vanderark14 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, hampden_loon2878 said: Had it been a policy the general public were behind then yes however I honestly don’t believe the casual voter agrees with the policy. I would love to be proven wrong but the longer this drags on, the more the general public are starting to engage and from my experience they are against the policie. The only way that I see this having a positive bearing on independence is if some labour msp’s end up so disillusioned with WM they come out and support indy which is extremely unlikely I reckon the general public will forget it soon enough, its one of these issues that the general public just don;t understand, it will have zero effect on 99% of the people in scotland anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: I reckon the general public will forget it soon enough, its one of these issues that the general public just don;t understand, it will have zero effect on 99% of the people in scotland anyway. That was my hope that this would fizzle out and be forgotten but now it will be in the public aye for long enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Maggie Chapman wants children as young as eight to be helped to explore their gender identity - fucking lunatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Malcolm said: Maggie Chapman wants children as young as eight to be helped to explore their gender identity - fucking lunatic. Maggie chapman is an idiot but I am not sure why you felt the need to post this a 2nd time. Edited January 18, 2023 by vanderark14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: Maggie chapman is an idiot but I am not sure why you felt the need to post this a 2nd time. must be getting forgetful in my old age! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 This is an extremely pro Indy poster and all the polls he does is heavily voted on by pro Indy personnel so I have no reason to believe this poll is any different. What we are seeing with the pursuit of this policy at all costs is the general erosion of the belief that the Scottish Parliament is for the good of the Scottish people. Jim spence who iswas a massive independence supporter now questioning holyrood and asking what is it there for,, it is SO bad for holyrood and independence to go after a policy that the general public have no appetite for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 17 minutes ago, hampden_loon2878 said: This is an extremely pro Indy poster and all the polls he does is heavily voted on by pro Indy personnel so I have no reason to believe this poll is any different. What we are seeing with the pursuit of this policy at all costs is the general erosion of the belief that the Scottish Parliament is for the good of the Scottish people. Jim spence who iswas a massive independence supporter now questioning holyrood and asking what is it there for,, it is SO bad for holyrood and independence to go after a policy that the general public have no appetite for A Twitter poll 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 56 minutes ago, hampden_loon2878 said: At least he made it to the race David Cameron let him enter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 judging by the pace this thread is going at. I'd say the Tory plan is working out marvellously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 I'm no statistician but I suspect a twitter poll by the "black saltires" might contain a wee bit of selection bias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 42 minutes ago, hampden_loon2878 said: This is an extremely pro Indy poster and all the polls he does is heavily voted on by pro Indy personnel so I have no reason to believe this poll is any different. What we are seeing with the pursuit of this policy at all costs is the general erosion of the belief that the Scottish Parliament is for the good of the Scottish people. Jim spence who iswas a massive independence supporter now questioning holyrood and asking what is it there for,, it is SO bad for holyrood and independence to go after a policy that the general public have no appetite for " Jim Spence massive Indy Supporter" 😄 The cunt blocked me years ago for making an innocuous reply to one of his "massive indy supporter" posts He is a Unionist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, phart said: I'm no statistician but I suspect a twitter poll by the "black saltires" might contain a wee bit of selection bias. TBF, all Twitter polls have the same bias and should just be treated as a bit of fun and never used to try demonstrate support, other than within the reach of your Twitter - that doesn’t just include direct followers obviously but how your followers retweet and the like A few years ago we did a World Cup of pubs, selected the best pubs from around the country we’d been in in the last year while following our team. We then drew them into “matches” and posted them on Twitter. We realised pretty quickly that what was the deciding factor as to which pub won wasn’t how good it was but rather how much of an active social media presence it had - we tagged the pubs in. Still, it was a good laugh until Covid and we’ve never resurrected it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Ally Bongo said: " Jim Spence massive Indy Supporter" 😄 The cunt blocked me years ago for making an innocuous reply to one of his "massive indy supporter" posts He is a Unionist Spence lost the plot a long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 28 minutes ago, phart said: judging by the pace this thread is going at. I'd say the Tory plan is working out marvellously Or snp lack of sense coming to fruition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 43 minutes ago, aaid said: A Twitter poll 😂😂😂 It’s a twitter poll that always has a lopsided indy bias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 43 minutes ago, aaid said: David Cameron let him enter. Or Salmond gave him no option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 17 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: " Jim Spence massive Indy Supporter" 😄 The cunt blocked me years ago for making an innocuous reply to one of his "massive indy supporter" posts He is a Unionist No you are incorrect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 16 minutes ago, aaid said: Spence lost the plot a long time ago. Because he doesn’t see things in the same light as the oracle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 17 minutes ago, aaid said: TBF, all Twitter polls have the same bias and should just be treated as a bit of fun and never used to try demonstrate support, other than within the reach of your Twitter - that doesn’t just include direct followers obviously but how your followers retweet and the like A few years ago we did a World Cup of pubs, selected the best pubs from around the country we’d been in in the last year while following our team. We then drew them into “matches” and posted them on Twitter. We realised pretty quickly that what was the deciding factor as to which pub won wasn’t how good it was but rather how much of an active social media presence it had - we tagged the pubs in. Still, it was a good laugh until Covid and we’ve never resurrected it. They don't have the same magnitude of selection bias at all. However that's an esoteric statistical sampling debate. It's good enough for Elon Musk and he's a "genius" so who are we to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, phart said: They don't have the same magnitude of selection bias at all. However that's an esoteric statistical sampling debate. It's good enough for Elon Musk and he's a "genius" so who are we to disagree. Well, the selection bias with Elon Musk was people who hate Elon Musk, so he’s now restricting his polls to Twitter Blue subscribers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, phart said: judging by the pace this thread is going at. I'd say the Tory plan is working out marvellously Divide and conquer, one of the top strategies in the British establishment playbook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapofGlencoe Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 50 minutes ago, hampden_loon2878 said: Or Salmond gave him no option Scottish people overwhelming wanted a referendum, we hadn't had one before. It was a different time. There's folk on here depreciating Salmond's incredible accomplishments but can't pretend post 2014 is the same as pre 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapofGlencoe Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, phart said: judging by the pace this thread is going at. I'd say the Tory plan is working out marvellously Best post on here for a while. Too true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 3 hours ago, hampden_loon2878 said: At least he made it to the race He made it to the race only because Cameron offered him it..remove the Salmond love specs eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 21 hours ago, aaid said: Compared to “write it better then”? Both posts Stronger together 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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