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6 hours ago, Toepoke said:

He has interesting tattoos as well...

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"Meet the new boss... same as the old boss"?

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  • Only a Few Small Places Left": Hitler boasted to the party faithful that the capture of Stalingradย was nearly complete, stating, "...we have it; there are only a couple of very small places left there".
  • Avoiding "Another Verdun": He explained that he did not want to storm the final, tiny Soviet pockets with a massive assault, preferring to let the defenders die in a slow, grinding battle.
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I see that TACO is already laying the groundwork for an off ramp after realising that regime change isn't as easy as he thought after being played like a fiddle and groomed by Bibi.ย 

No doubt he'll tell the gullible idiots in his base that it's a huge victory when in reality it'll be a botched attempt at regime change and a big fat L.ย ย 

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Israel threatens to take Lebanese territory as it ramps up Beirut bombing in escalating war

It is almost a side note but Israel has been escalating attacks on Lebanon, most recently central Beirut - this is following Hezbollah missiles fired into Israel.

Apprarently over 600 people have been killed (1500 injured) in Lebanon - I think that's just in the last week and a half - that would surely be more prominent news if not for Iran.

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23 minutes ago, exile said:

Israel threatens to take Lebanese territory as it ramps up Beirut bombing in escalating war

It is almost a side note but Israel has been escalating attacks on Lebanon, most recently central Beirut - this is following Hezbollah missiles fired into Israel.

Apprarently over 600 people have been killed (1500 injured) in Lebanon - I think that's just in the last week and a half - that would surely be more prominent news if not for Iran.

I remember watching something a little while back and it was said about 20% of Lebanon's population were refugees. Now add 600 -700,000 internally placed people and it puts UK debates about immigration into a very different perspective.

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4 minutes ago, Hertsscot said:

I remember watching something a little while back and it was said about 20% of Lebanon's population were refugees. Now add 600 -700,000 internally placed people and it puts UK debates about immigration into a very different perspective.

I read something similar several years ago. Population of approximately 5m at the time and about 1m refugees mostly from Syria.ย 

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Trump says NATO face a โ€œvery badโ€ future if his proposal for a military operation in the strait received no response or a negative one.

Posted
33 minutes ago, exile said:

Trump says NATO face a โ€œvery badโ€ future if his proposal for a military operation in the strait received no response or a negative one.

He doesn't even know what it stands for (in both senses!).ย 

Posted
2 hours ago, StirlingEgg said:

He doesn't even know what it stands for (in both senses!).ย 


I think itโ€™s a fair shout. ย If we donโ€™t help America why the fuck should they help us if it comes to it.

Posted (edited)
29 minutes ago, Malcolm said:


I think itโ€™s a fair shout. ย If we donโ€™t help America why the fuck should they help us if it comes to it.

Excuse me?

Remind me what happened when UN countries asked US for help with the war in Ukraine. No military help of any note came. In fact Trump was more willing to appease Putin.

Iran are a weak, feeble country who have not invaded their neighbours yet US are bombing the shit out of them. Russia are a military power and have invaded a neighbouring country and Trump shoos away from any action.

Go figure.

Hypocrisy of the most supreme order.

Also, if I were Starmer I'd just tell Trump I don't want my troops dying for a US cause and then years down the line their deaths being minimal used by a future president as them not playing any real part at all.

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34 minutes ago, Malcolm said:


I think itโ€™s a fair shout. ย If we donโ€™t help America why the fuck should they help us if it comes to it.

Anyone that doesn't think that Trump is a fucking imbecile by now needs to look in the mirrorย 

Imagine attacking Iran with either no cunt of a plan or a right bad plan drawn up by Israelย 

How the fuck nobody mentioned the Straits of Hormuz as soon as Trump sent the aircraft carrier to the middle east is fucking mind bogglingย 

And everyone that says the comparisons of Trump and Hitler are ludicrous have a right long re read of their history booksย 

Both were fucking hopeless military strategists that carried a lot of luck until it eventually ran outย 

Starmer is a useless fanny but at least he sees this for what it isย 

Posted
49 minutes ago, Malcolm said:


I think itโ€™s a fair shout. ย If we donโ€™t help America why the fuck should they help us if it comes to it.

For all the normal reasons a country intervenes in another part of the world. Because it's in their interests.

Like, America helped drive the Nazis out of western Europe because if they didn't, the whole of Europe would belong to the Red Army, and they didn't want that. Or Britain helped to defend France from Nazis on similar basis; it didn't mean we'd expect France to help us in the cod war or whatever. USA didn't help UK fight Nasser, it wasn't in their interests. USA didn't help UK fight Argentina in the Falklands, whileย French who fought with us in Egypt were arming/assisting the Argentinians, and so on.

