wee_ando Posted February 19 Posted February 19 3 minutes ago, bdgsct said: Even 30,000 Scots travelling shouldn't be enough to drive prices above £800. Which means, 1. there is either huge local demand to go to the game. 2. there is a shortage of supply and tickets are being withheld. 3. Speculators are in the market hoping to make a quick buck. 4. A mixture of the above I think you are all seriously underestimating the draw of the World Cup… as well as locals you will have anyone who booked a stay in a host city and applied for all the games while they are there. I went to st Petersburg for just over a week in 2018, got tickets to Brazil v Costa Rica and Argentina v Nigeria (bought before the draw so got lucky). the pricing seems absurd to us and the Europeans, but is very much in the normal range for sporting events for them. A lot of Americans will view this as a once in a lifetime chance (over 30 years since the last one, and probably don’t follow football enough to realise FIFA are fixing it so it will be back in just over a decade…) Quote
bdgsct Posted February 19 Posted February 19 13 minutes ago, wee_ando said: I think you are all seriously underestimating the draw of the World Cup… as well as locals you will have anyone who booked a stay in a host city and applied for all the games while they are there. I went to st Petersburg for just over a week in 2018, got tickets to Brazil v Costa Rica and Argentina v Nigeria (bought before the draw so got lucky). the pricing seems absurd to us and the Europeans, but is very much in the normal range for sporting events for them. A lot of Americans will view this as a once in a lifetime chance (over 30 years since the last one, and probably don’t follow football enough to realise FIFA are fixing it so it will be back in just over a decade…) If it is genuine demand from those looking to attend both locally and from abroad then the market won't come down. I have my doubts. Despite the draw of 'The World Cup', I don't see neutrals getting much more excited about Croatia v Panama than they did for Flemengo v Chelsea in the club world cup which didn't sell out with tickets available at a tenth of the price. It will be interesting to see what happens. Quote
Craig Fae Hamilton Posted February 19 Author Posted February 19 (edited) A new slant on whether Ticket Prices will Rise/Fall/Stay Steady. I have 4 Tickets still to buy hence my infatuation with where this is going. 2 for Haiti and 2 for Morocco if anybody has any to shift at face value. Anyway, fast forward to Boston South Station. It's Match Day. 10 Hours before Scotland are due to Kick Off v Haiti. 1 Hour before th 1st Special Event Train is due out the Stadium going to the Gillette Stadium. You are kilted up and ready to go, but, you don't have a ticket. You stand with a sign saying "$1500 for ANY 2 TICKETS"........ Do you get 2? That price is currently 25% below the cheapest available tickets currently on FIFA. If it;s a yes, you think prices will fall. If you're a NO, you think prices will retain their current values. Personally, I think it's just a matter of how much they go down. Edited February 19 by Craig Fae Hamilton Quote
AlfieMoon Posted February 19 Posted February 19 (edited) The only facts we know is that Scotland games are currently selling on resale at higher than many other games. People are buying. You only need to look on here, facebook, or twitter to see Scots buying tickets. That shows that there is demand driving this currently - and that's only from our side before we consider our opponents. Granted there are some games that are selling even higher than our resale prices of Haiti/Morocco - see Brazil (and other games). So it's not just a matter of those prices sitting ridiculously high and nobody willing to bite. I think we're a huge ex-pat draw, and the SSC application numbers show that there's large numbers willing to travel. I honestly have no idea how it's going to go but really hope that there's a flood of tickets on the market after the resale portal opens in early-April which hopefully at least reduces the seller markup. Edited February 19 by AlfieMoon Quote
uber_shnuber Posted February 19 Posted February 19 51 minutes ago, Craig Fae Hamilton said: Personally, I think it's just a matter of how much they go down. I agree with that. I just don't think they are going to drop by anything like as much as people are hoping. I'd be absolutely amazed if many/any tickets for the majority of the games change hands for anything under the RSD prices. Obviously a handful of games will drop lower but can't see it being many, and not the Scotland games. For anyone wanting to dive deeper into the pricing: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1n7LgoxxJEQPNA7Zqdu8Ds4EfwbdWzvKpJRNLN7Oj9Ys/edit?gid=0#gid=0 FIFA will have done their homework and will have all the data from the early sales and have adjusted prices already on the back of that. Of course this is just my opinion, and we'll just have to wait and see! Good luck all! Quote
