AlfieMoon Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 39 minutes ago, aaid said: I think you misunderstand that meme. I’m not suggesting you’re a liar, I’m suggesting that you’re becoming a bit unhinged here. Takes one to know one as they say 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 14 minutes ago, aaid said: I’m someone who can choose to ignore an MP’s or MSP’s endorsement if I want, the same as pretty much anyone I guess. If you can't see there is something not right about the over promotion of Yousaf then i'm happy to be unhinged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted March 22, 2023 Author Share Posted March 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, AlfieMoon said: Takes one to know one as they say 😂 Fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted March 22, 2023 Author Share Posted March 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: If you can't see there is something not right about the over promotion of Yousaf then i'm happy to be unhinged As I’ve said many times, I think all the candidates are sub-optimal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1 hour ago, aaid said: I’m someone who can choose to ignore an MP’s or MSP’s endorsement if I want, the same as pretty much anyone I guess. Strange doesn’t come across like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted March 22, 2023 Author Share Posted March 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, hampden_loon2878 said: Strange doesn’t come across like that My opinion of Yousaf hasn’t changed, neither has that of Regan, Forbes has got right down in my estimation though. Criticism of one candidate shouldn’t be taken as support for another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted March 22, 2023 Author Share Posted March 22, 2023 On 2/21/2023 at 12:07 PM, aaid said: The only thing I’m certain of is that in this election is that there is absolutely no way that Ash Regan is getting my vote, all I’m trying to decide is whether or not to put her third or not to vote for her at all. I’m sure that once she starts to be questioned you’ll realise how vacuous she is. On 2/21/2023 at 1:28 PM, aaid said: The problem I am having right now is working out whether I should vote for someone whose views I - in general - agree with but don’t think is fundamentally up to the job or someone who I think is better capable - although that is shrinking by the day - to be FM and leader but some of whose views I find objectionable and don’t trust. For those that can’t work that out, it’s Humza Yousaf and Kate Forbes in that order. For reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan II Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 6 hours ago, Alibi said: I think they'd work well as a team. Kate would be a decent FM but I don't see her as being aggressive enough to stand up to WM; Ash would also make a good FM but clearly she's cut from a different cloth. I think together they would have the right assets to win back voters who might have been scared off by the recent shenanigans. If Kate wins she should hand over the constitution minister post to Ash; if Ash wins, she could do worse than having Kate back in the finance position which I think is probably her area of most strength. Take on WM as a sort of good cop, bad cop pairing. Cagney and Lacey with a tartan twist. Would certainly be a lot more interesting than post-2017 Sturgeonism. And whoever wins needs to bring the whole indy movement up to the right end of the pitch. Yeah, this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 7 hours ago, hampden_loon2878 said: The man will be a train wreck as FM, he has a purpose in government but leading it is not it He has no purpose in government. He's a car crash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcguffin Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 On 3/21/2023 at 3:01 PM, aaid said: Katy Balls is the political editor of the Spectator. That should tell you everything you need to know. I'm not sure what that tells us? A couple of days ago all three leadership candidates appeared on the LBC hustings hosted by Iain Dale, who also writes for The Spectator. Does tell us that that Ash, Humza and Kate are secretly Tory plants? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share Posted March 23, 2023 I’ll just leave this here. Whoever takes over will have a hard act to follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcguffin Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 I found the recording of the LBC Hustings I mentioned. It's actually not bad if anyone's interested: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Maybe anecdotal however I have spoken to lots of folk that have said they would vote snp again if Kate gets in. She definitely bridges over to non snp voters,, she is definitely the more appealing to the wider public Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 OK as an excercise I made a note of all of "smitty's" claims. I'm recovering from an injury/illness so have a bit of time so thought would keep an eye on this. The first verifiable one that "Sturgeon will be on the backbenches by next FMQ's" hasn't materalised. This would happen because "her positions is no longer tenable" as big stories will come out that she can't survive. If Peter Murrell isn't arrested in the next 24 hours that's another one falsified. Now of course the timing might just be out so need to let the play run out a bit, but this is exactly the same rhetorical shape that Q-anon took in America. Now of course human psychology tells us that most folk won't then change their mind they will instead "double down" As most famously is demonstrated by the cult "The seekers" , see "when prophecy fails" as the textbook for these sort of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share Posted March 23, 2023 20 minutes ago, phart said: OK as an excercise I made a note of all of "smitty's" claims. I'm recovering from an injury/illness so have a bit of time so thought would keep an eye on this. The first verifiable one that "Sturgeon will be on the backbenches by next FMQ's" hasn't materalised. This would happen because "her positions is no longer tenable" as big stories will come out that she can't survive. If Peter Murrell isn't arrested in the next 24 hours that's another one falsified. Now of course the timing might just be out so need to let the play run out a bit, but this is exactly the same rhetorical shape that Q-anon took in America. Now of course human psychology tells us that most folk won't then change their mind they will instead "double down" As most famously is demonstrated by the cult "The seekers" , see "when prophecy fails" as the textbook for these sort of things. The one thing that has been consistent with the StuAnon conspiracies over the last three or four years is that either the promised actions, events or disclosures haven’t happened or if they have done they’ve been shown to either be false or immaterial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 3 hours ago, aaid said: I’ll just leave this here. Whoever takes over will have a hard act to follow. Sturgeon also had the fortune of the post 2014 surge in SNP support. The three candidates are poor. The only one remotely capable is Forbes. The other two would be a complete car crash. Which is a damning illustration of the calibre of MSP in her cabinet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 3 hours ago, hampden_loon2878 said: Maybe anecdotal however I have spoken to lots of folk that have said they would vote snp again if Kate gets in. She definitely bridges over to non snp voters,, she is definitely the more appealing to the wider public The polar opposite of the other two numptys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: Sturgeon also had the fortune of the post 2014 surge in SNP support. To be fair, she did help to create that surge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapofGlencoe Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 4 hours ago, aaid said: I’ll just leave this here. Whoever takes over will have a hard act to follow. my goodness amongst SNP voters, all three are actively disliked by a third. Doesn't bode well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaundy Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 If folk really believe a Private School* cunt or an Oxbridge product are the way to self determination for Scotland then …. 😬😂 *they’re not all cuntish, some are just dicks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: The polar opposite of the other two numptys. The biggest obstacle to Forbes running a successful government if elected is some of the roasters snp msp’s. I wouldn’t put it past some not to vote her in as first minister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeedom Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, hampden_loon2878 said: The biggest obstacle to Forbes running a successful government if elected is some of the roasters snp msp’s. I wouldn’t put it past some not to vote her in as first minister What is it exactly that you like about her? She's not exactly a die hard independence campaigner. She's a privately educated, religious fundamentalist careerist politician. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Freeedom said: What is it exactly that you like about her? She's not exactly a die hard independence campaigner. She's a privately educated, religious fundamentalist careerist politician. For me; Clever Good Speaker Forceful Possible ability to appeal across the divide Good optics Honest (so far) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcguffin Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Freeedom said: What is it exactly that you like about her? She's not exactly a die hard independence campaigner. She's a privately educated, religious fundamentalist careerist politician. As someone stated earlier in this thread, she went to Dingwall Academy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcguffin Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Ally Bongo said: For me; Clever Good Speaker Forceful Possible ability to appeal across the divide Good optics Honest (so far) I'd agree with all that. I'd maybe add that she might have an appeal to voters from the Highlands and Islands too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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