here, I don't want that (we all have an English in-law/relative somewhere). Let's note observations on England's tournament and build up and see if it can help us. My kids were born in England, they have cousins born in England, some of my close mates are English and I hope they get fuckin humped in every game they play. Why the hell would any self respecting Scotland fan want to observe a team we are unlikely to play? The only reason to observe them is to hope they get humiliated And what does our players being team mates of there's have to do with anything? Quote
duncan II Posted May 23 Posted May 23 Sadly this thread is representative of the new breed of inclusive Scotland fan. I blame the schools. And the 2014 referendum and its aftermath. Assimilation is a slow, creeping, yet inevitable outcome. 🙁 Quote
Dave78 Posted June 1 Posted June 1 On 5/23/2026 at 7:21 AM, duncan II said: Sadly this thread is representative of the new breed of inclusive Scotland fan. I blame the schools. And the 2014 referendum and its aftermath. Assimilation is a slow, creeping, yet inevitable outcome. 🙁 I think this post tells you everything you need to know about the thread's creator... Quote
Saul Tyer Posted June 1 Posted June 1 Hun shite!!! I have 100$ zero english relatives nor want any. Absolute arrogant wankers when it comes to football. No real Scotland fan should want Engerlund to win any game EVER. Quote
exile Posted June 1 Posted June 1 I don't think we need to bring politics or ethnicity into this. You could be a Scotland supporter whether Scottish, English or anything else. Quote
Grim Jim Posted June 1 Posted June 1 (edited) Sorry to bring up ethnicity again, as I do have a connection, though I doubt I'll be back here to discuss their team: I have one ancestor who's name was Jane English, also spelled Inglis on one document after they moved here ...from Ireland! (Mibbee I'm Tom English's 4th cousin or something.) Actually, on a quick headcount, one of my many cousins married an English lass. She's great! Not sure she has good taste though😄 Anyway cheerio! Edited June 1 by Grim Jim Quote
Nobby Posted Tuesday at 12:16 PM Posted Tuesday at 12:16 PM On 5/23/2026 at 6:38 AM, vanderark14 said: My kids were born in England, they have cousins born in England, some of my close mates are English and I hope they get fuckin humped in every game they play. Why the hell would any self respecting Scotland fan want to observe a team we are unlikely to play? The only reason to observe them is to hope they get humiliated And what does our players being team mates of there's have to do with anything? Where are PistonBroke and Bzzzz when you need them !!!!!! although to be fair Bzzzz was born down here !!!! Quote
glasgow jock Posted Wednesday at 09:20 AM Posted Wednesday at 09:20 AM I reckon England will easily progress to the QF and possibly could get to the semi's. . . . . . can't see anyone else winning outside of Argentina / France / Spain (also think Japan could be wort keeping an eye on) Quote
Fairbairn Posted Wednesday at 10:05 AM Posted Wednesday at 10:05 AM 44 minutes ago, glasgow jock said: I reckon England will easily progress to the QF and possibly could get to the semi's. . . . . . can't see anyone else winning outside of Argentina / France / Spain (also think Japan could be wort keeping an eye on) I think Portugal have one of, if not the, best midfields in the tournament and if Ronaldo brings his shooting boots could do well. Quote
fringo Posted Wednesday at 10:40 AM Posted Wednesday at 10:40 AM 33 minutes ago, Fairbairn said: I think Portugal have one of, if not the, best midfields in the tournament and if Ronaldo brings his shooting boots could do well. Yep, I also think Portugal could do well. Quote
fringo Posted Wednesday at 01:05 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:05 PM FFS , had to switch TV off again. SSN is my default background TV channel but all I've been hearing repeatedly from them is "ending 60 years of hurt" again and again and again. 60 years, blah, blah, blah !!! Quote
scotlad Posted Wednesday at 01:56 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:56 PM 3 hours ago, Fairbairn said: I think Portugal have one of, if not the, best midfields in the tournament and if Ronaldo brings his shooting boots could do well. Their defence and attack aren't too shabby either. With a better manager they might be serious contenders. Quote
scotlad Posted Wednesday at 02:01 PM Posted Wednesday at 02:01 PM 4 hours ago, glasgow jock said: I reckon England will easily progress to the QF and possibly could get to the semi's. . . . . . can't see anyone else winning outside of Argentina / France / Spain (also think Japan could be wort keeping an eye on) They'll easily get out of their group anyway, that's for sure: Croatia are good but most of their better players are aging; Ghana have a decent side on paper but they haven't won in six games (they sacked the manager who got them qualified and replaced him with Carlos Queiroz, who still hasn't won them a game); and Panama are skelp-fodder. Quote
vanderark14 Posted Wednesday at 02:34 PM Posted Wednesday at 02:34 PM 1 hour ago, fringo said: FFS , had to switch TV off again. SSN is my default background TV channel but all I've been hearing repeatedly from them is "ending 60 years of hurt" again and again and again. 60 years, blah, blah, blah !!! I will be avoiding most sports media till england are out Quote
Fairbairn Posted Wednesday at 03:00 PM Posted Wednesday at 03:00 PM 1 hour ago, scotlad said: Their defence and attack aren't too shabby either. With a better manager they might be serious contenders. Yeah I forgot about him. Quote
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