craig gordon

[ceudmilefailte]

3 hours ago, Caledonian Craig said:

Who said anything about people dying? Think it is you losing the plot as I never said any such thing.

Question for you? If Gunn is so shit hot and so much better than Clark and Kelly why has nobody on this forum been screaming for Gunn's inclusion before now? That tells me he is less than shit hot - quite a lot less.

Also it is a case of true double standards (not you but those that mentioned it before) how experience matters and Clarke should have tried other keepers out as capping them would have helped. Well Clark and Kelly have much more club experience than Gunn so another thing they have over him.

Anyways Gunn is not in the equation and its now up to Clarke to decide between Clark and Kelly. Clark will get the nod I feel as he'll have had a good run of games running up to the qualifiers beginning.

For what it's worth I don't see Clarke calling him up and even if he did Gunn would say no,

He's still young enough to imagine he will become an all time England great so there is zero chance of him asking for a cap. It took me untill my early fifties to realise I would never become world darts champion.

One thing though,  does playing for St Johnstone against St Mirren or Motherwell against Ross County count for much when it comes to club experience?

Personaly prefer Kelly even though Clark seems to be the flavour of the month on here.

[dan cake]

15 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said:

Personaly prefer Kelly even though Clark seems to be the flavour of the month on here.

Must be more Scottish 

[ghorne67]

4 hours ago, Caledonian Craig said:

There are an equal number we have tried poaching without success just that we tend to want to forget them. Even in recent times what happened to those being touted in Ashley Barnes and Tino Livramento?

Presume you mean Harvey Barnes? Played once for England but still eligible to switch. Would walk into the team ahead of Christie. Livramento hasn't kicked a ball in ages. Funnily enough, when he first got injured we were crying out for a RB. Now we've got a queue the length of the Links Market for that position. 

[Caledonian Craig]

26 minutes ago, ghorne67 said:

Presume you mean Harvey Barnes? Played once for England but still eligible to switch. Would walk into the team ahead of Christie. Livramento hasn't kicked a ball in ages. Funnily enough, when he first got injured we were crying out for a RB. Now we've got a queue the length of the Links Market for that position. 

No thanks to both. We have better Scottish options thanks.

Apologies to Barnes and Livramento saying no thanks as that is presuming ludicrously that they'd turn their backs on their counties of birth who they have represented 50+ times and have probably set foot in Scotland about as many times as McBurnie has had a shot on target for us.

[csinclair]

Livramento will probably end up playing for Portugal if anything if he can regain his form and fitness

[ProudScot]

1 hour ago, ceudmilefailte said:

For what it's worth I don't see Clarke calling him up and even if he did Gunn would say no,

He's still young enough to imagine he will become an all time England great so there is zero chance of him asking for a cap. It took me untill my early fifties to realise I would never become world darts champion.

One thing though,  does playing for St Johnstone against St Mirren or Motherwell against Ross County count for much when it comes to club experience?

Personaly prefer Kelly even though Clark seems to be the flavour of the month on here.

Agree on Kelly. Clark is fairly pish I think. 

McCrorie is the man hope to fcuk he gets made Rangers keeper or gets a move. Kelly & McCrorie going forward 👍🏾

[Bzzzz]

6 hours ago, scotlad said:

Not as embarrassing as being so hard up for goalkeepers that we're selecting second and third choice goalies from SPFL clubs.

 

Yes it is, it is FAR worse. 

[thesaint]

1 hour ago, ceudmilefailte said:

For what it's worth I don't see Clarke calling him up and even if he did Gunn would say no,

He's still young enough to imagine he will become an all time England great so there is zero chance of him asking for a cap. It took me untill my early fifties to realise I would never become world darts champion.

One thing though,  does playing for St Johnstone against St Mirren or Motherwell against Ross County count for much when it comes to club experience?

Personaly prefer Kelly even though Clark seems to be the flavour of the month on here.

Don't know about being young enough but he surely isn't mad enough to believe  he can still become an all time england great.If he does he should be pulling on a straight jacket and not a goalkeepers shirt.Love it.

[thesaint]

11 minutes ago, Bzzzz said:

Yes it is, it is FAR worse. 

Far Far Far worse.Think you were a wee bit short on the fars there.

[Bzzzz]

11 hours ago, thesaint said:

Far Far Far worse.Think you were a wee bit short on the fars there.

New Year's resolution, to be FAR FAR less understated in my posts in 2023. 

[syecosse]

Lots of papers and on Twitter is that Gunn is wanting to play for Scotland. 

