Scottish Parliament Election: 7 May 2026

[kumnio]

2 minutes ago, vanderark14 said:

Not sure if malky boy is on the wind up tonight or just making a cunt of it 😂 

He is definitely fishing.

[Orraloon]

8 minutes ago, vanderark14 said:

Not sure if malky boy is on the wind up tonight or just making a cunt of it 😂 

I'm very sure. 👍

[exile]

2 hours ago, Malcolm said:

so you think that the SNP should no longer stand or vote in westminster then?

 

Ha ha, nice try to turn it into an SNP bad issue. As you must surely know, the SNP traditionally does not vote on issues that only affect England. In contrast, successive generations of Scottish Labour and Conservative MPs have traipsed through the lobbies to impose on England policies that don't apply in their own constituencies.

And I take it, from your response, that you would be happy, in principle, for a foreign-born and foreign-domiciled MP to vote in pro-immigration laws, as long as local constituents voted for it?

[Malcolm]

34 minutes ago, exile said:

Ha ha, nice try to turn it into an SNP bad issue. As you must surely know, the SNP traditionally does not vote on issues that only affect England. In contrast, successive generations of Scottish Labour and Conservative MPs have traipsed through the lobbies to impose on England policies that don't apply in their own constituencies.

And I take it, from your response, that you would be happy, in principle, for a foreign-born and foreign-domiciled MP to vote in pro-immigration laws, as long as local constituents voted for it?

yes I would as that would be democratic.  And that’s partly why we must ensure that we limit multiculturalism.

 

 

[exile]

1 hour ago, Malcolm said:

yes I would as that would be democratic.  And that’s partly why we must ensure that we limit multiculturalism.

 

 

What do you mean by 'limit multiculturalism'? Prevent the free choice of people to identify with non-British cultures? Or do you mean limit immigration?

Edited March 26 by exile

[Malcolm]

1 hour ago, exile said:

What do you mean by 'limit multiculturalism'? Prevent the free choice of people to identify with non-British cultures? Or do you mean limit immigration?

The latter

[Toepoke]

Shocked I tell ye, shocked...

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/reform-uks-holyrood-campaign-meltdown-36931899

 

[hampden_loon2878]

What’s the deal with the SNP Shetland candidates for holyrood, they are always really good candidates, but the chances of them getting in are slim. They should stand in other constituencies 

[hampden_loon2878]

A screeching u turn on North Sea oil and gas coming from swinney before that idiot Milliband is forced into it, shocked I tell you, all the damage to our Economy and independence case could have been avoided,, 

[Caledonian Craig]

55 minutes ago, hampden_loon2878 said:

A screeching u turn on North Sea oil and gas coming from swinney before that idiot Milliband is forced into it, shocked I tell you, all the damage to our Economy and independence case could have been avoided,, 

Big differences on reasons.

Tories have always wanted the oil to ram the proceeds into Westminster coffers fuck all else. SNP recognise fuel crisis and are now considering a change of tact.

What I would say is that there is a huge amount of denyers around the world about climate change despite the glaring clues. Far more extreme weather patterns that I have not seen in my lifetime, global average temperatures continuously on the rise year on year, clear and obvious melting of the polar icecaps, rising sea levels, more droughts globally. That is the sensible stance the SNP took on drilling for oil. Those in denial because they fear it will affect their high octane lifestyle and end financial gains.

I will add this. Denying something isn't true for lack of evidence is daft. Many decried many medicines as witchcraft centuries ago since proven to work. Many laughed at (and still do) at the effects of passive smoking but it exists. Many disbelieved the affect heading footballs have on players long term even when more and more ex players are found to have dementia.

Edited April 2 by Caledonian Craig

[hampden_loon2878]

30 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said:

Big differences on reasons.

Tories have always wanted the oil to ram the proceeds into Westminster coffers fuck all else. SNP recognise fuel crisis and are now considering a change of tact.

What I would say is that there is a huge amount of denyers around the world about climate change despite the glaring clues. Far more extreme weather patterns that I have not seen in my lifetime, global average temperatures continuously on the rise year on year, clear and obvious melting of the polar icecaps, rising sea levels, more droughts globally. That is the sensible stance the SNP took on drilling for oil. Those in denial because they fear it will affect their high octane lifestyle and end financial gains.

I will add this. Denying something isn't true for lack of evidence is daft. Many decried many medicines as witchcraft centuries ago since proven to work. Many laughed at (and still do) at the effects of passive smoking but it exists. Many disbelieved the affect heading footballs have on players long term even when more and more ex players are found to have dementia.

https://www.livescience.com/planet-earth/antarctica/nasa-satellites-show-antarctica-has-gained-ice-despite-rising-global-temperatures-how-is-that-possible
 

it all goes in cycles 

[hampden_loon2878]

Until we stop importing oil and gas, domestic reserves should be exploited, it’s common sense 

[Caledonian Craig]

5 hours ago, hampden_loon2878 said:

https://www.livescience.com/planet-earth/antarctica/nasa-satellites-show-antarctica-has-gained-ice-despite-rising-global-temperatures-how-is-that-possible
 

it all goes in cycles 

Sorry but just no. But of course those happy to burn the oil are happy in the knowledge the damage being down right now they will not be around to savour the full consequences.

