duncan II Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Apologies for yet another politics thread. Had enough of the SNP. Not been a member now for a few years but seriously considering not giving them my vote now. With the corruption (and it is corruption), the lack of movement on (or even remote interest in) independence and general ineptitude, they've done what I didn't think possible and lost my vote. Seeing the grinning fuckwits in New York, just there for a pointless jolly, jumping on the gravy train is the final straw for me. Always resisted jumping to Alba as some of the more prominent Twitter users give cause for concern. But I'm almost convinced that their more proactive and aggressive approach to independence is what we need. I'll monitor their progress with interest. But the grifters in the SNP have almost certainly lost me for the time being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Been considering this myself. Not sure what to do. Earlier today I watched the video Ally posted during the week. The Barrhead Boy video. It was fairly interesting and they definitely have a more pro active stance , but I also get the feeling some folk connected with Alba are as smitten with AS as those that are accused of being NS sheep. I am certainly giving it more thought than I ever expected though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan II Posted April 16, 2023 Author Share Posted April 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, TDYER63 said: Been considering this myself. Not sure what to do. Earlier today I watched the video Ally posted during the week. The Barrhead Boy video. It was fairly interesting and they definitely have a more pro active stance , but I also get the feeling some folk connected with Alba are as smitten with AS as those that are accused of being NS sheep. I am certainly giving it more thought than I ever expected though. Yeah, I think they need to be considered. The sneering attitude of the SNP towards them is reminiscent of Labour towards the SNP of old and is helping push me their way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Thought this would be a moving home thread 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan II Posted April 16, 2023 Author Share Posted April 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: Thought this would be a moving home thread 😂 😄 I'm moving to Albania. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 What the grifters in the SNP are banking on is that when it comes to the next election(s) the only credible choice will be between the shite SNP or a Unionist candidate That is why nothing of significance , that we all want except Aaid, will happen before then. It might work - the thought of Unionists being in power again is a big motivation Whether Alba can be credible by then i'm not sure - they might not even stand candidates in a General Election Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeedom Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Good for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan II Posted April 16, 2023 Author Share Posted April 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, Freeedom said: Good for you Good for who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggis_trap Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Moving to Alba better than Labour.... 🤣 Though personally I dont think the SNP is a total busted flush. It is clear the party has been at war with itself ever since the Salmond trial. Next UK election should have been golden opportunity for SNP to become the Westminster kingmakers. Sadly that opportunity gone (and current woe all self inflicted: a classic Scottish own goal) Joanna Cherry seems to have finger on the pulse and gives me hope all is not lost. https://www.thenational.scot/politics/23454453.us-questions-snp-finances-shouted/ As for Alba ? I like Alex Salmond - but : he is yesterdays man and no longer in position to deliver independence either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 A hard one, I hate everything about the snp at the moment however that’s what they are wanting, get all the reasonable members away from the party so they can completely reck it, you can be a member of both 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Hope it works out. I'm sure there's quite a number of SNP members who are seriously considering a similar move. There's obviously some very unpleasant keyboard warriors in Alba but the same could be said about a number of SNP politicians. I'm sticking with the SNP at present but that doesn't mean I don't have some very serious reservations about the party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 As it stands i'll be voting for nobody. The lunatic fringe of Alba puts me off and i don't trust the SNP just now. Greens i disagree with too much of their policy and i'd never vote for a unionist party. I really hope SNP can get their house in order before the next election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan II Posted April 17, 2023 Author Share Posted April 17, 2023 42 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: As it stands i'll be voting for nobody. The lunatic fringe of Alba puts me off and i don't trust the SNP just now. Greens i disagree with too much of their policy and i'd never vote for a unionist party. I really hope SNP can get their house in order before the next election. Yeah, I'm onboard with most of that. I'm currently investigating whether Alba are more than just a lunatic fringe! I'm attracted by the proactive independence stance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapofGlencoe Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Salmond has the right message but seems to be the only one in Alba that does and has personally lost credibility rightly or wrongly. Alba seem to be defined by the trans issues as much as Independence. Not something I want to be overly associated with in any direction. I wouldn't be proud to say I'm SNP, green or Alba these days for different reasons. Homeless politically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 People are either ignorant, have a terrible selective memory or are in denial when it comes to Salmond. Jeez in polls (from BEFORE his scandal) he was even less popular in Scotland than Bojo. Ffs that is staggeringly unpopular. In 2014 too I knew of relatives and friends who point blank refused to contemplate voting Yes because of Salmond. And again this was way before his scandal. Damaged goods remain that - damaged. It is the same in any walk of life. Look at people like Michael Barrymore following his court case his career still remsins finished even though he was never charged and there are others. And can you imagine the wet dreams unionists would have if he were back as a leading light for independence? Sex pest Salmond says Yes etc etc etc. It would never work for the independence movement and this is backed up by the rank rotten performance by Alba which he fronts. If he was any sort of man like his fans believe their performances would have been far better. Jeez they have even toiled in his heartland. He is like a sausage on a blazing barbeque....well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Caledonian Craig said: People are either ignorant, have a terrible selective memory or are in denial when it comes to Salmond. Jeez in polls (from BEFORE his scandal) he was even less popular in Scotland than Bojo. Ffs that is staggeringly unpopular. In 2014 too I knew of relatives and friends who point blank refused to contemplate voting Yes because of Salmond. And again this was way before his scandal. Damaged goods remain that - damaged. It is the same in any walk of life. Look at people like Michael Barrymore following his court case his career still remsins finished even though he was never charged and there are others. And can you imagine the wet dreams unionists would have if he were back as a leading light for independence? Sex pest Salmond says Yes etc etc etc. It would never work for the independence movement and this is backed up by the rank rotten performance by Alba which he fronts. If he was any sort of man like his fans believe their performances would have been far better. Jeez they have even toiled in his heartland. He is like a sausage on a blazing barbeque....well done. Get a grip you rocket, you should at least be happy he isn’t away and voting for a unionist party, u are every bit as bad as aaid in your character assassination,, I will place a bet right now that alba get more than 10 seats at the next holyrood elections . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, hampden_loon2878 said: Get a grip you rocket, you should at least be happy he isn’t away and voting for a unionist party, u are every bit as bad as aaid in your character assassination,, I will place a bet right now that alba get more than 10 seats at the next holyrood elections . The fact you made no effort to refute the valid points I make says it all. I wish Alba well and any success it has will be from disenchanted ex-SNP voters. Edited April 17, 2023 by Caledonian Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: The fact you made no effort to refute the valid points I make says it all. I wish Alba well and any success it has will be from disenchanted ex-SNP voters. The amount of snp voters that will give them their second vote this time around will be significant, ironic really as they may well need as much second preference votes as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 On 4/16/2023 at 5:27 PM, ParisInAKilt said: Thought this would be a moving home thread 😂 So did I. Us romantic/exiles. 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 This is one of your comrades. Not an isolated incident either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 1 hour ago, aaid said: This is one of your comrades. Not an isolated incident either. You’d vote for no one if arseholes on twitter are your comrades by voting for the same party Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: You’d vote for no one if arseholes on twitter are your comrades by voting for the same party As I said, not an isolated incident and one that goes uncondemned by Alba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 Surely if Hanvey is in a discussion with Farage and Robert Clach then there wont be much they agree on Farage and Oliver are the Colonialist/Quisling tag team ergo Hanvey can get tore into them ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 34 minutes ago, aaid said: As I said, not an isolated incident and one that goes uncondemned by Alba Is the person on twitter important to the party? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: Is the person on twitter important to the party? It could be Alex Salmond for all I know as he goes under a pseudonym. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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