DoonTheSlope Posted April 15 Posted April 15 (edited) 25 minutes ago, slasher said: So you don’t see any issue with the morality of it regardless of terms and conditions? That’s really all I’m asking you No Having bought tickets over face value for Cologne it would be very hypocritical of me to say otherwise. Someone was selling a ticket for over face value. I was willing to pay the price they were asking. This was of course through a third party site. It was still however an agreement between two consenting parties @Caledonian Craig (forgive me if I’m mistaken and it was someone else) posted (might be this thread or another one) with zero self awareness whatsoever he has bought tickets for more than they were initially purchased for, yet came on here saying it’s a disgrace and what not that someone else is selling for more than they initially paid for it. It’s hypocrisy personified. He’s supporting the very thing he’s claiming to be outraged about It is what it is. You can pay the money for the tickets and enjoy the World Cup or you can make a stand and put your money to better use and watch it on the tele like the rest of us Edited April 15 by DoonTheSlope Quote
mccaughey85 Posted April 15 Posted April 15 8 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: No Having bought tickets over face value for Cologne it would be very hypocritical of me to say otherwise. Someone was selling a ticket for over face value. I was willing to pay the price they were asking. This was of course through a third party site. It was still however an agreement between two consenting parties @Caledonian Craig (forgive me if I’m mistaken and it was someone else) posted (might be this thread or another one) with zero self awareness whatsoever he has bought tickets for more than they were initially purchased for, yet came on here saying it’s a disgrace and what not that someone else is selling for more than they initially paid for it. It’s hypocrisy personified. He’s supporting the very thing he’s claiming to be outraged about It is what it is. You can pay the money for the tickets and enjoy the World Cup or you can make a stand and put your money to better use and watch it on the tele like the rest of us Theres huge difference between selling a ticket a little bit over the retail price and charging someone 6k for a ticket that cost 600. Surely you must understand that point? Quote
DoonTheSlope Posted April 15 Posted April 15 (edited) Anyone but anyone who has ever purchased tickets through a third party platform for over face value or official vendors resell platform for more than the initial outlay yet complains when someone else is selling via an official vendors authorised resell platform let alone a third party site is a hypocrite and has zero credibility whatsoever Edited April 15 by DoonTheSlope Quote
slasher Posted April 15 Author Posted April 15 15 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: No Having bought tickets over face value for Cologne it would be very hypocritical of me to say otherwise. Someone was selling a ticket for over face value. I was willing to pay the price they were asking. This was of course through a third party site. It was still however an agreement between two consenting parties @Caledonian Craig (forgive me if I’m mistaken and it was someone else) posted (might be this thread or another one) with zero self awareness whatsoever he has bought tickets for more than they were initially purchased for, yet came on here saying it’s a disgrace and what not that someone else is selling for more than they initially paid for it. It’s hypocrisy personified. He’s supporting the very thing he’s claiming to be outraged about It is what it is. You can pay the money for the tickets and enjoy the World Cup or you can make a stand and put your money to better use and watch it on the tele like the rest of us We got there in the end. Obviously I disagree but thanks for clarifying 👍 Quote
DoonTheSlope Posted April 15 Posted April 15 (edited) 15 minutes ago, slasher said: We got there in the end. Obviously I disagree but thanks for clarifying 👍 “We got there in the end” not quite. We got there because you asked and I replied. You spent the first 2 and half pages on this thread denying the very existence of the facts around T&Cs You asked me and in my reply I answered Edited April 15 by DoonTheSlope Quote
slasher Posted April 15 Author Posted April 15 7 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: “We got there in the end” not quite. We got there because you asked and I replied. You spent the first 2 and half pages on this thread denying the very existence of the facts around T&Cs You asked me and in my reply I answered Why are you making stuff up now? What I have done is called out the cuntish behaviour of some fans touting tickets to be examined by fellow fans and the SSC. I’ve never denied that FIFA have gamed the system to allow such behaviour at all. You’re going to be arguing with yourself in an empty thread at this rate! Quote
mccaughey85 Posted April 15 Posted April 15 2 minutes ago, slasher said: Why are you making stuff up now? What I have done is called out the cuntish behaviour of some fans touting tickets to be examined by fellow fans and the SSC. I’ve never denied that FIFA have gamed the system to allow such behaviour at all. You’re going to be arguing with yourself in an empty thread at this rate! Your wasting your time. Guys far too stubborn to accept the point your making. Quote
