vanderark14 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Just now, Bobby Russell's Lovechild said: Some of the euro qualifiers, and then it's too late, like every manager we've had since Craig Brown For me he deserves that chance at the Euros. If we start well, everyone will forget about today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzo Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Absolutely spineless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 We lack any real creativity; the only player in the squad who I think can create regular chances when we're lacking confidence would be Turnbull. He's got to play in Yerevan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eassy Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Did they no even go over and see the fans at the end? Absolute shocking move if they didn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Another thing that pisses me off - Clarke talking up Ireland pre-match. FFS they had not won a Nations League game until tonight yet Clarke was painting them as the invincibles. If that is his style in team talks then is it any wonder we play with such fear. The merit points Clarke had are all but gone now. I'd say we are back where we were two years ago. Scratching around for hope and positivity but no sign of it around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 I actually forgot the game was on today. Just not interested in this Nations League pish. Players must feel gutted after losing so meekly to Ukraine and maybe just could not lift themselves for what is a mickey mouse tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Just now, Clyde1998 said: We lack any real creativity; the only player in the squad who I think can create regular chances when we're lacking confidence would be Turnbull. He's got to play in Yerevan. I'd make big changes for that game and Turnbull would be one I'd like to see in the starting lineup. I think we the fans are also entitled to know if everything is ok behind the scenes, there is something about the players attitude today that has really spooked me out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eassy Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, Willie Miller's tache said: Robertson for Scotland is not the same as Robertson for Liverpool, gilmour’s not as good as we hoped he would be and mcginn is badly out of form. Plus our defenders and strikers are not v good. Ralston the only positive. I never like that criticism of Robertson, of course his performances for Scotland will be different to how he plays with one of the best sides in Europe, he’s doubled up on against most sides with no real willing runners around him, that being said every player should absolutely hang their heads after that tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 1 minute ago, thplinth said: I actually forgot the game was on today. Just not interested in this Nations League pish. Players must feel gutted after losing so meekly to Ukraine and maybe just could not lift themselves for what is a mickey mouse tournament. Unfortunately it’s probably our best chance of qualifying for the euros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eassy Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 1 minute ago, thplinth said: I actually forgot the game was on today. Just not interested in this Nations League pish. Players must feel gutted after losing so meekly to Ukraine and maybe just could not lift themselves for what is a mickey mouse tournament. Short memory, can be vitally important to nations at our level, which is lower than I thought after today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted June 11, 2022 Author Share Posted June 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, thplinth said: I actually forgot the game was on today. Just not interested in this Nations League pish. Players must feel gutted after losing so meekly to Ukraine and maybe just could not lift themselves for what is a mickey mouse tournament. A Mickey Mouse tournament that is basically our only chance of qualifying for a major tournament Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, Eassy said: I never like that criticism of Robertson, of course his performances for Scotland will be different to how he plays with one of the best sides in Europe, he’s doubled up on against most sides with no real willing runners around him, that being said every player should absolutely hang their heads after that tonight. Good players naturally play better around other good players. Also at club level you're training with your team mates every day, compared to roughly a week every two months at international level - so players won't (necessarily) have the same level of cohesion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjd1972 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Vladimir Petkovic is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted June 11, 2022 Author Share Posted June 11, 2022 Thankfully the pundits are saying the team was set up all wrong and changes didn’t come early enough in terms of shape or personnel, exactly like the Ukraine game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, ProudScot said: A Mickey Mouse tournament that is basically our only chance of qualifying for a major tournament We just finished 2nd in a world cup qualifying group. We can do that again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted June 11, 2022 Author Share Posted June 11, 2022 Just now, vanderark14 said: We just finished 2nd in a world cup qualifying group. We can do that again It is possible - this route is the only route we’ve qualified for in over 20 years though. Does 2nd get us direct entry without a playoff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Is a return to the 4-4-1-1 or 4-1-4-1 system that Smith and McLeish (Mk. I) used with some success the answer ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Just now, ProudScot said: It is possible - this route is the only route we’ve qualified for in over 20 years though. Does 2nd get us direct entry without a playoff? I'm sure it does but happy to be corrected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVIDB46 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 (edited) Think we are probably back to where we were two years ago, the fortunate euros qualification set expectation too high and at an unrealistic level as to where we really are . we will beat teams lower than us, fail too often against teams around our level. we won’t trouble second seed type teams , never mind top seeds Edited June 11, 2022 by DAVIDB46 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 14 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: For me he deserves that chance at the Euros. If we start well, everyone will forget about today The world cup was the one though, qualifying for another bloated Euros through the back door to go and lump the ball up front for 90 mins does nothing for no one. He needs to go tomorrow otherwise we waste a talented generation on another dinosaur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Just now, Mox said: The world cup was the one though, qualifying for another bloated Euros through the back door to go and lump the ball up front for 90 mins does nothing for no one. He needs to go tomorrow otherwise we waste a talented generation on another dinosaur. If we qualify for the euros I'd be over the fucking moon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Mox said: The world cup was the one though, qualifying for another bloated Euros through the back door to go and lump the ball up front for 90 mins does nothing for no one. He needs to go tomorrow otherwise we waste a talented generation on another dinosaur. Is it a talented generation though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Russell's Lovechild Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 19 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: For me he deserves that chance at the Euros. If we start well, everyone will forget about today What is we're absolutely shite for the rest of the nation's League campaign (which there is a strong possibility with two Ukraine games and another Ireland match)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scot1 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, ErsatzThistle said: Is a return to the 4-4-1-1 or 4-1-4-1 system that Smith and McLeish (Mk. I) used with some success the answer ? Clarke should’ve been transitioning to a back 4 a long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, ProudScot said: It is possible - this route is the only route we’ve qualified for in over 20 years though. Does 2nd get us direct entry without a playoff? Yes. But we are going to be in pot 3 now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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