scotlad Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: Aye we could definitely start off as an Independent country with Ash Regan at the helm Jesus She's another who's high on ego and low on ability. 59 minutes ago, aaid said: I see that Ashten Regan has come out top in the Wings self selecting poll. The good news is that virtually no one who voted in that poll would have a vote in the actual election. She’s also Roddy Dunlop’s choice as well. Says it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Mairi McAllan rumoured to be considering standing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted February 17, 2023 Author Share Posted February 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, exile said: Steady on, you’ll induce aneurysms with that picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 36 minutes ago, exile said: 😂😂😂 I'd vote for him/her whatever. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 51 minutes ago, aaid said: Steady on, you’ll induce aneurysms with that picture. 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Jim Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 4 hours ago, exile said: Wid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) Has anyone actually declared an interest yet or are they all too feart to be the first yin to attack the wedding buffet? Alexa Salmond is a 14 pinter I reckon 🤔 Edited February 17, 2023 by slasher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 10 hours ago, slasher said: Has anyone actually declared an interest yet or are they all too feart to be the first yin to attack the wedding buffet? Alexa Salmond is a 14 pinter I reckon 🤔 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 10 hours ago, slasher said: Has anyone actually declared an interest yet or are they all too feart to be the first yin to attack the wedding buffet? Alexa Salmond is a 14 pinter I reckon 🤔 No one has declared yet. If they all know what HL knows then maybe nobody wants the job? Big Alexa might have to come back and save the day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted February 18, 2023 Author Share Posted February 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Orraloon said: No one has declared yet. If they all know what HL knows then maybe nobody wants the job? Big Alexa might have to come back and save the day? With the combination of that thought and that picture he’ll be needing to wipe off the screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 1 hour ago, aaid said: With the combination of that thought and that picture he’ll be needing to wipe off the screen. 🤣 but true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 There is nothing set in stone to say that the SNP Leader and the First Minister has to be the same person. Maybe it's worth considering if the the two jobs combined is too big for one person? I wouldn't be opposed to electing an SNP Leader (this doesn't have to be an MSP) whose main focus would be to try to progress the route towards independence. We then elect a First Minister focusing on the day to day running of the Scottish Government. They have hugely cut short the timescale for electing a new leader, so this is highly unlikely to happen, but I do think it would have been the perfect time to start thinking about things a wee bit differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted February 18, 2023 Author Share Posted February 18, 2023 17 minutes ago, Orraloon said: There is nothing set in stone to say that the SNP Leader and the First Minister has to be the same person. Maybe it's worth considering if the the two jobs combined is too big for one person? I wouldn't be opposed to electing an SNP Leader (this doesn't have to be an MSP) whose main focus would be to try to progress the route towards independence. We then elect a First Minister focusing on the day to day running of the Scottish Government. They have hugely cut short the timescale for electing a new leader, so this is highly unlikely to happen, but I do think it would have been the perfect time to start thinking about things a wee bit differently. I can see the logic behind that but I think it’s a bit of recipe for disaster and would be an open goal for opponents - “who is actually in charge?”. What I’d think about is the position of Depute Leader and getting them to be solely responsible for the independence campaign. That’s no disrespect to Keith Brown, but he already has two jobs. Even then it’s difficult, you can’t have the FM being asked questions about independence and answering “you need to speak to the Depute Leader about that”. It doesn’t need to be a full time politician. I’ve no idea who it could be though, and the party would need to pay for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 To be fair to Humza, the way the potential industrial action in the NHS has been handled in Scotland has been far, far better than the shit show that is going on down south. It now looks like there will be no strikes before the end of March. Hopefully none at all? Which at least sees us through the worst of winter. I'm not sure how much direct involvement Humza has had in these negotiations but we should give credit to all those involved. NHS management, the unions and the workforce all deserve some praise for the way they have behaved throughout this difficult time. I still don't want Humza as First Minister though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 I see Robin McAlpine, who lost the plot ages ago, has posted another rant about SNP corruption over the leadership election If any cunt only wants Scottish Independence on his terms then it's that