Squirrelhumper Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 48 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: Why is this such an issue for you? A rapist being in a female prison? Why's it not an issue for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 22 minutes ago, EddardStark said: Alan Cumming has returned his OBE. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-64426465 Good on him, wish more did likewise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Just now, Squirrelhumper said: A rapist being in a female prison? Why's it not an issue for you? No it's not an issue at all. The rapist is probably more at risk from other inmates if he gets anywhere near them to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) This is the precise reason the unionist media operate the way they do. Press all the trigger buttons using false info to shine a bad light on anything the Scottish Government/SNP bad and poison minds against independence. I refuse to be programmed how to think by unionist media. Sadly, with a good few others it seems to be working. Edited January 27, 2023 by Caledonian Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 16 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: Your ability to see no wrong anything related to the SG I'd staggering. Fair play, reminds me of Ramy in anything celtic related. It’s the way that Reporting Scotland - and BBC Scotland in general frame stories. I’ve just watched BBC lunchtime news and there was a really interesting piece on about eating disorders and the people who have died from them. It didn’t even mention the UKG in it, because it’s not relevant to the piece. If a similar piece had been put together for BBC Scotland the focus would’ve been on getting impacted people on to complain about the SG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 5 hours ago, aaid said: Change the fucking record. The only difference between you and Tartan_Tonna is he does multimedia ranting. Away and protest at Banff Academy, the comment above is as laughable as you falling hook, line and sinker for that pile of shite as well. There are currently 15 trans people in Scottish Prisons. Some are housed in men’s prisons and some are housed in women’s. The cat of Banff was indeed true. But the oracle says otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 The state of that Green Party political broadcast last night. The gink with two massive holes in his/her ears saying “we should eat the rich”. ffs if that’s the level of Green Party politics they need to up their game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Och Aye Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 4 hours ago, aaid said: No, they’ve already made the decisions. Yes that's what I meant. No big hullabaloo with these 15 cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 3 hours ago, vanderark14 said: No it's not an issue at all. The rapist is probably more at risk from other inmates if he gets anywhere near them to begin with. In a female jail a Rapist is the one at risk? Are you serious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: In a female jail a Rapist is the one at risk? Are you serious? I'm quite sure a few of those inmates would happily stab a male rapist. These aren't women having afternoon tea at the Dome. Edited January 27, 2023 by vanderark14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 One good thing that might come out of this, is that almost nobody gave a fuk about female prisoners (or male ones for that matter) until now. Now there are loads of folk jumping on the "rights of female prisoners" band wagon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, Orraloon said: One good thing that might come out of this, is that almost nobody gave a fuk about female prisoners (or male ones for that matter) until now. Now there are loads of folk jumping on the "rights of female prisoners" band wagon. And they’ll be jumping right off if when the SNP bring forwards legislation to improve the rate of rape convictions - which is a point that Nicola Sturgeon made today.Stephen Kerr springs to mind for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, aaid said: And they’ll be jumping right off if when the SNP bring forwards legislation to improve the rate of rape convictions - which is a point that Nicola Sturgeon made today.Stephen Kerr springs to mind for some reason. Is that the same legislation used for salmond ? Edited January 27, 2023 by hampden_loon2878 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 2 hours ago, vanderark14 said: I'm quite sure a few of those inmates would happily stab a male rapist. These aren't women having afternoon tea at the Dome. boo hoo, how sad, never mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 4 hours ago, vanderark14 said: I'm quite sure a few of those inmates would happily stab a male rapist. These aren't women having afternoon tea at the Dome. Oh that's OK then. Let's just ignore the inmates that are extremely vulnerable. He's a MALE Rapist who was in a female prison. No amount of what ifs make thar remotely right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 11 hours ago, vanderark14 said: No it's not an issue at all. The rapist is probably more at risk from other inmates if he gets anywhere near them to begin with. It’s not prisoner cell block H 😂 Most women in prison are for drug offences and theft I think and have experienced abuse from men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/trans-woman-battered-male-inmate-28511707 One of the 15 men in female prisons. How anyone can say that is acceptable is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 7 hours ago, ParisInAKilt said: It’s not prisoner cell block H 😂 Most women in prison are for drug offences and theft I think and have experienced abuse from men. Exactly. Folk are too entrenched in their scottish government can do no wrong mindset that they are actually coming out like the shite above to justify terrible legislation/decision making. Stuff like this will become more