It doesn't mean we should get involved in every grubby little war the Americans think is in their interests.ย 

Posted
1 hour ago, Malcolm said:


I think itโ€™s a fair shout. ย If we donโ€™t help America why the fuck should they help us if it comes to it.

I'll ask you again. What do you think of Tony Blair?

Some people have spent the past twenty years calling him a war criminal.

Posted
10 hours ago, Malcolm said:


I think itโ€™s a fair shout. ย If we donโ€™t help America why the fuck should they help us if it comes to it.

You might have trouble rolling your sleeves up in that tailored tweed jacket.ย 

Posted (edited)
10 hours ago, Malcolm said:


I think itโ€™s a fair shout. ย If we donโ€™t help America why the fuck should they help us if it comes to it.

You remember Afghanistan after 9/11? Help was given and many European NATO soldiers lost their lives but TACO conveniently forgets to mention that.

Iran have been on the hit list for many years and this war was bought by Israel through AIPAC and their bankrolling of Trump's election campaign. Now American taxpayers are footing the rest of the bill.

I'm no fan of Starmer who is generally weak and ineffective but he's got this call absolutely right which is contrast to Farage and Badenoch who would have dragged us in from the start despite some recent backpedalling.

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10 hours ago, Rich NATA said:

I'll ask you again. What do you think of Tony Blair?

Some people have spent the past twenty years calling him a war criminal.


I donโ€™t really like Tony Blair but he is not a war criminal. ย for a Labour leader at least he generated some economic growth.

Posted
45 minutes ago, Malcolm said:


I donโ€™t really like Tony Blair but he is not a war criminal. ย for a Labour leader at least he generated some economic growth.

He went to war based on blanant lies - what do you consider to be a war criminal?ย 

Did he leave Iraq (and Afghan) in a better state than before they went in? Nope, they helped create terror cells and were the best recruitment drive they ever had.ย 

As for Trump, amazing how he's going cap in hand to other countries now even though his war was won last week? Almost like he's not got a fucking clue what is going on.ย 

Let America go alone with Israel and they can have Vietnam II.ย 

i'd be more than happy for us to stay well out of it, i'm sure the vast majority of the sane population think likewise. As will be the case in Germany, Japan, France etc.ย 

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Squirrelhumper said:

Did he leave Iraq (and Afghan) in a better state than before they went in? Nope, they helped create terror cells and were the best recruitment drive they ever had.ย 

This is a very important point. Some people seem to think the whole region will be some kind of peace paradise after the Iranian regime have been toppled. It's pure fantasy. War and terrorism are both nailed on for another few decades. There is already growing talk of Tรผrkiye being next on Israel & America's list.ย 

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13 hours ago, Caledonian Craig said:

Excuse me?

Remind me what happened when UN countries asked US for help with the war in Ukraine. No military help of any note came. In fact Trump was more willing to appease Putin.

Iran are a weak, feeble country who have not invaded their neighbours yet US are bombing the shit out of them. Russia are a military power and have invaded a neighbouring country and Trump shoos away from any action.

Go figure.

Hypocrisy of the most supreme order.

Also, if I were Starmer I'd just tell Trump I don't want my troops dying for a US cause and then years down the line their deaths being minimal used by a future president as them not playing any real part at all.

I am no trump fan and everyone knows he isn't going after Iran our some act of kindness, however Iran may not have invaded their neighbours but don't they fund Hezbollah and Hamas? Israel are Iran's neighbours and Iran are funding two terrorist organisations who want Israel wiped off the map.ย 

Its a real head scratcher for everyone because we can all agree Trump isn't some super hero with a heart of gold but Iran are no angels, especially when it comes to their own people

Posted
2 hours ago, Malcolm said:


I donโ€™t really like Tony Blair but he is not a war criminal. ย for a Labour leader at least he generated some economic growth.

Tony Blair, WMD war mongering devil ๐Ÿ˜ˆย 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Malcolm said:


Stoning women and throwing gays off high buildings is not very nice. ย Imagine what they would do with nukes.

Throwing people off of high buildings happens every other day in Russia, usually to Putins ex friends. Not heard you condemning that ๐Ÿค”

Posted
2 minutes ago, RDFH64 said:

Throwing people off of high buildings happens every other day in Russia, usually to Putins ex friends. Not heard you condemning that ๐Ÿค”


I donโ€™t agree with that either.

never liked Iranโ€ฆ. ย Looked a nice place in the 70sโ€ฆ decent football team.

these radical islamists have ruined it for me.

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