vanderark14 Posted July 28, 2025 Posted July 28, 2025 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Big Ramy 1314 said: I like this... Who would you change? Very hard to leave out ronaldo from a best ever. Hes a narcissistic cunt but nobody can argue his talent. For me its impossible to pick a best 11 because some of the best players played when the game was completely different. For example Maradona and Pele played in a time where kicking players was almost accepted as long as you got the ball and they played in an era where players weren't overloaded with sport science and they weren't supremely fit Edited July 28, 2025 by vanderark14 Quote
Redz Posted July 28, 2025 Posted July 28, 2025 Here's the world's undisputed best ever XI and bench: Leighton Rougvie Miller McLeish McMaster Strachan Cooper Simpson Weir Black McGhee Bench: Gunn, Kennedy, Watson, Hewitt, Angus Quote
vanderark14 Posted July 28, 2025 Posted July 28, 2025 6 minutes ago, Redz said: Here's the world's undisputed best ever XI and bench: Leighton Rougvie Miller McLeish McMaster Strachan Cooper Simpson Weir Black McGhee Bench: Gunn, Kennedy, Watson, Hewitt, Angus 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌 Quote
Fairbairn Posted July 28, 2025 Posted July 28, 2025 11 minutes ago, Redz said: Here's the world's undisputed best ever XI and bench: Leighton Rougvie Miller McLeish McMaster Strachan Cooper Simpson Weir Black McGhee Bench: Gunn, Kennedy, Watson, Hewitt, Angus Think you've got Kenny Miller and Davie Weir's positions mixed up there. Davie Cooper looks spot on though....😉 Quote
Big Ramy 1314 Posted July 28, 2025 Author Posted July 28, 2025 18 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: Very hard to leave out ronaldo from a best ever. Hes a narcissistic cunt but nobody can argue his talent. For me its impossible to pick a best 11 because some of the best players played when the game was completely different. For example Maradona and Pele played in a time where kicking players was almost accepted as long as you got the ball and they played in an era where players weren't overloaded with sport science and they weren't supremely fit Excellent post VA. Players today would be diving all over the park had they played in the days of Pele, DeStefano, Eusebio, and so on... Agree with Ronaldo though.. I would also add Buffon to that list.. Quote
vanderark14 Posted July 28, 2025 Posted July 28, 2025 5 minutes ago, Big Ramy 1314 said: Excellent post VA. Players today would be diving all over the park had they played in the days of Pele, DeStefano, Eusebio, and so on... Agree with Ronaldo though.. I would also add Buffon to that list.. Its an impossible ask when you get into it. Goalkeepers alone is a metal category. So many to choose from I actually don't like it when players are labelled as the best ever nowadays.....too many generatioms have passed to say who is actually the best Quote
Ally Bongo Posted July 28, 2025 Posted July 28, 2025 Depends how you categorise "best ever" There is best in their day - Beckenbauer and Moore There have been far better players in those kinda positions after them - Baresi, Baggio, Matthaus You could probably even argue that Willie Miller or Terry Butcher were on a par with Moore Best of all time - can't argue with the remainder with the exception of Cafu and Yashin probably Quote
dan cake Posted July 28, 2025 Posted July 28, 2025 (edited) He might be a rapey cunt but Dani Alves gets in ahead of Cafu as does Lilian Thuram. Nae Zidane for me either, a rich man’s Chic Charnley Edited July 28, 2025 by dan cake Quote
RDFH64 Posted July 28, 2025 Posted July 28, 2025 1 hour ago, Big Ramy 1314 said: Excellent post VA. Players today would be diving all over the park had they played in the days of Pele, DeStefano, Eusebio, and so on... Agree with Ronaldo though.. I would also add Buffon to that list.. Come on Ramy, Buffon was a goalkeeper so was allowed to dive 😜 Quote
duncan II Posted July 28, 2025 Posted July 28, 2025 1 hour ago, vanderark14 said: Goalkeepers alone is a metal category. So many to choose from Off the top of my head - Lead Yashin and Andy Gold-am. 🤭 Quote
Hertsscot Posted July 28, 2025 Posted July 28, 2025 1 hour ago, Redz said: Here's the world's undisputed best ever XI and bench: Leighton Rougvie Miller McLeish McMaster Strachan Cooper Simpson Weir Black McGhee Bench: Gunn, Kennedy, Watson, Hewitt, Angus This was the season before I watched Aberdeen regularly. Is there a reason why Rougvie was playing right back instead of Kennedy? Iirc Rougvie tended to play on the left. Quote
exile Posted July 28, 2025 Posted July 28, 2025 I can't assess how good Mr Moore was because most information we have been fed is distorted via a rose tinted lenses so I think it would be hard to be objective about him (though fair play to those who are attempting to be). I just can't believe he wasn't/isn't over-hyped because he played for a certain team in a certain tournament. And anyway... what about George Best? Quote
Big Ramy 1314 Posted July 28, 2025 Author Posted July 28, 2025 23 minutes ago, exile said: I can't assess how good Mr Moore was because most information we have been fed is distorted via a rose tinted lenses so I think it would be hard to be objective about him (though fair play to those who are attempting to be). I just can't believe he wasn't/isn't over-hyped because he played for a certain team in a certain tournament. And anyway... what about George Best? Amen.. George Best Quote