and more common, dangerous people chancing their arm and clowns like Rpss Greer falling over themselves to facilitate it. Worst thing SNP ever did was get into government with the greens as they now need to pander to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 16 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: Exactly. Folk are too entrenched in their scottish government can do no wrong mindset that they are actually coming out like the shite above to justify terrible legislation/decision making. Stuff like this will become more and more common, dangerous people chancing their arm and clowns like Rpss Greer falling over themselves to facilitate it. Worst thing SNP ever did was get into government with the greens as they now need to pander to them. 100% this. The greens are calling the shots and they are a far left Marxist bunch. What’s most amusing is the blind loyalty people show to the SNP even in the face of such lunacy. if you haven’t seen how lunatic the greens are watch their party political broadcast from this week, where they have someone (not sure if it’s male or female) talking about eating the rich. oh for the days when the greens were about saving whales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 the SNP are all over the place now, it’s a shambles. MSPs when questioned specifically around the recent prison issue try to palm it off as an SPS “risk assessment” decision. no way that there wasn’t government involvement in this. Apparently SPS initially recommended a male prison - so who overturned this decision and why? Who then changed this decision back. We need answers. as Jack McConnell said, there would have been ministerial involvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, Malcolm said: the SNP are all over the place now, it’s a shambles. MSPs when questioned specifically around the recent prison issue try to palm it off as an SPS “risk assessment” decision. no way that there wasn’t government involvement in this. Apparently SPS initially recommended a male prison - so who overturned this decision and why? Who then changed this decision back. We need answers. as Jack McConnell said, there would have been ministerial involvement. Malcolm you are a hypocritical ass. You are forever venting on here about SNP-bad which is friggin' hilarious considering your often drooling over Tories and right-wing policies. I am not sure how large you can make posts on this board but there'd be an endless one mulling over the total disaster that is Westminster governments since the late 1970s and yes those governments have included your three main unionist parties - Conservative, Labour and Lib Dems (when in coalition with the Tories). Policies that caused havoc and nationwide riots such as Poll Tax and closures of mines in the 1980s. Countless scandals such as paedophilia cover-ups within the Tory governments, cash for questions scandals, expenses scandals, tax evasions by senior ministers, corrupt prime ministers promoting companies they had shares in, taking the country into war based on pure lies, proroguing of parliament and government found in contempt. Privatisation that has failed on so many levels and everybody in the country is paying for it now in this energy price hike. But hey-ho you love all that. This thread has been taken over by too many with ulterior motives (adoration of Salmond) and desire to derail the push for independence. For me this ends here. I am out of here until the thread returns to what it was intended for - support for independence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) On 1/27/2023 at 11:01 AM, Squirrelhumper said: Yeah it's a Westminster conspiracy. Jesus wept. So you don't think the British government are using this issue to try and neutralise their opponents? 23 hours ago, aaid said: It’s the way that Reporting Scotland - and BBC Scotland in general frame stories. I’ve just watched BBC lunchtime news and there was a really interesting piece on about eating disorders and the people who have died from them. It didn’t even mention the UKG in it, because it’s not relevant to the piece. If a similar piece had been put together for BBC Scotland the focus would’ve been on getting impacted people on to complain about the SG. Spot on. There was an item on the 10 o'clock news last night about a hospital in Nottingham where, tragically, a newborn baby girl lived for only 23 minutes. The trust of which the hospital was part was fined £800k. A desperately sad story for everyone concerned; but neither the government or the health minister were mentioned once. There isn't a chance in hell that if such a tragedy happened in a Scottish hospital the health secretary's name wouldn't be put front and centre in the case. Edited January 28, 2023 by scotlad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 11 hours ago, ParisInAKilt said: It’s not prisoner cell block H 😂 Most women in prison are for drug offences and theft I think and have experienced abuse from men. Aye, that's right, drug dealers and robbers are renowned for their gentle natures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) Just as an indication if you go to the latest Scottish prison stats, woman in custody it states On the average day in 2021-22, 63% of women in the sentenced population had index offences[16] in Group 1 (Violence). Group 1 being : Crimes of Violence 'Homicide etc.' 'Attempted murder and serious assault' 'Robbery' 'Other non-sexual crimes of violence' Group 5 which includes drugs is 13% (Crimes against society) Not that it matters much, however the point is it only take 2 or 3 minutes to check. https://www.gov.scot/publications/scottish-prison-population-statistics-2021-22/pages/5/ Edited January 28, 2023 by phart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 14 hours ago, ParisInAKilt said: It’s not prisoner cell block H 😂 Most women in prison are for drug offences and theft I think and have experienced abuse from men. Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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