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7 hours ago, scotlad said:

Aye, that's right, drug dealers and robbers are renowned for their gentle natures.

 

4 hours ago, vanderark14 said:

Nope

 

 

Fair enough, definitely higher than I expected. 

I don’t think it changes the point about men being housed in women’s prisons though. 

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23 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said:

 

Fair enough, definitely higher than I expected. 

I don’t think it changes the point about men being housed in women’s prisons though. 

Yeah it's not the main thing that was being debated. I was just wondering so went and checked.

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14 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said:

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/trans-woman-battered-male-inmate-28511707

One of the 15 men in female prisons. 

How anyone can say that is acceptable is beyond me.

 

What’s your problem with that? That she kicked the shite out the guy, or that she didn’t get the shite kicked out of herself?

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I am expecting SNP MP Lisa Cameron at the very least to lose the SNP whip for asking her Colonial master to intervene and undermine the Scottish Parliament

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4 minutes ago, Malcolm said:


entirely unacceptable and need immediate resolution by the first minister, irrespective if it upsets her lefty friends in the greens.

 

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/ex-prisoner-shaking-fear-sharing-29075541

 

It's interesting the record doesn't go into detail about what she was inside for but it sounds like the women she was housed with should be more scared of her.

https://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/news/17613689.woman-set-trial-accused-serious-assault-greenock-bowling-club/

 

Men as well.

https://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/news/17280440.mum-told-must-hundreds-hours-unpaid-work----jailed/


Sounds as if she has also got some form here as well.

 

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The power of this rhetoric can be demonstrated by Amanda Benson (currently She-Ra) of Inverclyde, mother of 4 and admin of Facebook covid Support Group “Heart of Inverclyde”.

Adopting the term TERF (Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist) and wearing it proudly, Benson who has a history of violence towards men and women alike, also insists that early transition is a form of “child abuse” stating: [I] hate seeing this children being allowed puberty blockers and hormones and stuff without proper counselling first.

Her argument stems directly from discussion regarding the rights of MtF transgender people and whether they should wear a badge of identification. Benson’s direct reference to Ms Jacobsen’s Tiktok being the literal background to her argument she insists:

https://philippa-cooper88.medium.com/transphobia-is-getting-worse-i-can-prove-it-38629208d235


Anti-vaxxer as well.

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In direct response to vaccination measures in schools, and proposed changes to the social education of youngsters in Scotland, Greenock Local Amanda Benson continues in her mission to “protect the children of Inverclyde” from what she deems to be harmful rhetoric. A group of 237 adults as of 21/09/2021, concerned and panicked constituents of Inverclyde turn to Benson/ Sigmund, a character in Greenock known for her erratic behaviour. With multiple arrests for assault and, in contrast, multiple charitable endeavour’s under her belt, she looks to provide support in a world of disinformation in her newly formed group Let Me Be Frank.

The once 20,000 strong Hearts of Inverclyde set up to battle the community issues caused by Co-vid has since disbanded for reasons unknown. However, before its closure or removal, group admin Amanda Benson remains resolute in her last message; Inverclyde requires an anti-vax, anti-trans outlet.

https://philippa-cooper88.medium.com/scottish-constituency-marred-by-transphobia-afd923ed1375


In summary, a violent nutter.

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13 minutes ago, aaid said:

It's interesting the record doesn't go into detail about what she was inside for but it sounds like the women she was housed with should be more scared of her.

https://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/news/17613689.woman-set-trial-accused-serious-assault-greenock-bowling-club/

 

Men as well.

https://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/news/17280440.mum-told-must-hundreds-hours-unpaid-work----jailed/


Sounds as if she has also got some form here as well.

 

https://philippa-cooper88.medium.com/transphobia-is-getting-worse-i-can-prove-it-38629208d235


Anti-vaxxer as well.

https://philippa-cooper88.medium.com/scottish-constituency-marred-by-transphobia-afd923ed1375


In summary, a violent nutter.


matters not a jot - entirely irrelevant.  She should be able to be in a safe prison without being subjected to a man and his erect penis in the shower block.


absolutely zero wrong with being an anti vaxer.  Let’s see what happens in the long term on that one.

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8 minutes ago, Malcolm said:


matters not a jot - entirely irrelevant.  She should be able to be in a safe prison without being subjected to a man and his erect penis in the shower block.


absolutely zero wrong with being an anti vaxer.  Let’s see what happens in the long term on that one.

If a biased violent thug with dodgy extremist views is who you see as a poster girl then god help you.

