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I agree to the extent that the 2 Tournhaments are not comparable. Any comparisons we could make will be diluted given the larger travelling support and the draw of the Tournament itself. But I don't think those 2 factors alone will totally negate 100% of every problem faced with the Club World Cup in America. When seats were going down to $12, that is huge.

I disagree on almost all Tickets being Sold. People losing out on the ballot does not neccessarily mean all tickets are sold. I don't think the market is there for American Consumers to sell out 104x 70,000 Seater Stadiums at Average prices of $4-600 per Seat.

If that is accepted then it can only be scalpers to lodge literally 20x more applications for tickets than the seats available in the RSD. That is the only numbers that woould explain the amount of applicants that were un-successful in the RSD. And I can't see them following through and paying for all the Cat 1 and possibly the Cat 2 Applications they made. Although resell prices justify it just now. They literally have until May to shift them or they are looking at serious losses. It took until May for them to reduce CWC Prices knowing that they had Stadiums at below 10% capacity. Only time will tell, but factors I am looking at are the number of tickets that are for sale in the LAST MINUTE Sales Phase. If there are CAT 3's for sale for a lot of games, they have MASSIVE problems. I do not think that will happen. But if there are a reasonable supply of CAT 2's available and Cat 1's for most games. We are going to see massive price drops.

On a side note, anybody see the Euro's plan for pricing. No details in terms of hard cash but looks a lot fairer:

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The belief that scalpers bought all the tickets is deeply flawed. Or if they did it's because they understand the market and demand.

Speculative scalpers i.e individuals looking to shift a few tickets on for a profit will have been put off by the category 2 and 1 prices. At the time of the sale the resale market wasn't significantly higher than these prices to make it a worthwhile potential upside. I'm sure plenty targeted category 3 for this but the category 3 allocation is so low it's not significant in terms of total tickets sold. 

Professional scalpers with armies of bots and deep pockets to outlay  thousands on many tickets will understand the market much better than us and will have DYOR prior to making that outlay. If they have secured large numbers of tickets it's because they know the resale market will largely hold. These people aren't daft and mass buying tickets that is likely to make a loss.

Tbh I'm amazed you still bumping your gums when almost everything stated to date has been proven to be false. 

There is high demand and pricing is being swallowed by market. This is almost irrefutable at this point. There will be people picking up tickets from now until the event some on favourable terms. I myself have secured Haiti cat 1 and Morocco cat 2 for 850 USD face value by crawling the sites and checking 20x a day for the last 2 months, so keep your chin up lads. Anyone expecting however for the arse to totally fall out of the market is deluded at this point. 

 

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11 hours ago, Craig Fae Hamilton said:

CAT 2's on FIFA for $732 this morning. (HAITI)

 

Too much for Me but if someone applied for a $500 Cat 1 and were un-successful, you maybe interested in this? That is the final price.

Just got a Cat 2 for Morrocco for that.
I'm paying for the comfort of knowing I'm going for the next few months. 100% mark up on face value, plus fees.
Think it was $600 for the cat 1 I didn't get in the ballot - so not a huge stretch. 

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12 minutes ago, Ripped Cords said:

Just got a Cat 2 for Morrocco for that.
I'm paying for the comfort of knowing I'm going for the next few months. 100% mark up on face value, plus fees.
Think it was $600 for the cat 1 I didn't get in the ballot - so not a huge stretch. 

Quite right if you afford it. Three adult children here unmarried no mortgages or kids all in full time jobs applied for cat one tickets. Not sure how high they will go. Longer they wait the cheaper it may be but that’s up to them they will never be free. 

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6 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said:

Quite right if you afford it. Three adult children here unmarried no mortgages or kids all in full time jobs applied for cat one tickets. Not sure how high they will go. Longer they wait the cheaper it may be but that’s up to them they will never be free. 

That's it, it was the cheapest FIFA resale I've seen for a while, and about $150 more than I was in to pay for in the SSC ballot. Would rather kick myself for paying too much than not get in. Gone looking again, and the prices for the tickets just now are still over a grand.

It's up in the gods right enough, but I'm Supporters Premier Tier for the first game, so it'll be interesting.

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Sneaky feeling that might mean you are in the Morocco end

4 minutes ago, Ripped Cords said:

That's it, it was the cheapest FIFA resale I've seen for a while, and about $150 more than I was in to pay for in the SSC ballot. Would rather kick myself for paying too much than not get in. Gone looking again, and the prices for the tickets just now are still over a grand.

It's up in the gods right enough, but I'm Supporters Premier Tier for the first game, so it'll be interesting.

https://s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/content-fifa-prod-secutix-ypety8su/images/venue/large/636e5dc1-5575-4ccf-b2e7-0f69ef13de17.png

 

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I am planning to go to the Haiti and Morroco games, it will be my first time attending a game. How do I make sure I buy tickets in the Scotland section and not the Haiti/Morocco sections? Sorry if that's a dumb question I just don't know how it works. 