uber_shnuber Posted February 19 Posted February 19 5 minutes ago, AlfieMoon said: The only facts we know is that Scotland games are currently selling on resale at higher than many other games. People are buying. You only need to look on here, facebook, or twitter to see Scots buying tickets. That shows that there is demand driving this currently - and that's only from our side before we consider our opponents. Granted there are some games that are selling even higher than our resale prices of Haiti/Morocco - see Brazil (and other games). So it's not just a matter of those prices sitting ridiculously high and nobody willing to bite. I think we're a huge ex-pat draw, and the SSC application numbers show that there's large numbers willing to travel. I honestly have no idea how it's going to go but really hope that there's a flood of tickets on the market after the resale portal opens in early-April which hopefully at least reduces the seller markup. I'd imagine the majority of those who always intended to resell their tickets have already added them to the marketplace in the hope of offloading before the marketplace closes. Whilst prices are high I can't see why you wouldn't - nobody knows what prices the tickets will sit at when the marketplace reopens. Lots of games (particularly those with a "big" name) no longer say "limited availability" on the FIFA Resale, suggesting there has been a fair few tickets added to the marketplace since the recent draw results (and you would assume those out to make a few bucks would target the bigger teams). Interestingly, all 3x Scotland games still say Limited. Totally agree re supply/demand. This is current market value, and can't see it changing hugely, unless there is a big influx of additional tickets that hit the resales (which there might be) or we get much closer to the time and people get desperate to offload (which I don't think will be huge numbers). This isn't the scalpers first rodeo. Quote
AlfieMoon Posted February 19 Posted February 19 29 minutes ago, uber_shnuber said: I'd imagine the majority of those who always intended to resell their tickets have already added them to the marketplace in the hope of offloading before the marketplace closes. Whilst prices are high I can't see why you wouldn't - nobody knows what prices the tickets will sit at when the marketplace reopens. Lots of games (particularly those with a "big" name) no longer say "limited availability" on the FIFA Resale, suggesting there has been a fair few tickets added to the marketplace since the recent draw results (and you would assume those out to make a few bucks would target the bigger teams). Interestingly, all 3x Scotland games still say Limited. Totally agree re supply/demand. This is current market value, and can't see it changing hugely, unless there is a big influx of additional tickets that hit the resales (which there might be) or we get much closer to the time and people get desperate to offload (which I don't think will be huge numbers). This isn't the scalpers first rodeo. I think that for a 65k seater stadium, coupled with the scalping culture of US sports market - there will be a decent supply stream of resale tickets. It's just a question of how high the demand will be. Quote
uber_shnuber Posted February 19 Posted February 19 Infantino reckons it's sold out... That might dampen the idea that lots of tickets have been held back for the Last Minute Sale; as I said previously, I think this will only be a handful of tickets - returned corporate/failed payments etc... https://www.msn.com/en-my/news/other/all-world-cup-matches-sold-out-says-fifa-s-infantino/ar-AA1WCkzH Quote
uber_shnuber Posted February 19 Posted February 19 (edited) 14 minutes ago, uber_shnuber said: Infantino reckons it's sold out... That might dampen the idea that lots of tickets have been held back for the Last Minute Sale; as I said previously, I think this will only be a handful of tickets - returned corporate/failed payments etc... https://www.msn.com/en-my/news/other/all-world-cup-matches-sold-out-says-fifa-s-infantino/ar-AA1WCkzH Found the full interview: https://www.cnbc.com/video/2026/02/18/fifa-president-on-2026-world-cup-never-seen-as-much-demand-for-tickets.html I just watched it and interestingly he does say "some" tickets were held back for the Last Minute Sale (no indication of how many though). But also, that 77/104 matches had over 1 million applications! Edited February 19 by uber_shnuber Quote
AlfieMoon Posted February 19 Posted February 19 33 minutes ago, uber_shnuber said: Found the full interview: https://www.cnbc.com/video/2026/02/18/fifa-president-on-2026-world-cup-never-seen-as-much-demand-for-tickets.html I just watched it and interestingly he does say "some" tickets were held back for the Last Minute Sale (no indication of how many though). But also, that 77/104 matches had over 1 million applications! With that sort of demand, you'd have to question why any were held back for the Last Minute Sale, or why. Some of this doesn't add up and he's the last person I'd be trusting a word that he says. Honestly no idea what to expect. Quote
Souness Posted February 19 Posted February 19 Prices may come down, likely to, but I'd be surprised if anything goes below FV. I know a dozen or so folk who applied for tickets in the SSC ballot or fifa ballot who won feck all, who have since purchased on the secondary market. I doubt people want any last minute panicking and spending hours pressing F5 in the hope for a ticket. Quote
