Vancouver

[allan84]

Has anyone had a look at the hotel prices in Vancouver? 

If we end up playing there, I'm not seeing any hotel rooms for under £300-£400 per night.

A pal of mine told me that when cruise ship trips go there, the passengers struggle to get a hotel room as there are so few compared to other major cities.

Does anyone think that temporary accommodation will be set up?

[DoonTheSlope]

1 minute ago, allan84 said:

Has anyone had a look at the hotel prices in Vancouver? 

If we end up playing there, I'm not seeing any hotel rooms for under £300-£400 per night.

A pal of mine told me that when cruise ship trips go there, the passengers struggle to get a hotel room as there are so few compared to other major cities.

Does anyone think that temporary accommodation will be set up?

Why don’t they sleep in their cabins on the cruise ship?

I also looked at a few random Vancouver dates and the prices were extortionate, I never bothered to check if they were actually matchdays though after seeing the prices coming up 

The more I come across with the limited research I’ve done so far the more the likelihood is I’ll be watching the World Cup in the Bronze Bar in Magaluf

[allan84]

13 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said:

Why don’t they sleep in their cabins on the cruise ship?

I also looked at a few random Vancouver dates and the prices were extortionate, I never bothered to check if they were actually matchdays though after seeing the prices coming up 

The more I come across with the limited research I’ve done so far the more the likelihood is I’ll be watching the World Cup in the Bronze Bar in Magaluf

Maybe they fancied staying in the city?

Anyway, its by far the most expensive city out of all the venues. 

Seeing Scotland in a WC is a dream but it would seriously sting having to pay that amount of money for a night in a hotel. 

[thesaint]

1 hour ago, DoonTheSlope said:

Why don’t they sleep in their cabins on the cruise ship?

I also looked at a few random Vancouver dates and the prices were extortionate, I never bothered to check if they were actually matchdays though after seeing the prices coming up 

The more I come across with the limited research I’ve done so far the more the likelihood is I’ll be watching the World Cup in the Bronze Bar in Magaluf

Looking at the ridiculous prices being quoated for every single part of the trip eg flights to the USA,internal flights between venues,hotel  rooms and tickets plus of course living expenses when there it looks like you won't be the only one in the bronze bar in Magaluf or somewhere similar.With one or two exceptions it probably couldn't have been a worse World Cup to qualify for in a financial sense.If going for any length of time i don't see much change out of say £4000-£6000.Just so many of even the regular away trip supporters won't be able to even consider money like that i fear.Just not feasible for most.

[allan84]

Another stupid thing that nobody has mentioned is that many hotels in the USA and Canada require deposits and extra resort/state taxes. 

[Souness]

39 minutes ago, allan84 said:

Another stupid thing that nobody has mentioned is that many hotels in the USA and Canada require deposits and extra resort/state taxes. 

 

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[Souness]

2 hours ago, allan84 said:

Has anyone had a look at the hotel prices in Vancouver? 

If we end up playing there, I'm not seeing any hotel rooms for under £300-£400 per night.

A pal of mine told me that when cruise ship trips go there, the passengers struggle to get a hotel room as there are so few compared to other major cities.

Does anyone think that temporary accommodation will be set up?

We've pre-booked a 3-star hotel for 3 nights and it came in at £700 for two of us. 

We are budgeting an average £500 a day when factoring in flights, digs and activities for 10-14 days each - anything under £7k I'll be chuffed to bits. 

[Grim Jim]

I'm guessing thousands of Canadians booked up Vancouver ages ago.

[GLOSTA]

I was in Vancouver 3 years ago and it is expensive. Maybe best to go a bit further out of  town and away from the cruise terminal. 

The cruises to Alaska start there and most people add a 2 or 3 day stopover. This is peak season for Alaska cruises.

[hobbes]

I was looking at being in Vancouver for 10 days for the second and third Canadian group stage matches. I managed to find something that will work for me (a share of an apartment) yesterday, but I was fully expecting to have to leave and come back between match days. I found a BnB in Victoria (just across the Georgia Straight) for $200/night on the water with a pub attached that I was seriously considering.

There are some hotels in Richmond, around Bridgeport Road, they're about a 10-minute walk to the Skytrain and close to the airport. There was a Holiday Inn Express for just under £300 a night that I was going to book around the match night. You won't feel great paying that much for that kind of hotel, but it's reliable. That Skytrain line only takes you to Yaletown and then it's another 10-15 min walk to the stadium, but it's reasonable. I don't recall if it was fully refundable, but if you are serious about coming over, I think booking something refundable before the draw is a wise move.

If you can find something in Coquitlam or Port Coquitlam the Skytrain out there does go straight to the stadium, but there seem to be far fewer hotel options. I know someone who booked in Surrey for around £275. I don't know how accessible it is from the U.S., but there is an international airport in Abbotsford. There are a few hotels near/at the airport and you can take the Skytrain from the Abbotsford Airport straight to the stadium. It's a 90-minute train ride, but it's an option. I have no idea what a hotel costs in Abbotsford, but I would hope it would be much more reasonable. 

