Big Ramy 1314 Posted March 7 Posted March 7 14 hours ago, RDFH64 said: Definitely not, thereโs no intelligence of any kind in that room ๐ตโ๐ซ ๐ Quote
exile Posted March 8 Author Posted March 8 6 hours ago, Toepoke said: He has interesting tattoos as well... We Be the People? Quote
exile Posted March 9 Author Posted March 9 (edited) "Meet the new boss... same as the old boss"? ย Edited March 9 by exile Quote
Ally Bongo Posted March 10 Posted March 10 2026 President Donald Trump says the Iran war will be over "pretty quickly", but also that US "hasn't won enough" and is aiming for "ultimate victory" Earlier, he suggested US operations against Iran could end soon, saying "I think the war is very complete, pretty much" ย ย ย ย 1942 Only a Few Small Places Left": Hitler boasted to the party faithful that the capture of Stalingradย was nearly complete, stating, "...we have it; there are only a couple of very small places left there". Avoiding "Another Verdun": He explained that he did not want to storm the final, tiny Soviet pockets with a massive assault, preferring to let the defenders die in a slow, grinding battle. Quote
Saint4805 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 I see that TACO is already laying the groundwork for an off ramp after realising that regime change isn't as easy as he thought after being played like a fiddle and groomed by Bibi.ย No doubt he'll tell the gullible idiots in his base that it's a huge victory when in reality it'll be a botched attempt at regime change and a big fat L.ย ย Quote
exile Posted March 12 Author Posted March 12 Israel threatens to take Lebanese territory as it ramps up Beirut bombing in escalating war It is almost a side note but Israel has been escalating attacks on Lebanon, most recently central Beirut - this is following Hezbollah missiles fired into Israel. Apprarently over 600 people have been killed (1500 injured) in Lebanon - I think that's just in the last week and a half - that would surely be more prominent news if not for Iran. Quote
Hertsscot Posted March 12 Posted March 12 23 minutes ago, exile said: Israel threatens to take Lebanese territory as it ramps up Beirut bombing in escalating war It is almost a side note but Israel has been escalating attacks on Lebanon, most recently central Beirut - this is following Hezbollah missiles fired into Israel. Apprarently over 600 people have been killed (1500 injured) in Lebanon - I think that's just in the last week and a half - that would surely be more prominent news if not for Iran. I remember watching something a little while back and it was said about 20% of Lebanon's population were refugees. Now add 600 -700,000 internally placed people and it puts UK debates about immigration into a very different perspective. Quote
fringo Posted March 12 Posted March 12 4 minutes ago, Hertsscot said: I remember watching something a little while back and it was said about 20% of Lebanon's population were refugees. Now add 600 -700,000 internally placed people and it puts UK debates about immigration into a very different perspective. I read something similar several years ago. Population of approximately 5m at the time and about 1m refugees mostly from Syria.ย Quote
exile Posted March 16 Author Posted March 16 Trump says NATO face a โvery badโ future if his proposal for a military operation in the strait received no response or a negative one. Quote
StirlingEgg Posted March 16 Posted March 16 33 minutes ago, exile said: Trump says NATO face a โvery badโ future if his proposal for a military operation in the strait received no response or a negative one. He doesn't even know what it stands for (in both senses!).ย Quote
Malcolm Posted March 16 Posted March 16 2 hours ago, StirlingEgg said: He doesn't even know what it stands for (in both senses!).ย I think itโs a fair shout. ย If we donโt help America why the fuck should they help us if it comes to it. Quote
Caledonian Craig Posted March 16 Posted March 16 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Malcolm said: I think itโs a fair shout. ย If we donโt help America why the fuck should they help us if it comes to it. Excuse me? Remind me what happened when UN countries asked US for help with the war in Ukraine. No military help of any note came. In fact Trump was more willing to appease Putin. Iran are a weak, feeble country who have not invaded their neighbours yet US are bombing the shit out of them. Russia are a military power and have invaded a neighbouring country and Trump shoos away from any action. Go figure. Hypocrisy of the most supreme order. Also, if I were Starmer I'd just tell Trump I don't want my troops dying for a US cause and then years down the line their deaths being minimal used by a future president as them not playing any real part at all. Edited March 16 by Caledonian Craig Quote
Ally Bongo Posted March 16 Posted March 16 34 minutes ago, Malcolm said: I think itโs a fair shout. ย If we donโt help America why the fuck should they help us if it comes to it. Anyone that doesn't think that Trump is a fucking imbecile by now needs to look in the mirrorย Imagine attacking Iran with either no cunt of a plan or a right bad plan drawn up by Israelย How the fuck nobody mentioned the Straits of Hormuz as soon as Trump sent the aircraft carrier to the middle east is fucking mind bogglingย And everyone that says the comparisons of Trump and Hitler are ludicrous have a right long re read of their history booksย Both were fucking hopeless military strategists that carried a lot of luck until it eventually ran outย Starmer is a useless fanny but at least he sees this for what it isย Quote