Up and Doune Posted February 19 Posted February 19 9 hours ago, Craig Fae Hamilton said: A new slant on whether Ticket Prices will Rise/Fall/Stay Steady. I have 4 Tickets still to buy hence my infatuation with where this is going. 2 for Haiti and 2 for Morocco if anybody has any to shift at face value. Anyway, fast forward to Boston South Station. It's Match Day. 10 Hours before Scotland are due to Kick Off v Haiti. 1 Hour before th 1st Special Event Train is due out the Stadium going to the Gillette Stadium. You are kilted up and ready to go, but, you don't have a ticket. You stand with a sign saying "$1500 for ANY 2 TICKETS"........ Do you get 2? That price is currently 25% below the cheapest available tickets currently on FIFA. If it;s a yes, you think prices will fall. If you're a NO, you think prices will retain their current values. Personally, I think it's just a matter of how much they go down. So you and 5 thousand other Scots are standing at South Station with a sign offering $1.5k for 2 tickets who do you expect to sell you tickets? How many people have bought 2 tickets @$500 each and held on to them for 5 months until match day to sell them for $500 profit? Why did they not bother to sell them on FIFA’s MarketPlace for a similar profit? Like you I’m fascinated by the market and what prices do. Obviously none of us truly can predict what might happen but my personal opinion is people who expect tickets to fall significantly in price are being very optimistic. Judging by people’s posts and my own experiences it fells like 90% of Random Ballot allocations for CAT1 tickets failed. There is clearly way more demand than supply. Why would FIFA reject people offering $600 for CAT1 tickets now only to sell them for less on match day? Why would scalpers buy tickets at $600 to sell them for a lose? I was ‘lucky’ and got CAT1 tickets for the Morocco games for not much over the 30% markup on MarketPlace. My personal opinion is prices will stay at what they are right now but the occasional genuine seller will offer tickets around FV but I’ll be amazed if many can now get tickets for less at FV+30%. Of course I genuinely hope every Scotland fan gets tickets at a price they are willing to pay but to me it’s priceless telling my kids there are GOING TO A WC TO WATCH SCOTLAND!!!! Quote
Souness Posted February 19 Posted February 19 4 minutes ago, Up and Doune said: So you and 5 thousand other Scots are standing at South Station with a sign offering $1.5k for 2 tickets who do you expect to sell you tickets? How many people have bought 2 tickets @$500 each and held on to them for 5 months until match day to sell them for $500 profit? Why did they not bother to sell them on FIFA’s MarketPlace for a similar profit? Like you I’m fascinated by the market and what prices do. Obviously none of us truly can predict what might happen but my personal opinion is people who expect tickets to fall significantly in price are being very optimistic. Judging by people’s posts and my own experiences it fells like 90% of Random Ballot allocations for CAT1 tickets failed. There is clearly way more demand than supply. Why would FIFA reject people offering $600 for CAT1 tickets now only to sell them for less on match day? Why would scalpers buy tickets at $600 to sell them for a lose? I was ‘lucky’ and got CAT1 tickets for the Morocco games for not much over the 30% markup on MarketPlace. My personal opinion is prices will stay at what they are right now but the occasional genuine seller will offer tickets around FV but I’ll be amazed if many can now get tickets for less at FV+30%. Of course I genuinely hope every Scotland fan gets tickets at a price they are willing to pay but to me it’s priceless telling my kids there are GOING TO A WC TO WATCH SCOTLAND!!!! Exactly. Its a case of getting now or waiting and missing out. Quote
Craig Fae Hamilton Posted February 20 Author Posted February 20 I really cannot see it. For Cat 1's in Haiti V Scotland and every other Match that is not a big draw to non Soccer fans and anybody not with an affiliation to the Teams involved. For there to be that many applications they must have went to Scalpers. And I imagine, they won't follow through with purchases. 500 Tickets x $500... What Scalpers on this planet would follow that application through with a $ 1/4 Millon Payment to FIFA for Scotland v Haiti? Point is these applications are spread across loads of applications. But the rationale stands. Even if a company has won 50 Tickets, are they really following it through with a $25,000 Payment to FIFA? To sell for FV +30% to get their money back on the Resell Marketplace? We will know better when we see the availability in the next Sales Phase. Prices will still be sky high though. But lots of availability across lots of games will only mean 1 thing. Quote
Souness Posted February 20 Posted February 20 (edited) 1 hour ago, Craig Fae Hamilton said: I really cannot see it. For Cat 1's in Haiti V Scotland and every other Match that is not a big draw to non Soccer fans and anybody not with an affiliation to the Teams involved. I think you underestimate how big a draw we are to Yanks. My AirBNB host (Boston) has just bought tickets on the resale site for both Haiti and Morocco games because of the anticipation and buzz about us being there for a week - I joked his increased prices paid for them. There'll be tickets popping up, but what does in the next round will get snapped up due to FOMO. Edited February 20 by Souness Quote
allan84 Posted February 20 Posted February 20 Guys I hate to say this but I dont think there is a chance in hell that anybody will get a ticket to any of our matches at under face value. There are so many non SSC members travelling in groups. My advice is to buy your tickets now and forget about all of the worry. Quote