Vancouver is such a great city, it's a shame that more people won't be spending more time there, but I don't know how you can.

Last summer Taylor Swift came through Vancouver and there wasn't a hotel room for less than $1,000/night apparently. Strangers were taking families into their homes because people couldn't afford the hotel costs. It's partly a lack of capacity, but Vancouver is a very popular tourist destination at the best of times and the cruise ships don't help. 

I don't think many Canadian supporters actually have tickets yet, so I don't know how many have booked hotels before knowing if they'll have any success in securing a ticket. More than one person I know who is planning on going was going to camp or stay in an RV. 

 

[TDYER63]

My choice would be Vancouver as my brother was there last year and really enjoyed it. I would build it into a 2 week holiday of Canada, but the prices are seriously steep. I am trying to justify it in as much this might be the last WC I will see. Not because I dont think we will qualify again more how much energy I have to travel. 
My head is bursting with all the potential groups/cities so just waiting for the draw. 
I am lucky in that I have not long retired and can use some pension money to fund this, but its just so out of the price range for regular fans with financial commitments . Throw in the Ronaldo fiasco and I can see why folk would want to join in the party elsewhere. 
 

[thesaint]

7 hours ago, TDYER63 said:

My choice would be Vancouver as my brother was there last year and really enjoyed it. I would build it into a 2 week holiday of Canada, but the prices are seriously steep. I am trying to justify it in as much this might be the last WC I will see. Not because I dont think we will qualify again more how much energy I have to travel. 
My head is bursting with all the potential groups/cities so just waiting for the draw. 
I am lucky in that I have not long retired and can use some pension money to fund this, but its just so out of the price range for regular fans with financial commitments . Throw in the Ronaldo fiasco and I can see why folk would want to join in the party elsewhere. 
 

Just horribly expensive and so far out of most fans budget.No way round it...i ain't going no matter how desperate i am to go.Will be interesting to see how many will manage to get £4000-£5000 from somewhere to go.Good luck to anybody that can afford it Surely anybody in the supporters club that want tickets will get them.

[dan cake]

19 minutes ago, thesaint said:

Just horribly expensive and so far out of most fans budget.No way round it...i ain't going no matter how desperate i am to go.Will be interesting to see how many will manage to get £4000-£5000 from somewhere to go.Good luck to anybody that can afford it Surely anybody in the supporters club that want tickets will get them.

I’ll have £5000 in my “Scotland” account (put money into it every month, started it for Qatar) come June but the more I hear and read about this World Cup the less and less appealing it’s become, no doubt I’ll be like a wee laddie when the draw is made tho. Won’t just be chucking my money away if the schedule (games dates venues) don’t fit around a two weektrip with an ideal (reasonable) amount of travelling and expense then I’ll not be going. I don’t suffer from FOMO and will probably just fuck off somewhere sunny for 10 days and watch the games, would also mean I’d have cash and holidays to have a few longer trips for the Nations League games or March/June friendlies if any are away from home. 

Edited November 30 by dan cake

[McTeeko]

10 hours ago, thesaint said:

Just horribly expensive and so far out of most fans budget.No way round it...i ain't going no matter how desperate i am to go.Will be interesting to see how many will manage to get £4000-£5000 from somewhere to go.Good luck to anybody that can afford it Surely anybody in the supporters club that want tickets will get them.

It’s no just sprung up on us though. As Dan says above he’s been saving for four years, as have I.

However the more you look into it all, the worse it looks. Couple of days after the Denmark game I was like “fuck it, we’re going for the three games!”. That was before the allocations, costs and everything else came out. Now I’ll be happy to get to one game if I’m lucky enough to get tickets.

It’s been 28 years waiting, some people will be happy to splash out as we dunno when/if it’ll come round again.
It’s all relative as well. Some people are happy spend £10k to go to Orlando for a family holiday just to stand in a queue for two hours for a daft ride that lasts 30 seconds, or wait two hours just so your wee lassie can hug Minnie Mouse (it’s no Minnie Mouse by the way, it’s a student in a suit trying to pay their way through college). For some people it’ll be worth it, for others it won’t.

[allan84]

Flights into Vancouver from the USA are also appearing at £600+ return and sure to rise! 
 

I hope we dont get Vancouver because regardless of whether someone is willing to pay it or not, its beyond a joke. 

[allan84]

Is there a chance that Fifa/Canadian FA will build temporary accomodation?

The city seems extremely under prepared for a tournament of this magnitude! 

[Bristolhibby]

8 hours ago, allan84 said:

Is there a chance that Fifa/Canadian FA will build temporary accomodation?

The city seems extremely under prepared for a tournament of this magnitude! 

The instant “opportunity” is to use the cruise liners as additional accommodation. 

Will the liners be on the ball? Down town location. 24 hour bars. I would seriously consider that around the games if they didn’t rip the pash. 