exile Posted March 16 Author Posted March 16 49 minutes ago, Malcolm said: I think itโs a fair shout. ย If we donโt help America why the fuck should they help us if it comes to it. For all the normal reasons a country intervenes in another part of the world. Because it's in their interests. Like, America helped drive the Nazis out of western Europe because if they didn't, the whole of Europe would belong to the Red Army, and they didn't want that. Or Britain helped to defend France from Nazis on similar basis; it didn't mean we'd expect France to help us in the cod war or whatever. USA didn't help UK fight Nasser, it wasn't in their interests. USA didn't help UK fight Argentina in the Falklands, whileย French who fought with us in Egypt were arming/assisting the Argentinians, and so on. It doesn't mean we should get involved in every grubby little war the Americans think is in their interests.ย Quote
Rich NATA Posted March 16 Posted March 16 1 hour ago, Malcolm said: I think itโs a fair shout. ย If we donโt help America why the fuck should they help us if it comes to it. I'll ask you again. What do you think of Tony Blair? Some people have spent the past twenty years calling him a war criminal. Quote
StirlingEgg Posted March 17 Posted March 17 10 hours ago, Malcolm said: I think itโs a fair shout. ย If we donโt help America why the fuck should they help us if it comes to it. You might have trouble rolling your sleeves up in that tailored tweed jacket.ย Quote
Saint4805 Posted March 17 Posted March 17 (edited) 10 hours ago, Malcolm said: I think itโs a fair shout. ย If we donโt help America why the fuck should they help us if it comes to it. You remember Afghanistan after 9/11? Help was given and many European NATO soldiers lost their lives but TACO conveniently forgets to mention that. Iran have been on the hit list for many years and this war was bought by Israel through AIPAC and their bankrolling of Trump's election campaign. Now American taxpayers are footing the rest of the bill. I'm no fan of Starmer who is generally weak and ineffective but he's got this call absolutely right which is contrast to Farage and Badenoch who would have dragged us in from the start despite some recent backpedalling. Edited March 17 by Saint4805 Quote
Malcolm Posted March 17 Posted March 17 10 hours ago, Rich NATA said: I'll ask you again. What do you think of Tony Blair? Some people have spent the past twenty years calling him a war criminal. I donโt really like Tony Blair but he is not a war criminal. ย for a Labour leader at least he generated some economic growth. Quote
Squirrelhumper Posted March 17 Posted March 17 45 minutes ago, Malcolm said: I donโt really like Tony Blair but he is not a war criminal. ย for a Labour leader at least he generated some economic growth. He went to war based on blanant lies - what do you consider to be a war criminal?ย Did he leave Iraq (and Afghan) in a better state than before they went in? Nope, they helped create terror cells and were the best recruitment drive they ever had.ย As for Trump, amazing how he's going cap in hand to other countries now even though his war was won last week? Almost like he's not got a fucking clue what is going on.ย Let America go alone with Israel and they can have Vietnam II.ย i'd be more than happy for us to stay well out of it, i'm sure the vast majority of the sane population think likewise. As will be the case in Germany, Japan, France etc.ย Quote
Saint4805 Posted March 17 Posted March 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, Squirrelhumper said: Did he leave Iraq (and Afghan) in a better state than before they went in? Nope, they helped create terror cells and were the best recruitment drive they ever had.ย This is a very important point. Some people seem to think the whole region will be some kind of peace paradise after the Iranian regime have been toppled. It's pure fantasy. War and terrorism are both nailed on for another few decades. There is already growing talk of Tรผrkiye being next on Israel & America's list.ย ย Edited March 17 by Saint4805 Quote
vanderark14 Posted March 17 Posted March 17 13 hours ago, Caledonian Craig said: Excuse me? Remind me what happened when UN countries asked US for help with the war in Ukraine. No military help of any note came. In fact Trump was more willing to appease Putin. Iran are a weak, feeble country who have not invaded their neighbours yet US are bombing the shit out of them. Russia are a military power and have invaded a neighbouring country and Trump shoos away from any action. Go figure. Hypocrisy of the most supreme order. Also, if I were Starmer I'd just tell Trump I don't want my troops dying for a US cause and then years down the line their deaths being minimal used by a future president as them not playing any real part at all. I am no trump fan and everyone knows he isn't going after Iran our some act of kindness, however Iran may not have invaded their neighbours but don't they fund Hezbollah and Hamas? Israel are Iran's neighbours and Iran are funding two terrorist organisations who want Israel wiped off the map.ย Its a real head scratcher for everyone because we can all agree Trump isn't some super hero with a heart of gold but Iran are no angels, especially when it comes to their own people Quote
Malcolm Posted March 17 Posted March 17 Stoning women and throwing gays off high buildings is not very nice. ย Imagine what they would do with nukes. Quote
RDFH64 Posted March 17 Posted March 17 2 hours ago, Malcolm said: I donโt really like Tony Blair but he is not a war criminal. ย for a Labour leader at least he generated some economic growth. Tony Blair, WMD war mongering devil ๐ย Quote
RDFH64 Posted March 17 Posted March 17 2 minutes ago, Malcolm said: Stoning women and throwing gays off high buildings is not very nice. ย Imagine what they would do with nukes. Throwing people off of high buildings happens every other day in Russia, usually to Putins ex friends. Not heard you condemning that ๐ค Quote
Malcolm Posted March 17 Posted March 17 2 minutes ago, RDFH64 said: Throwing people off of high buildings happens every other day in Russia, usually to Putins ex friends. Not heard you condemning that ๐ค I donโt agree with that either. never liked Iranโฆ. ย Looked a nice place in the 70sโฆ decent football team. these radical islamists have ruined it for me. Quote
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