Up and Doune Posted February 20 Posted February 20 @Craig Fae Hamilton I really hope you’re right but I’m not sure. Why would Scalpers apply for 500+ tickets only to not follow through and purchase them? FIFA clearly had lots of Scottish addresses they could have sold tickets too and didn’t. I’m not sure the 500m applications claim is legit but if what you say happens FIFA have scored a massive own goal not selling tickets to genuine fans for $500+ and having to sell them below that at a later date. USA 94 remains the WC with the highest average attendance (69K). Football has grown and the pricing structure has changed so there’s a number of variables that make it unpredictable. I guess we all pick our own strategy and hope for the best. Quote
allan84 Posted February 20 Posted February 20 How many of our own fans got lucky in the draw, bought 4 and sold 2 Brazil tickets for a grand each on the resale market? Quote
Craig Fae Hamilton Posted February 20 Author Posted February 20 22 minutes ago, allan84 said: How many of our own fans got lucky in the draw, bought 4 and sold 2 Brazil tickets for a grand each on the resale market? Almost none. For that to happen you would need to have won the tickets on the 1st Ticket Lottery or RSD. I am only aware os Souness and Myself winning Brazil tickets in those. His went to his old Man, mine to my Scottish Cousin in Toronto and Son. I think possibly some STC Tickets were bought by some fans not intending to go though? But it looks like they can't be resold after all (-: Quote
allan84 Posted February 20 Posted February 20 14 minutes ago, Craig Fae Hamilton said: Almost none. For that to happen you would need to have won the tickets on the 1st Ticket Lottery or RSD. I am only aware os Souness and Myself winning Brazil tickets in those. His went to his old Man, mine to my Scottish Cousin in Toronto and Son. I think possibly some STC Tickets were bought by some fans not intending to go though? But it looks like they can't be resold after all (-: All tickets can be sold, maybe not through the official resale platform but via tout sites. Are you talking about the follow my team tickets from the visa pre-sale? Those tickets can all be sold individually on the resale market for any price you want. Quote
Craig Fae Hamilton Posted February 20 Author Posted February 20 1 minute ago, allan84 said: All tickets can be sold, maybe not through the official resale platform but via tout sites. Are you talking about the follow my team tickets from the visa pre-sale? Those tickets can all be sold individually on the resale market for any price you want. Nah M8. I was talking the Ballot when you did not even know which teams were playing in the games, and the RSD. I don't think the STC Tickets can be re-sold? Or is it just FIFA they cannot be re-sold on? IF you can sell them on Tout sites, gauranteed there will be some STC tickets in there. Which is shit. Quote
allan84 Posted February 20 Posted February 20 The follow my team Scotland tickets(before we even knew we had made the WC) can be sold on the Fifa resale marketplace. I know an England fan that did this with tickets for our games and he made about 10 grand out it. The Visa pre-sale allowed people to buy up to 40 tickets(max 4 per game). Quote
Skyline Drifter Posted February 20 Posted February 20 40 minutes ago, Craig Fae Hamilton said: I don't think the STC Tickets can be re-sold? Or is it just FIFA they cannot be re-sold on? IF you can sell them on Tout sites, gauranteed there will be some STC tickets in there. Which is shit. Where's this coming from? FIFA themselves say categorically that they can. Quote
Craig Fae Hamilton Posted February 20 Author Posted February 20 17 minutes ago, Skyline Drifter said: Where's this coming from? FIFA themselves say categorically that they can. It was a discussion on here? I only glanced over it but the jist was that STC tickets could not be sold or transferred on the FIFA Platforms. I think it would be absolutely brilliant if any Members bought them with the intention of not actually going themselves and they lost their dough. Bit that aside, it would still be good to know if they can be transferred or sold for sure? Quote
Skyline Drifter Posted February 20 Posted February 20 31 minutes ago, Craig Fae Hamilton said: It was a discussion on here? I only glanced over it but the jist was that STC tickets could not be sold or transferred on the FIFA Platforms. I think it would be absolutely brilliant if any Members bought them with the intention of not actually going themselves and they lost their dough. Bit that aside, it would still be good to know if they can be transferred or sold for sure? Mmm I just logged in and had a look and it certainly doesn't seem to be letting me resell mine at this stage but I didn't want to get too detailed in case I accidentally DID resell them! It does say I've no tickets available for resell though despite having 6 tickets in my account. Not sure if the fact mine are linked to an Under 18 is potentially the reason though. Or if perhaps the PMA tickets can't be listed until everything is complete on their allocations (Cat 4's still being dealt with until Sunday). Perhaps they will only be resellable in the final phase of sales? Certainly FIFA's FAQ's still state categorically that they can be resold and the only issues are if the seller is in Mexico in which case they have to use the Mexican site instead and can't profit. No suggestion Scotland or anyone else are exempted from the ability to sell. Quote
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