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Scored 3 face value CAT1 tickets for Haiti on the marketplace. It shows the “Original Seller” as FWC26 so can only assume these are ballot tickets that have somehow not passed the payment process so FIFA now touting bacK on the marketplace to get their 15% resale fee 

To be fair - I was refreshing that page for about 20 hours a day…..but stay positive…tickets are there if you keep looking!!

 

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53 minutes ago, niallb said:

Scored 3 face value CAT1 tickets for Haiti on the marketplace. It shows the “Original Seller” as FWC26 so can only assume these are ballot tickets that have somehow not passed the payment process so FIFA now touting bacK on the marketplace to get their 15% resale fee 

To be fair - I was refreshing that page for about 20 hours a day…..but stay positive…tickets are there if you keep looking!!

 

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I like how FIFA have manipulated the process so that $500 'face value' tickets seem like a good deal. 

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Very Interesting @niallb

Technically they would be the Original Seller, but why have that box available if it was always going to show FIFA as the original seller? We would really need to see a few more Invoices to know for sure?

So, tickets sold at cost price (with the fee added on top). Possible scenarios:

1. FIFA punting tickets on the resell market.

2. Touts off loading Cat 1 Tickets at cost price.

3. A fan who bought for $500 and just wants their cash back.

 

Of the 3 I would say number 3 is the least likliest. Why buy them at $500 if you were going to sell them at $500? And, if they were bought at $500, they could only have been priced at that in the Sales phase where you knoew the teams involved.

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11 minutes ago, bdgsct said:

I like how FIFA have manipulated the process so that $500 'face value' tickets seem like a good deal. 

Agreed on this one. Hopefully it also means that the fact 'Face Value' tickets are already appearing before the Last Minute Sales Phase has even started, mean they will fall further.

I think they will and by a long way but that is me totally guessing. Might need to wait until late May to see the drops starting though.

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I can see why FIFA would want to withhold tickets and then sell on their own resale for more fees but it also forces those who were willing to pay $500 in the ballot to third party sellers where FIFA make no extra. Difficult to tell what's going on.

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3 hours ago, niallb said:

Scored 3 face value CAT1 tickets for Haiti on the marketplace. It shows the “Original Seller” as FWC26 so can only assume these are ballot tickets that have somehow not passed the payment process so FIFA now touting bacK on the marketplace to get their 15% resale fee 

To be fair - I was refreshing that page for about 20 hours a day…..but stay positive…tickets are there if you keep looking!!

The resale for the Morocco game that I picked up also has that. 

The other difference in description I’ve seen is Visa Direct to Cardholder.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Ripped Cords said:

The resale for the Morocco game that I picked up also has that. 

The other difference in description I’ve seen is Visa Direct to Cardholder.

 

 

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I asked AI..........

Apparently all tickets re-sold will be listed as that and FIFA said they would not be selling tickets on re-sale Market. But also saw some responses that said they would sell some.

If they did, and sold them for a higher price than 'Face Value', including Fee's. It could be termed as 'Primary Scalping'.

It all stinks to high heaven!

But at this stage in the game, Face Value +15% is pretty amazing work. I don't think we will see that price widely available until June, maybe not at all. Who knows!

Did you get similair on Morocco? Hope you did.

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28 minutes ago, Craig Fae Hamilton said:

I asked AI..........

Apparently all tickets re-sold will be listed as that and FIFA said they would not be selling tickets on re-sale Market. But also saw some responses that said they would sell some.

If they did, and sold them for a higher price than 'Face Value', including Fee's. It could be termed as 'Primary Scalping'.

It all stinks to high heaven!

But at this stage in the game, Face Value +15% is pretty amazing work. I don't think we will see that price widely available until June, maybe not at all. Who knows!

Did you get similair on Morocco? Hope you did.

Thanks, but not as good as. I was $650 +15%.
Face values have been fluid, so I suspect the one I paid double face value for, was an early sale ticket at $310 or $330, rather than a last ballot’s $430.

 

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On 1/12/2026 at 1:26 PM, Craig Fae Hamilton said:

Haiti- $747 CAT 2 (Minimal Change), Scalpers $684 (No Change)

Morocco - UP $275 to $1136 CAT 2 (Minimal Change), Scalpers $706 (No Change)

Brazil - $1035 CAT 2 (Down $115), Scalpers $1027 (Minimal Change)

About 5 Weeks since I last checked this. Mainly because FIFA's Re-sell Marketplace was not showing prices for ages and it made it harder to check. Lot's has happened mind you, RSD and PMA Sales opened and closed. My prediction for ages is that this will be the most expensive time to buy as un-successful applicants from the 2 draws above take to the Re-Sell Market. Prices will inflate and FIFA will use these inflated prices to inflate the price of their own tickets when it comes to the last minute sales phase (but they maybe look cheap in comparison). Reckon prices will start to fall Mid-May. But, like everyone else I am guessing. So here we go, checking now:

Haiti- UP $120 to $862 CAT 2, Scalpers UP $250 to $936

Morocco - UP $200 $1069 CAT 2, Scalpers UP $120 to $824

Brazil - UP $575 to $1610 CAT 2, Scalpers UP $477 to $1477

 

Prices taken from FIFA Re-Sell and:

https://www.ticketdata.com/performer/world-cup-soccer

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However many scotland fans are attending, it sounds like FIFA's metrics have successfully detected that we are willing to pay more money than any other fans, which has led to the price increase in what is hopefully the Short Term. This despite the fact that most accept that the amount of scotland fans attending will be well below the capacity of the stadium. As more fans pay daft prices, the pool of desperate buyers diminishes and (along with more tickets possibly being made available) the price should drop, particularly if the game is fast approaching. Its a guessing game but, I think for the prices to be where they are, there must be very few tickets in the market. At $1000-$1500, you expect American neutrals to start selling up.

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These prices are here to stay until Mid-May in my opinion. Then it will be a slow decline until the asking prices eventually reach true markey value literally days before games.

This short selling period between Ballots closing and the Re-Sell Market closing is designed to make sure the Market closes when prices are still out of this stratoshere.

Roll on the Last Minute Sales Phase when tickets are released at sky high prices, but cheaper than the tickets on the Resell Market.

The prices remain at these levels throughout April and the start of May, only starting to reduce Mid May when Scalpers and FIFA realise that they need to shift all remaining tickets pronto. They then reduce slowly. Until true market value is reflected in asking prices literally days before the Tourney/Game starts.

I am guessing like everyone else. But I still do not think that 2 Million Americans all applied to buy $500 Tickets for Scotland v Haiti. That's the level of applications required to mean that so few of us were successful when applying for Tickets in the RSD.

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35 minutes ago, Craig Fae Hamilton said:

 

The prices remain at these levels throughout April and the start of May, only starting to reduce Mid May when Scalpers and FIFA realise that they need to shift all remaining tickets pronto. They then reduce slowly. Until true market value is reflected in asking prices literally days before the Tourney/Game starts.

 

That's been my reading on it from the start. There's absolutely no need to panic 

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26 minutes ago, Craig Fae Hamilton said:

These prices are here to stay until Mid-May in my opinion. Then it will be a slow decline until the asking prices eventually reach true markey value literally days before games.

This short selling period between Ballots closing and the Re-Sell Market closing is designed to make sure the Market closes when prices are still out of this stratoshere.

Roll on the Last Minute Sales Phase when tickets are released at sky high prices, but cheaper than the tickets on the Resell Market.

The prices remain at these levels throughout April and the start of May, only starting to reduce Mid May when Scalpers and FIFA realise that they need to shift all remaining tickets pronto. They then reduce slowly. Until true market value is reflected in asking prices literally days before the Tourney/Game starts.

I am guessing like everyone else. But I still do not think that 2 Million Americans all applied to buy $500 Tickets for Scotland v Haiti. That's the level of applications required to mean that so few of us were successful when applying for Tickets in the RSD.

these prices wont decrease unfortenatly as demand will continue to outstrip supply, it was estimated that as many as 30,000 Scots will travel to the USA (which personally I think will be a lot more than anticipated due to the Boston games being played on weekend days) you also have to factor in the amount of ex pats that will travel from all over the USA and nearby Canada.

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5 hours ago, Caledonian Craig said:

I just had this story pop up on my mobile and smacks of FIFA desperately trying to drum up interest to me? What do you reckon?

https://collect.fifa.com/blog/haiti-scotland-right-to-tickets-dominate-weekly-exchanges-on-fifa-collect/

"Why the Community Is Buzzing 

Interest in Haiti–Scotland built steadily throughout the week: swelling watchlists, triggered alerts, and more early moves as attention converged on the same Right‑to‑Tickets. Beyond the tangible stakes on the pitch, collectors are positioning now for one of June’s potential highlight fixtures, where tournament narratives often shift early and a single moment can define a national team’s fate. "

 

No doubt written by AI. Just to be clear, the 'community' they talk about is the community of crypto-bro speculators (i.e. mostly American touts that live in their Maw's basement rubbing the stump off themselves to pics of Caroline Weir) who are trading tickets like they're meme-coins. It's all designed to make Fifa huge commissions while the ordinary fan gets ripped off.

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56 minutes ago, Maradonnagoldenhand said:

these prices wont decrease unfortenatly as demand will continue to outstrip supply, it was estimated that as many as 30,000 Scots will travel to the USA (which personally I think will be a lot more than anticipated due to the Boston games being played on weekend days) you also have to factor in the amount of ex pats that will travel from all over the USA and nearby Canada.

Even 30,000 Scots travelling shouldn't be enough to drive prices above £800. Which means,

1. there is either huge local demand to go to the game.

2. there is a shortage of supply and tickets are being withheld.

3. Speculators are in the market hoping to make a quick buck. 

4. A mixture of the above

 

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