Andy of Lochcarron Posted January 7 Posted January 7 On 1/5/2026 at 9:31 AM, Squirrelhumper said: The Greenland thing would/will have far more consequences on the WC than Venezuela. Not even the uk could pretend nothing had happened. Totally agree….. Quote
Malcolm Posted January 7 Posted January 7 The World Cup will not be boycotted even if USA took Greenland, which they won’t. Quote
Ally Bongo Posted January 7 Posted January 7 32 minutes ago, Malcolm said: The World Cup will not be boycotted even if USA took Greenland, The bookies will give you great odds on that scenario Because it will ....by a country fucking mile It wont be the associations that boycott it - it will be their relevant governments that ban all travel to the USA And any association that flaunts this would not be seen in a grand light Quote
Malcolm Posted January 7 Posted January 7 21 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: The bookies will give you great odds on that scenario Because it will ....by a country fucking mile It wont be the associations that boycott it - it will be their relevant governments that ban all travel to the USA And any association that flaunts this would not be seen in a grand light we all turned up in Argentina when they were dropping their own citizens out of the sky on death flights. The argies were also not banned in 1982 when they invaded the United Kingdon. Quote
Ally Bongo Posted January 7 Posted January 7 31 minutes ago, Malcolm said: we all turned up in Argentina when they were dropping their own citizens out of the sky on death flights. The argies were also not banned in 1982 when they invaded the United Kingdon. Completely different scenarios which you are no doubt aware and why i cant be arsed explaining it Quote
Rich NATA Posted January 7 Posted January 7 If it happens, I foresee Infantino telling everybody to keep football separate from politics, which will be ironic. Quote
Malcolm Posted January 7 Posted January 7 39 minutes ago, Rich NATA said: If it happens, I foresee Infantino telling everybody to keep football separate from politics, which will be ironic. thats exactly what Johnny Infantino will do Quote
GaryWood34 Posted January 7 Posted January 7 (edited) Not proud of this, but I cant foresee any political scenario that would keep me from going to this World Cup. Nothing. Edited January 7 by GaryWood34 Quote
TDYER63 Posted January 7 Posted January 7 1 hour ago, Rich NATA said: If it happens, I foresee Infantino telling everybody to keep football separate from politics, which will be ironic. Trump is a fucking dangerous lunatic and I honestly don’t know what it will take for people to acknowledge this. The ridiculous WC draw and peace prize was the point where politics and football became one. Quote
Toepoke Posted January 7 Posted January 7 On 1/3/2026 at 5:20 PM, AAAfather said: Typical Scotland - we qualify for a world cup and it possibly doesn't happen! No heartbreaking exit on the field at least. Forget geopolitics, some of Trump's Scottish employees need to emphasise the seriousness of him denying the Tartan Army their trip to the World Cup! Quote
mccaughey85 Posted January 7 Posted January 7 10 hours ago, Malcolm said: The World Cup will not be boycotted even if USA took Greenland, which they won’t. Disagree. The world cup would be boycotted by most of the European countries if that happened. I would expect Scotland to pull out instantly. Quote
Ally Bongo Posted January 7 Posted January 7 7 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: Disagree. The world cup would be boycotted by most of the European countries if that happened. I would expect Scotland to pull out instantly. Since Malcolm brought it up - The SFA were the first to lick Maggie Thatcher's arse when her Government suggested Scotland, England and Northern Ireland boycotted the 1982 World Cup due to Argentina's participation They publically stated they would pull out if that's what the Government wanted - no questions asked The irony is that whilst the Thatcher Government were considering a boycott along with potential problems if any of the home Nations were drawn against Argentina it was brought to their attention that England and Northern Ireland could only meet them in the final whereas Scotland could be drawn against them if they got out the group stages They all had a massive laugh and said there was no chance of either scenario happening Quote
er yir macaroon Posted January 8 Posted January 8 It’s horrendous to think that Trump is eligible for the Scotland squad. I suppose his vile presence could be enough to deter opposition forwards if he was put in goal. Quote
exile Posted January 8 Posted January 8 19 hours ago, Goozay said: I think Trump doesn't care about or see the need or benefit of NATO, or the European members of NATO at least. He sees the world as having three superpowers with strongman leaders. He's happy for Russia and China to dominate their neighbouring countries, as long as the United States can dominate the Americas plus Greenland. Sounds like Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia (1984). Quote