Redz Posted July 28, 2025 Posted July 28, 2025 1 hour ago, Hertsscot said: This was the season before I watched Aberdeen regularly. Is there a reason why Rougvie was playing right back instead of Kennedy? Iirc Rougvie tended to play on the left. Kennedy was injured and done following an accidental injury at the semi final Fergie had him on the bench that night so he could get a (winners ❤️) medal as a mark of respect / recognition Rougvie was comfortable on either side I have no idea how you managed to watch our team then and become a Rangers fan, though 😉😂🙈 Quote
Redz Posted July 28, 2025 Posted July 28, 2025 3 hours ago, Fairbairn said: Think you've got Kenny Miller and Davie Weir's positions mixed up there. Davie Cooper looks spot on though....😉 Very good 👏😂 Quote
kumnio Posted July 30, 2025 Posted July 30, 2025 Buffon Cafu Baresi Maldini Roberto-Carlos Iniesta Mattheus Maradona Messi Pele Ronaldo Subs Neuer, Cannavaro, Thuram, Xavi, Kaka, Nemsadze, Figo, Batistuta, Baggio And an absolute ton of recency bias. Quote
StirlingEgg Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 10 hours ago, kumnio said: Buffon Cafu Baresi Maldini Roberto-Carlos Iniesta Mattheus Maradona Messi Pele Ronaldo Subs Neuer, Cannavaro, Thuram, Xavi, Kaka, Nemsadze, Figo, Batistuta, Baggio And an absolute ton of recency bias. Which Ronaldo is that? 🙂 Quote
Orraloon Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 2 hours ago, StirlingEgg said: Which Ronaldo is that? 🙂 I'm guessing that he will claim to be too young to remember the best Ronaldo. 😉 Quote
kumnio Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 2 hours ago, StirlingEgg said: Which Ronaldo is that? 🙂 I know that Cristiano is a world class player, but there's only one Ronaldo. 19 minutes ago, Orraloon said: I'm guessing that he will claim to be too young to remember the best Ronaldo. 😉 I only wish I was. He is the best striker Ive seen, just ahead of Batistuta. Quote
StirlingEgg Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 4 hours ago, kumnio said: I know that Cristiano is a world class player, but there's only one Ronaldo. I only wish I was. He is the best striker Ive seen, just ahead of Batistuta. Fair enough - I was half expecting an answer pointing out an obvious consideration I'd missed! Thought it might be going by the other Brazilian players included but then wasn’t sure when you mentioned recency bias... Quote
kumnio Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 2 hours ago, StirlingEgg said: Fair enough - I was half expecting an answer pointing out an obvious consideration I'd missed! Thought it might be going by the other Brazilian players included but then wasn’t sure when you mentioned recency bias... Just looked, apparently the real Ronaldo left Real Madrid 18 years ago, quite frankly that's utterly preposterous. How the hell has 18 years went by since then. Quote
morrie21 Posted August 1, 2025 Posted August 1, 2025 On 7/28/2025 at 3:06 PM, Big Ramy 1314 said: I like this... Who would you change? Would like to know who voted for this. So many players out of position. As far as I know, Beckenbauer was a magnificent sweeper, not a left sided CB in a back four. Baresi would be a better choice at CB than Beckenbauer or Moore. Could also play Maldini at left CB and Andreas Brehme at LB. Maradona and Zidane, outstanding players, but which one of them would like to do the nuts and bolts of tracking back in this setup? It's not happening. This team is just everyone's favourite front six/big names with a highly regarded back line. Can't take it seriously until tactical appreciation or faormation argument is taken into consideration. Quote
StirlingEgg Posted August 1, 2025 Posted August 1, 2025 20 hours ago, kumnio said: Just looked, apparently the real Ronaldo left Real Madrid 18 years ago, quite frankly that's utterly preposterous. How the hell has 18 years went by since then. I tend to think of anything that's happened in a year starting 20 something still as relatively recent 🫤 Quote
Big Ramy 1314 Posted August 1, 2025 Author Posted August 1, 2025 14 hours ago, morrie21 said: Would like to know who voted for this. So many players out of position. As far as I know, Beckenbauer was a magnificent sweeper, not a left sided CB in a back four. Baresi would be a better choice at CB than Beckenbauer or Moore. Could also play Maldini at left CB and Andreas Brehme at LB. Maradona and Zidane, outstanding players, but which one of them would like to do the nuts and bolts of tracking back in this setup? It's not happening. This team is just everyone's favourite front six/big names with a highly regarded back line. Can't take it seriously until tactical appreciation or faormation argument is taken into consideration. They should have done a generational players of all time. You can't really name them.cuz the game has changed over the years. I just read about the Soviet Oleg Boniak, apparently the best striker in the world in the late 70s and early 80s... Just saying like. I read his stats, some fuckin player btw... Quote
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