In fact, I’d suspect that article is a pile of lies, or at least her “testimony”is. 

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1 minute ago, aaid said:

If a biased violent thug with dodgy extremist views is who you see as a poster girl then god help you.


her views are irrelevant and in what way is she a poster girl?  She’s a female being exposed to a male in a womens prison.  This is wrong and should be addressed urgently.  It matters not a jot if she was a serial killer.

you are displaying blind loyalty to the snp and sturgeon. The extremist views I’m seeing is trans experimentation putting males in womens prisons.

next up is Andrew burns… or now Tiffany Scott….   Let’s see what Nicola decides to do with him.  Ideological claptrap which is clouding the Scottish government and SPS.  The uk government has got this 100percent right.  It’s not difficult.

 

 

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18 minutes ago, aaid said:

You don’t think “violent thug” is an appropriate way to describe someone with multiple offences for assault?

It was more the relevance of her index offences and being an “anti vaxxer” to what she’s saying, unless that makes her a liar, which is potentially correct I suppose but it’s not like her story is unrealistic these days 

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19 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said:

It was more the relevance of her index offences and being an “anti vaxxer” to what she’s saying, unless that makes her a liar, which is potentially correct I suppose but it’s not like her story is unrealistic these days 

It’s more about whether or not article bears any resemblance to the truth.

For a start, I guess there weren’t any incidents that happened with these transwomen, if there were, that would have been the main focus of the article.

From her background, she clearly has problems with transwomen in general, so she’s not an impartial commentator in that respect.  Her record of violence would bring into question her claims of shaking with fear and the like.  

It only took five minutes to google “Amanda benson Inverkip”, im sure if you were to dig further, you could come up with a lot more.

if this were a court case, she would not be a credible witness.  

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11 minutes ago, aaid said:

It’s more about whether or not article bears any resemblance to the truth.

For a start, I guess there weren’t any incidents that happened with these transwomen, if there were, that would have been the main focus of the article.

From her background, she clearly has problems with transwomen in general, so she’s not an impartial commentator in that respect.  Her record of violence would bring into question her claims of shaking with fear and the like.  

It only took five minutes to google “Amanda benson Inverkip”, im sure if you were to dig further, you could come up with a lot more.

if this were a court case, she would not be a credible witness.  

Very few, if any impartial commentators in this anymore. But here we are unfortunately. 

She probably wouldn’t be but at the same time just because someone has a history of violence, doesn’t mean they can’t be fearful of others, always someone bigger and stronger than you etc. 

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2 hours ago, Malcolm said:


her views are irrelevant and in what way is she a poster girl?  She’s a female being exposed to a male in a womens prison.  This is wrong and should be addressed urgently.  It matters not a jot if she was a serial killer.

you are displaying blind loyalty to the snp and sturgeon. The extremist views I’m seeing is trans experimentation putting males in womens prisons.

next up is Andrew burns… or now Tiffany Scott….   Let’s see what Nicola decides to do with him.  Ideological claptrap which is clouding the Scottish government and SPS.  The uk government has got this 100percent right.  It’s not difficult.

 

 

Here you go Malky. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64444530

That's almost exactly the same system as England has. Not that the two systems were ever that much different in the first place.  You can safely go back to voting SNP again. 😉

None of this stuff has got anything to do with the GRR (Scotland) Bill, though.

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10 minutes ago, Orraloon said:

Here you go Malky. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64444530

That's almost exactly the same system as England has. Not that the two systems were ever that much different in the first place.  You can safely go back to voting SNP again. 😉

None of this stuff has got anything to do with the GRR (Scotland) Bill, though.

 

Thankfully looking like some sense has prevailed! 

i agree that this isn’t directly related to GRR, but this has brought the issue in to sharper focus.  We should now revisit the equality act 2010.

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said:

Almost like they hadn't thought this through/making it up as they go along.

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A policy that the Tories introduced ?

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Haven’t read most on here today but what I noticed was the line 

‘ deserve to be housed with trans women’  

IMO this is an example  I have witnessed of conflating a tiny minority, tran sexual, with deviance. 
I am not surprised myself, quite reassured actually , that prison is occupied by a fair number of folk who are a danger to the general community.   

Predictable of the UK establishment , after ‘14 for picking a strategy in their forever divisive way. They are deviant historically. 
It’s been mentioned the total transgender prison population in Scotland is about a rugby team (Union). 
 

When it comes to deviant human sexual behaviour and all it’s ways one must accept the UK is world 🌎 power 

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