DoonTheSlope Posted April 15 Posted April 15 14 minutes ago, slasher said: Why are you making stuff up now? What I have done is called out the cuntish behaviour of some fans touting tickets to be examined by fellow fans and the SSC. I’ve never denied that FIFA have gamed the system to allow such behaviour at all. You’re going to be arguing with yourself in an empty thread at this rate! You’ve literally been calling for the SSC to take action against someone reselling a ticket. As you’ve been told repeatedly there’s no grounds for disciplinary action by the SSC because as per the T&Cs there has been no breach of regulations You’ve literally been on here saying the SSC should have made it clear that ‘touting’ tickets would have ‘consequences’ As you’ve been told repeatedly the SSC would have no grounds to initiate ‘consequences’ as it’s another bodies jurisdiction You've literally been denying the very existence of the T&Cs all the way through this thread Quote
slasher Posted April 15 Author Posted April 15 30 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: You’ve literally been calling for the SSC to take action against someone reselling a ticket. As you’ve been told repeatedly there’s no grounds for disciplinary action by the SSC because as per the T&Cs there has been no breach of regulations You’ve literally been on here saying the SSC should have made it clear that ‘touting’ tickets would have ‘consequences’ As you’ve been told repeatedly the SSC would have no grounds to initiate ‘consequences’ as it’s another bodies jurisdiction You've literally been denying the very existence of the T&Cs all the way through this thread You’ve been told repeatedly that the touting of tickets here is morally repugnant. I know you get a wee hard on being the odd one out so enjoy your solitude. FIFA’s terms and conditions are neither here nor there, the SSC absolutely could and should have done something to discourage this in my opinion although I accept it’s too late now. That you take the opposite view is your opinion and not fact as you seem to claim. It’s only very recent that the SSC have allowed ticket transfers never mind reselling at an exorbitant mark up. Quote
DoonTheSlope Posted April 15 Posted April 15 13 minutes ago, slasher said: You’ve been told repeatedly that the touting of tickets here is morally repugnant. I know you get a wee hard on being the odd one out so enjoy your solitude. FIFA’s terms and conditions are neither here nor there, the SSC absolutely could and should have done something to discourage this in my opinion although I accept it’s too late now. That you take the opposite view is your opinion and not fact as you seem to claim. It’s only very recent that the SSC have allowed ticket transfers never mind reselling at an exorbitant mark up. What should the SSC do to discourage it? They spread bum information to its members and said tickets couldn’t be sold or transferred. According to a post on here they also made a request to FIFA that there shouldn’t be a resell platform which FIFA declined. I’m genuinely intrigued here, please tell me what else you’d expect the SSC to do to discourage it The SSC are neither here nor there in this debate because as you’ve been told repeatedly again and again which you keep ignoring they had nothing to do with the selling and distribution of tickets For the most part I haven’t gave my opinion until asked 2 or 3 posts ago. I’ve merely relayed the facts of the situation but you repeatedly ignore what’s being put to you Please tell me how you’d expect the SSC to discourage and reprimand someone selling a ticket that they held no contract over with the consumer. Please please please tell me Quote
slasher Posted April 15 Author Posted April 15 9 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: What should the SSC do to discourage it? They spread bum information to its members and said tickets couldn’t be sold or transferred. According to a post on here they also made a request to FIFA that there shouldn’t be a resell platform which FIFA declined. I’m genuinely intrigued here, please tell me what else you’d expect the SSC to do to discourage it The SSC are neither here nor there in this debate because as you’ve been told repeatedly again and again which you keep ignoring they had nothing to do with the selling and distribution of tickets For the most part I haven’t gave my opinion until asked 2 or 3 posts ago. I’ve merely relayed the facts of the situation but you repeatedly ignore what’s being put to you Please tell me how you’d expect the SSC to discourage and reprimand someone selling a ticket that they held no contract over with the consumer. Please please please tell me They don’t need to hold the contract ffs! It’s a supporters club. In theory you could be kicked out of it for saying something they didn’t like in the media. You were literally getting your knickers in a knot about points harvesting…..this is far worse. If the SSC had put out an email saying that anyone proven to be selling Supporter Value tickets for profit would have their membership reviewed there’s not a fuckin thing you or I or FIFA or anyone else could have done about it. It may not have stopped it completely but it would certainly made most think twice given these are regular match goers we’re talking about. Quote
DoonTheSlope Posted April 15 Posted April 15 (edited) 43 minutes ago, slasher said: They don’t need to hold the contract ffs! It’s a supporters club. In theory you could be kicked out of it for saying something they didn’t like in the media. You were literally getting your knickers in a knot about points harvesting…..this is far worse. The SSC have allowed harvesting for years. I concede that they have always tried to minimise this in regards to away games with pick ups. However in the last decade harvesting of home points is rife and it’s in plane sight too, the SSC are in a position to attempt to eradicate this but they choose not to 43 minutes ago, slasher said: If the SSC had put out an email saying that anyone proven to be selling Supporter Value tickets for profit would have their membership reviewed there’s not a fuckin thing you or I or FIFA or anyone else could have done about it. It may not have stopped it completely but it would certainly made most think twice given these are regular match goers we’re talking about. What part of the SSC had no input as to how tickets were sold and distributed do you not understand. I’ll repeat myself to you yet again, the SSC merely suggested who should be given first refusal of Scotlands PMA tickets. The tickets for the World Cup have absolutely nothing to do with them The SSC have no formal grounds whatsoever to review someone’s membership in relation to this instance as the selling and distribution of tickets had absolutely zero to do with them If they did revoke someone’s membership for selling a FIFA ticket in accordance with FIFAs T&Cs on FIFAs resell platform they’d be treading very murky waters and the ombudsman and members representatives should they take legal action would struggle to find an easier case Edited April 15 by DoonTheSlope Quote