 

[dan cake]

17 minutes ago, syecosse said:

Lots of papers and on Twitter is that Gunn is wanting to play for Scotland. 

 

Hertz sniffing about him, popcorn time 🍿 

[csinclair]

30 minutes ago, syecosse said:

Lots of papers and on Twitter is that Gunn is wanting to play for Scotland. 

 

Seems to all be stemming from an article in the scottish sun so could just be a load of shite

[todd]

1 hour ago, syecosse said:

Lots of papers and on Twitter is that Gunn is wanting to play for Scotland. 

 

According to The Record 'He's ready to don the dark blue'  May cause a bit of confusion in defence.

[ghorne67]

Looking forward to the meltdown by some folks once Gunn gets called up! 

[ParisInAKilt]

Long as he’s committed moving forward then him playing for England and saying no a few times will be forgotten by most, especially if he helps us win games and make 2024. 

[thesaint]

1 hour ago, todd said:

According to The Record 'He's ready to don the dark blue'  May cause a bit of confusion in defence.

Surely not. Thought he was so honourable in his decision to play for england no matter what. Anyway the wind blows eh! 

[Third Lanark]

7 minutes ago, ghorne67 said:

Looking forward to the meltdown by some folks once Gunn gets called up! 

Yes, we'll get the tiresome "Is he Scottish"? debate. If we were to take this shibboleth:

Can he pronunce the following surnames correctly: Irvine, Murdoch, Sinclair, Dalziel? If that were to be the basis, I'm willing to bet that 98% of our squad ,including  native-born Scots would fail it.

In my young day the dichotomy was between 'home' Scots and so-called 'Anglos.' We never hear that now.

If Gunn is eligible and wants to play, AND HE'S BETTER THAN WHAT HE HAVE,we take him.

[thesaint]

1 hour ago, Third Lanark said:

Yes, we'll get the tiresome "Is he Scottish"? debate. If we were to take this shibboleth:

Can he pronunce the following surnames correctly: Irvine, Murdoch, Sinclair, Dalziel? If that were to be the basis, I'm willing to bet that 98% of our squad ,including  native-born Scots would fail it.

In my young day the dichotomy was between 'home' Scots and so-called 'Anglos.' We never hear that now.

If Gunn is eligible and wants to play, AND HE'S BETTER THAN WHAT HE HAVE,we take him.

It's came to this.Very sad. 

[mccaughey85]

4 hours ago, dan cake said:

Hertz sniffing about him, popcorn time 🍿 

Hearts want gunn? 

[ghorne67]

1 hour ago, Third Lanark said:

Yes, we'll get the tiresome "Is he Scottish"? debate. If we were to take this shibboleth:

Can he pronunce the following surnames correctly: Irvine, Murdoch, Sinclair, Dalziel? If that were to be the basis, I'm willing to bet that 98% of our squad ,including  native-born Scots would fail it.

In my young day the dichotomy was between 'home' Scots and so-called 'Anglos.' We never hear that now.

If Gunn is eligible and wants to play, AND HE'S BETTER THAN WHAT HE HAVE,we take him.

It's the notion that you can only have affection for one country, even if you come from a diverse background, that I find strange. The Scotland team is meant to be a selection of the most talented players who are eligible to play for Scotland, not some Alba Party XI. 

[dan cake]

28 minutes ago, ghorne67 said:

It's the notion that you can only have affection for one country, even if you come from a diverse background, that I find strange. The Scotland team is meant to be a selection of the most talented players who are eligible to play for Scotland, not some Alba Party XI. 

👍 Scottish virtue signaling

[thesaint]

2 hours ago, dan cake said:

👍 Scottish virtue signaling

Lets start a list of your favourite international teams

1 SCOTLAND(presumably) 

2 ???? 

3.???? 

4???? 

5???? 

Ah. The modern football fans. Got to love them. 

 

 

 

 

[scotlad]

4 hours ago, ghorne67 said:

It's the notion that you can only have affection for one country, even if you come from a diverse background, that I find strange. The Scotland team is meant to be a selection of the most talented players who are eligible to play for Scotland, not some Alba Party XI. 

That's far too sensible for this thread.

Of course, the story could well be hogwash but if it's true I think it's good news.

[Hertsscot]

1 hour ago, thesaint said:

Lets start a list of your favourite international teams

1 SCOTLAND(presumably) 

2 ???? 

3.???? 

4???? 

5???? 

Ah. The modern football fans. Got to love them. 

Little bit simplistic. Someone like Livramento was born in one country with parents from two other countries. People can have different allegiances and I guess over time those allegiances get sorted out and prioritised. Whoever plays for us, if they commit to us, we should support.