J

[Northern Light]

1 hour ago, Bristolhibby said:

The instant “opportunity” is to use the cruise liners as additional accommodation. 

Will the liners be on the ball? Down town location. 24 hour bars. I would seriously consider that around the games if they didn’t rip the pash. 

J

I went to Qatar and stayed on one of the cruise liners that they provided for accommodation. It seemed like every team had some fans on the ship. Lots of food, drink and socialising, it was great fun. Big screens on the deck showing all the matches. Would do it again in a heartbeat albeit, it wasn’t cheap.

[DoonTheSlope]

As previous posters have mentioned the highs of a couple of weeks ago to the harsh realities of the pre draw planning makes me wonder about the whole debacle

It’s one thing whether someone can afford it or not but it’s another thing entirely when you’re being taken for the proverbial Noel Hunt. The expectation is you’re always going to get ripped off but looking ahead this is going to be a rip off of far greater proportions than normal

The Ronaldo situation(and I’m a CR7 fan boi, although it should’ve been a penalty) the manipulation of the group placings prior to the draw to ensure the big boys don’t meet until the latter stages should they win their respective groups and not to mention the FIFAs own resell site with their eye watering commission 

Do I really want to spend thousands of hard earned dough on 3or4 nights for 1 Scotland game or head off down to South America later on in the year

It’ll all become clearer next weekend but in the cold light of day the World Cup certainly isn’t anywhere near as appealing as it was 10 days ago

[fringo]

3 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said:

As previous posters have mentioned the highs of a couple of weeks ago to the harsh realities of the pre draw planning makes me wonder about the whole debacle

It’s one thing whether someone can afford it or not but it’s another thing entirely when you’re being taken for the proverbial Noel Hunt. The expectation is you’re always going to get ripped off but looking ahead this is going to be a rip off of far greater proportions than normal

The Ronaldo situation(and I’m a CR7 fan boi, although it should’ve been a penalty) the manipulation of the group placings prior to the draw to ensure the big boys don’t meet until the latter stages should they win their respective groups and not to mention the FIFAs own resell site with their eye watering commission 

Do I really want to spend thousands of hard earned dough on 3or4 nights for 1 Scotland game or head off down to South America later on in the year

It’ll all become clearer next weekend but in the cold light of day the World Cup certainly isn’t anywhere near as appealing as it was 10 days ago

Far too expensive for me but even if I did have the cash, like you have said it feels such a rip off, I don't think I'd go. I'd rather take the chance and hope we get to 2030 WC and Spain & Portugal and even Morocco which are far more accessible.

[thesaint]

11 hours ago, McTeeko said:

It’s no just sprung up on us though. As Dan says above he’s been saving for four years, as have I.

However the more you look into it all, the worse it looks. Couple of days after the Denmark game I was like “fuck it, we’re going for the three games!”. That was before the allocations, costs and everything else came out. Now I’ll be happy to get to one game if I’m lucky enough to get tickets.

It’s been 28 years waiting, some people will be happy to splash out as we dunno when/if it’ll come round again.
It’s all relative as well. Some people are happy spend £10k to go to Orlando for a family holiday just to stand in a queue for two hours for a daft ride that lasts 30 seconds, or wait two hours just so your wee lassie can hug Minnie Mouse (it’s no Minnie Mouse by the way, it’s a student in a suit trying to pay their way through college). For some people it’ll be worth it, for others it won’t.

Would be happy to splash out if i had it to splash out.Unfortunately money like that is beyond my means.Sure quite a lot are well enough off to find £5000 or so but also sure there are more that aren't.That's life.Just unfortunate that our first World Cup since 1998 is going to be so bloody expensive though.

[McTeeko]

18 minutes ago, thesaint said:

Would be happy to splash out if i had it to splash out.Unfortunately money like that is beyond my means.Sure quite a lot are well enough off to find £5000 or so but also sure there are more that aren't.That's life.Just unfortunate that our first World Cup since 1998 is going to be so bloody expensive though.

Yup, as mentioned above the excitement of ten days ago is rapidly diminishing day by day. Absolutely nae need for the way FIFA are doing this 😡

[Grim Jim]

If I'm going to spend thousands on the Americas, I'm doing a Malcolm and calculating how many bottles of Californian Zinfandel I can get instead 🤔

[Ally Bongo]

You also have to take into account the dangers at this World Cup will be greater than any other - and that's ignoring the threat of deportation !

Gun violence in America for starters 

Any aggro in some dive bar could result in more than a sore face

Large crowds are an easy target for terrorists not to mention the home grown lone wolf 

 

[DoonTheSlope]

4 hours ago, Ally Bongo said:

You also have to take into account the dangers at this World Cup will be greater than any other - and that's ignoring the threat of deportation !

Gun violence in America for starters 

Any aggro in some dive bar could result in more than a sore face

Large crowds are an easy target for terrorists not to mention the home grown lone wolf 

 

In that case the onus is on you to turn the other cheek and move along