ceudmilefailte Posted April 15 Posted April 15 2 hours ago, mccaughey85 said: Theres huge difference between selling a ticket a little bit over the retail price and charging someone 6k for a ticket that cost 600. Surely you must understand that point? Do you seriously think anyone will pay 6k for a ticket? If you do let them know they can have mine and I’ll chuck in the other two and call it a round 15k Quote
bdgsct Posted April 15 Posted April 15 Is it possible FIFA are selling Scotland end tickets on the resale platform? I've not seen anything to suggest that the SSC sections are exclusive. As proven, if FIFA think they can charge a premium, they will do it. Quote
slasher Posted April 15 Author Posted April 15 56 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: If they did revoke someone’s membership for selling a FIFA ticket in accordance with FIFAs T&Cs on FIFAs resell platform they’d be treading very murky waters and the ombudsman and members representatives should they take legal action would struggle to find an easier case Ombudsman 🤣🤣 This is moonhowling stuff now ya daftie. 😂😂😂 Quote
DoonTheSlope Posted April 15 Posted April 15 3 minutes ago, slasher said: Ombudsman 🤣🤣 This is moonhowling stuff now ya daftie. 😂😂😂 You’ve reached the childish and petty remark stage now because you aren’t able to construct a valid or coherent counter argument I see Quote
slasher Posted April 15 Author Posted April 15 11 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: You’ve reached the childish and petty remark stage now because you aren’t able to construct a valid or coherent counter argument I see It’s hardly my fault that you ended up reaching the stage of talking utter horse shit Quote
slasher Posted April 15 Author Posted April 15 Dear Mr O.M. Budsman Ive been kicked out the SSC for being radgie and touting tickets. Gonnae help us eh? Mr Slope 🤣 Quote
DoonTheSlope Posted April 15 Posted April 15 Just now, slasher said: It’s hardly my fault that you ended up reaching the stage of talking utter horse shit I’ll tell you what to do, Slasher. Go back to the very beginning of this thread and read every single post. Keep doing that until you understand the facts that have been put before you Quote
DoonTheSlope Posted April 15 Posted April 15 2 minutes ago, slasher said: Dear Mr O.M. Budsman Ive been kicked out the SSC for being radgie and touting tickets. Gonnae help us eh? Mr Slope 🤣 This looks like another thread where you end up making a tool of yourself. It’s not even a Sunday night and Celtic haven’t even got beat! You must be rattled Now I know how @dandydunnand @vanderark14felt on the Celtic thread Quote
slasher Posted April 15 Author Posted April 15 13 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: I’ll tell you what to do, Slasher. Go back to the very beginning of this thread and read every single post. Keep doing that until you understand the facts that have been put before you Don’t need to, ticket touts are cunts. Quote
slasher Posted April 15 Author Posted April 15 9 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: This looks like another thread where you end up making a tool of yourself. It’s not even a Sunday night and Celtic haven’t even got beat! You must be rattled Now I know how @dandydunnand @vanderark14felt on the Celtic thread Awww, you calling for back up? How touching. I had no idea you guys were friends. 👍 Quote
DoonTheSlope Posted April 15 Posted April 15 (edited) 17 minutes ago, slasher said: Awww, you calling for back up? How touching. I had no idea you guys were friends. 👍 Unlike a lot of the cowards on here if I mention someone I tend to try and do them the courtesy of tagging (or naming if I can’t get their username to tag) should they have anything to add. I certainly don’t coward out of things by using initials or just alluding to the poster in question and try avoid any pushback. I’m looking at you @Ally Bongo As like other threads on here though this one’s descending into another Slasher gets rattled and is making a fool of himself Edited April 15 by DoonTheSlope Quote
slasher Posted April 15 Author Posted April 15 (edited) 8 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: Unlike a lot of the cowards on here if I mention someone I tend to try and do them the courtesy of tagging or name if I can’t get their proper username should they have anything to add. I certainly don’t coward out of things by using initials As like other threads on here though this one’s descending into another Slasher gets rattled and is making a fool of himself If I can figure out what Im supposed to be rattled about I’ll get back to you. As for making a fool of oneself, well that honour is all yours fella. 👍 Edited April 15 by slasher Quote
DoonTheSlope Posted April 15 Posted April 15 4 minutes ago, slasher said: If I can figure out what Im supposed to be rattled about I’ll get back to you. Textbook rattlee response upon realisation their argument held no water whatsoever 8 minutes ago, slasher said: As for making a fool of oneself, well that honour is all yours fella. 👍 Your childish quips upon being unable to put forward a valid and coherent counterpoint would suggest otherwise 👍🏻 Quote
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