bawbag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Orraloon said: To be fair to Humza, the way the potential industrial action in the NHS has been handled in Scotland has been far, far better than the shit show that is going on down south. It now looks like there will be no strikes before the end of March. Hopefully none at all? Which at least sees us through the worst of winter. I'm not sure how much direct involvement Humza has had in these negotiations but we should give credit to all those involved. NHS management, the unions and the workforce all deserve some praise for the way they have behaved throughout this difficult time. I still don't want Humza as First Minister though. Credit to him for that, but engaging with the trade unions is the bare minimum any responsible government minister should do. The fact that the Tories won't even entertain the idea just highlights how unsuitable they are to be in government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted February 18, 2023 Author Share Posted February 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: I see Robin McAlpine, who lost the plot ages ago, has posted another rant about SNP corruption over the leadership election If any cunt only wants Scottish Independence on his terms then it's that bawbag I’ve seen this 4 1/2 months nonsense from a few people now, who all seem to have one thing in common, they are supporting Ashten Regan. Call me cynical but it seems to be getting their excuses in for when she loses badly or neglects to stand - much in the same way that Joanna Cherry claims she was unfairly blocked from standing for Edinburgh Central. I’ve just been checking the time line for the last two leadership elections triggered by the incumbent resigning. When Salmond resigned, nominations opened on the 24th September, closed three weeks later on 15th October with one nomination, Nicola Sturgeon, so there was no need for an election. When Swinney resigned in 2004, nominations were opened on 22 June - Salmond did not announce his candidacy until 15th July, voting opened on the 13th August and closed on 3rd September. This time around we have a week for nominations to come in and then 5 weeks of voting. During the nomination process individual candidates can of course campaign, but they’re no “organised campaign” as not all candidates are known. It shouldn’t take longer than a week for someone to decide whether they want to stand or not, have a discussion with their family and gain an understanding of what their likely support will be and whether or not it’s worth them standing. Anyone saying that the programme, timetable or whatever is fixed is talking pish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Humza is in. So it begins….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, slasher said: Humza is in. So it begins….. And Ash Regan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 40 minutes ago, slasher said: Humza is in. So it begins….. Certainly has given the Yoonatics with Rangers on their bio something to laugh at Surely he has no chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 16 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Certainly has given the Yoonatics with Rangers on their bio something to laugh at Surely he has no chance He’s not leadership material for me. However I don’t really get the vitriol directed towards him if I’m honest. He’s held two really difficult briefs reasonably well as far as I can see 🤷🏼♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 1 hour ago, slasher said: He’s not leadership material for me. However I don’t really get the vitriol directed towards him if I’m honest. He’s held two really difficult briefs reasonably well as far as I can see 🤷🏼♂️ Aye As i said before the criteria for the next SNP leader is that you could see them being First Minister on the first day of Independence And thats definitely not him That Anne McGlaughlin is a zoomer as well - she was first in saying he was her choice The problem with the SNP is that there are too many folk in it where Independence is not in their orbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 18 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Aye As i said before the criteria for the next SNP leader is that you could see them being First Minister on the first day of Independence And thats definitely not him That Anne McGlaughlin is a zoomer as well - she was first in saying he was her choice The problem with the SNP is that there are too many folk in it where Independence is not in their orbit Above all, I think, we need a firebrand to instil some passion back into the whole thing. Emotion drives everything forward and it’s been sadly lacking for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 8 hours ago, slasher said: He’s not leadership material for me. However I don’t really get the vitriol directed towards him if I’m honest. He’s held two really difficult briefs reasonably well as far as I can see 🤷🏼♂️ Your last sentence may well be correct but I don't think it's the perception. I think a lot of that is due to the Scottish media which gives any SNP minister a hard time and personalises issues in a way that is quite different to how things are reported in England. Contrast with Jeremy Hunt who was an absolute disaster as Health Minister but didn't get the same level of criticism from a compliant press, who bizarrely is regarded as 'a safe pair of hands' and despite his incompetence with Health was rewarded with a promotion to Chancellor of the Exchequer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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