I trust scientists on this way above those with an agenda shit-scared they will lose a revenue source.

[hampden_loon2878]

3 hours ago, Caledonian Craig said:

Sorry but just no. But of course those happy to burn the oil are happy in the knowledge the damage being down right now they will not be around to savour the full consequences.

I trust scientists on this way above those with an agenda shit-scared they will lose a revenue source.

everyone trusted those scientists during covid 

[hampden_loon2878]

scientists are not required for common sense, having our own domestic supply of oil and gas instead of importing is common sense 

[exile]

41 minutes ago, hampden_loon2878 said:

scientists are not required for common sense, having our own domestic supply of oil and gas instead of importing is common sense 

I agree that political decisions on what to do or prioritise are a matter of politics. But politicians should know what the science is telling us.

[exile]

48 minutes ago, hampden_loon2878 said:

everyone trusted those scientists during covid 

Not sure what that's supposed to mean. Science told us what COVID is and how transmitted and developed a vaccine. Politicians sometimes ignored the science, or acted (had to act) beyond what science could tell us. Politicians also had to make decisions on who to protect, compensate, ban from travel, or choose health over economy etc. 

[phart]

10 hours ago, hampden_loon2878 said:

https://www.livescience.com/planet-earth/antarctica/nasa-satellites-show-antarctica-has-gained-ice-despite-rising-global-temperatures-how-is-that-possible
 

it all goes in cycles 

You need to read that article cause it says the amount of ice is down drastically when measured over the last few decades , although a couple of times it went up due to specific weather patterns. Also a period of stable of temperatures locally while the Artic has 4 times the increased temperature, measured against the mean. 

It doesn't say anything about cycles or what "it" is. It says sea ice hit an all time low in 2023 as well. In fact it paints a desolate picture which only had a temporary reprieve due to a few local anomalies which haven't persisted and any gains have already been wiped out in the succeeding years as shown by new data. 

Edited April 3 by phart

[TDYER63]

1 hour ago, phart said:

You need to read that article cause it says the amount of ice is down drastically when measured over the last few decades , although a couple of times it went up due to specific weather patterns. Also a period of stable of temperatures locally while the Artic has 4 times the increased temperature, measured against the mean. 

It doesn't say anything about cycles or what "it" is. It says sea ice hit an all time low in 2023 as well. In fact it paints a desolate picture which only had a temporary reprieve due to a few local anomalies which haven't persisted and any gains have already been wiped out in the succeeding years as shown by new data. 

I read that last night and also felt that it painted a grim picture but I wasn’t confident enough of my interpretation to challenge Loon. 

[hampden_loon2878]

5 hours ago, TDYER63 said:

I read that last night and also felt that it painted a grim picture but I wasn’t confident enough of my interpretation to challenge Loon. 

it was more that the scientist have no idea what is driving the shifts in climate,,the SNP stance on domestic oil and gas has been idiotic, i am sure we can all agree on that part of the discussing? not that any other unionist parties stance is any better, the snp are there to protect Scotland from shit policies that Westminster want to impose, put some resistance up, instead on this occasion they surrendered their historical stance for gesture politics..

[scotlad]

23 minutes ago, hampden_loon2878 said:

it was more that the scientist have no idea what is driving the shifts in climate,,the SNP stance on domestic oil and gas has been idiotic, i am sure we can all agree on that part of the discussing? not that any other unionist parties stance is any better, the snp are there to protect Scotland from shit policies that Westminster want to impose, put some resistance up, instead on this occasion they surrendered their historical stance for gesture politics..

It is completely idiotic. Shutting down North Sea oil and gas production won't make one iota of difference IRO of global warming for as long as the likes of China, Russia, the US and the Gulf States continue to exploit fossil fuels. It will, however, have a huge negative effect on Scotland, both economically and socially, on a par potentially with the closure of heavy industries in the central belt the 1980s and 1990s.  

[Ally Bongo]

 

[Caledonian Craig]

4 hours ago, hampden_loon2878 said:

it was more that the scientist have no idea what is driving the shifts in climate,,the SNP stance on domestic oil and gas has been idiotic, i am sure we can all agree on that part of the discussing? not that any other unionist parties stance is any better, the snp are there to protect Scotland from shit policies that Westminster want to impose, put some resistance up, instead on this occasion they surrendered their historical stance for gesture politics..

Oh please. You do scientists a massive disservice. They have explained what is driving climate change but the simple-minded cannot comprehend/understand or accept it.

[hampden_loon2878]

4 hours ago, scotlad said:

It is completely idiotic. Shutting down North Sea oil and gas production won't make one iota of difference IRO of global warming for as long as the likes of China, Russia, the US and the Gulf States continue to exploit fossil fuels. It will, however, have a huge negative effect on Scotland, both economically and socially, on a par potentially with the closure of heavy industries in the central belt the 1980s and 1990s.  

It’s sabotage of the SNP 

[hampden_loon2878]

12 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said:

Oh please. You do scientists a massive disservice. They have explained what is driving climate change but the simple-minded cannot comprehend/understand or accept it.

Believe what you want, and I will believe what I want 👍