exile Posted January 8 Posted January 8 18 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: The bookies will give you great odds on that scenario Because it will ....by a country fucking mile It wont be the associations that boycott it - it will be their relevant governments that ban all travel to the USA And any association that flaunts this would not be seen in a grand light Government in our case being the UK government? Quote
Burj_Alba Posted January 8 Posted January 8 10 hours ago, Toepoke said: No heartbreaking exit on the field at least. Forget geopolitics, some of Trump's Scottish employees need to emphasise the seriousness of him denying the Tartan Army their trip to the World Cup! Don't think Trump has ever listen to an employee ( or anyone else really) in his puff so that's a non starter Quote
Ally Bongo Posted January 8 Posted January 8 54 minutes ago, exile said: Government in our case being the UK government? As these things are reserved yes No doubt John Swinney will make some sort of statement that holds no weight Quote
StirlingEgg Posted January 8 Posted January 8 I know people will already have committed financially and emotionally but I don't think it's safe to go to this world cup. Too many risk factors whether it's someone deciding to take their grievance onto the world stage and shoot a load of folk or fans getting detained and no real relationship between the UK and US to help sort it out. It's scary too how much more damage Trump and those egging him on can do before the World Cup starts. Apologies for the negativity and What Ifs but can't shake the feeling of impending doom. Quote
Squirrelhumper Posted January 8 Posted January 8 On 1/7/2026 at 8:45 AM, er yir macaroon said: Most likely some kind of lease deal will be agreed for sections of Greenland. If Greenland is taken by force, then that would precipitate the immediate dissolution of NATO and probably widespread military conscription in European countries (including the UK) due to a real or imagined threat from Russia. I don’t think the World Cup would even go head in those circumstances and certainly not in the US. US already have a deal to have as many airbases etc as they need. Anything else is US trying to secure the minerals under the pretence of national security. Quote
er yir macaroon Posted January 8 Posted January 8 27 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: US already have a deal to have as many airbases etc as they need. Anything else is US trying to secure the minerals under the pretence of national security. I know about the bases. You are probably right, it is about money. No way will I be going to the USA now. I don't fancy getting shot in the face or arrested for saying the wrong thing. The UK not much better on the latter point. The world is totally fucked. Quote
Squirrelhumper Posted January 8 Posted January 8 19 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said: I know about the bases. You are probably right, it is about money. No way will I be going to the USA now. I don't fancy getting shot in the face or arrested for saying the wrong thing. The UK not much better on the latter point. The world is totally fucked. As much as the UK is a shit show, we are nowhere near as bad a police state as the states. Quote
er yir macaroon Posted January 8 Posted January 8 8 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: As much as the UK is a shit show, we are nowhere near as bad a police state as the states. Maybe not in practice, but there is provision for a 10 year jail sentence if a police officer thinks you are causing a public nuisance. Quote
Bzzzz Posted January 8 Posted January 8 On 1/5/2026 at 9:31 AM, Squirrelhumper said: The Greenland thing would/will have far more consequences on the WC than Venezuela. Not even the uk could pretend nothing had happened. You think? that shower of gutless shitebags in the govt in England can and probably would do absolutely nothing. "We" are not in the EU remember... recent memory would suggest that nobody can be trusted to do the right or the sensible thing. Quote
Goozay Posted January 8 Posted January 8 3 hours ago, exile said: Sounds like Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia (1984). Aye. It's disheartening to see Nineteen Eighty Four being used as a blueprint for government, instead of a dystopian warning. Quote
Goozay Posted January 8 Posted January 8 2 hours ago, StirlingEgg said: I know people will already have committed financially and emotionally but I don't think it's safe to go to this world cup. Too many risk factors whether it's someone deciding to take their grievance onto the world stage and shoot a load of folk or fans getting detained and no real relationship between the UK and US to help sort it out. It's scary too how much more damage Trump and those egging him on can do before the World Cup starts. Apologies for the negativity and What Ifs but can't shake the feeling of impending doom. For me, not much has changed since we qualified. I'd have preferred our games to be in Canada or Mexico, but I knew when the draw was made that the Trump administration was more than capable of these things. I'm not surprised by recent events and I'm still going to the World Cup. Quote
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