Council elections - help!

[Orraloon]

15 minutes ago, phart said:

I voted for the free pencil!

If you started a Free Pencil party you might have a chance of winning a seat. 🤣

[hampden_loon2878]

5 hours ago, scotlad said:

Karen Adam?

It is interesting.  Like you said, the UKG pay very little attention to NI until something drastic - or potentially drastic - happens.  Partly, I think, because NI is that bit more remote than Scotland but mainly because Scotland is valuable to them, which NI no longer is (it was a century ago, though, which is why NI is a thing at all).

I was thinking to myself the other day that 20 years ago - maybe even more recently than that - a Sinn Fein government in Belfast and an SNP government in Edinburgh would be the stuff of "what-ifs"; now it is a distinct possibility!

Aye

[Dave78]

7 hours ago, aaid said:

Hijacking the thread but I’m amazed that there isn’t that much focus in the GB media on the elections in NI.  Mind you, the standard approach to NI from GB is to completely ignore it and then jump up and down when something happens that they didn’t see coming.

 

To be fair, BBC1 hosted their main 6 o'clock news broadcast from Belfast yesterday evening.

For the anti-protocol voxpop they went to the Shankill. When they wanted people to say how fed up with the old divisions they went to a Park Run (for all those lovely middle class Alliance voters). Can't remember where they did the Sinn Fein voters.

Never let it be said the BBC don't know exactly where to go to get the public opinions they want. Which is why of course they go to Moray/Aberdeenshire/Borders whenever they want to ask Scots about independence.

[scotlad]

1 hour ago, hampden_loon2878 said:

Aye

Cheers, I thought so 😂

[kumnio]

Just voted, probably at 21:45, from the look of it, turnout will have been absolute shite.

[weekevie04]

Seeing the Tories scelped across Scotland will never get boring.

Seems every party barring the Tories have something to be happy about in Scotland.

 

[Caledonian Craig]

24 minutes ago, weekevie04 said:

Seeing the Tories scelped across Scotland will never get boring.

Seems every party barring the Tories have something to be happy about in Scotland.

 

The Tories should rebrand themselves the English National Party as that is what gets them into power. Even Wales have shunned the Tories too.

[hampden_loon2878]

Never expected the tories to collapse like that up here, Labor for me is a scarier opposition to independence than the tories. Independece vs the tories is a lot easier than independence bs Labor 

[weekevie04]

Alba doing very poorly. How long will they last? Do they even have any councillors yet? 

[aaid]

8 minutes ago, weekevie04 said:

Alba doing very poorly. How long will they last? Do they even have any councillors yet? 

Not when I looked a few minutes ago and they’re generally polling between 1%-3%, which won’t help them at all.

They might pick up the odd one or two where they’ve a candidate with a very strong local profile but haven’t come close to that so far.

Chris McEleny just got turfed out in Inverclyde West, 126 FP votes.

[weekevie04]

10 minutes ago, aaid said:

Not when I looked a few minutes ago and they’re generally polling between 1%-3%, which won’t help them at all.

They might pick up the odd one or two where they’ve a candidate with a very strong local profile but haven’t come close to that so far.

Chris McEleny just got turfed out in Inverclyde West, 126 FP votes.

Him and Topping who was emptied earlier probably their best chance. 

Seems likely they'll get 0 councillors which has to be a bit of a minter for them 

[Toepoke]

11 minutes ago, aaid said:

Chris McEleny just got turfed out in Inverclyde West, 126 FP votes.

Should've realised the Cappielow hotseat was a poisoned chalice...

[hampden_loon2878]

31 minutes ago, weekevie04 said:

Alba doing very poorly. How long will they last? Do they even have any councillors yet? 

No and they won’t, won 3rd 1st preference votes in fraserburgh ward but that’s the most they will get,, they will be here until after the next election to see a referendum called or not called 

[TDYER63]

I had very little pro indy choice in my area. Just the 3 unionist parties and the SNP. 

[aaid]

27 minutes ago, Toepoke said:

Should've realised the Cappielow hotseat was a poisoned chalice...

Chris the “Morton fan”

[Lamia]

1 hour ago, hampden_loon2878 said:

No and they won’t, won 3rd 1st preference votes in fraserburgh ward but that’s the most they will get,, they will be here until after the next election to see a referendum called or not called 

Yeah because they have so much influence. They have been roundly rejected and it they can't see they are an irrelevance now then it just shows how delusional they are

[aaid]

Been watching a bit of the NI coverage.  Pundits seem pretty certain that SF won’t lose any of the seats they currently have, so it looks nailed on that they’ll be the largest party.

[hampden_loon2878]

40 minutes ago, Lamia said:

Yeah because they have so much influence. They have been roundly rejected and it they can't see they are an irrelevance now then it just shows how delusional they are

They will serve a purpose yet 

[Lairdyfaeinverclyde]

2 hours ago, TDYER63 said:

I had very little pro indy choice in my area. Just the 3 unionist parties and the SNP. 

I didn't have a choice, non-contested.

 

[aaid]

24 minutes ago, hampden_loon2878 said:

They will serve a purpose yet 

What exactly?

if you cant get elected or even come close to being elected, what is your purpose as a political party?

What is their strategy?

You can - to an extent - pass off last year’s Holyrood results as being down to them being a new party just formed before the election.  What’s the excuse this time, they’ve had a year to prepare for this and they’ve gone backwards?

Worth remembering that these have been two elections under a PR system which enables smaller parties to move forwards and not FPTP.

[TDYER63]

5 minutes ago, Lairdyfaeinverclyde said:

I didn't have a choice, non-contested.

 

In that case what have you been doing with your time ya lazy bassa , you have not been on here for ages 😁

 

[ErsatzThistle]

So much for the bad results the oracles were predicting for the SNP - they've only just gone and won more council seats in this election than they did at the last (2017) election.

Six SNP councillors in East Renfrewshire, twenty years ago that would have been thought crazy talk !

The (disowned) Tory candidate in the adjacent ward to mine made the news for all the wrong reasons - https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/20085178.tories-suspend-candidate-anti-catholic-comments/

Former head of the Orange Order elected was elected a Labour councillor in Lanarkshire. Let's see how they spin that one.

[hampden_loon2878]

29 minutes ago, aaid said:

What exactly?

if you cant get elected or even come close to being elected, what is your purpose as a political party?

What is their strategy?

You can - to an extent - pass off last year’s Holyrood results as being down to them being a new party just formed before the election.  What’s the excuse this time, they’ve had a year to prepare for this and they’ve gone backwards?

Worth remembering that these have been two elections under a PR system which enables smaller parties to move forwards and not FPTP.

They will be there for a referendum if it happens, say we gain independence  , they will be a new party in a indy scotland, if we lose there will be a post indy bounce for indy parties like 2015. If there is no referendum then the party will Hoover up votes from the snp.. they will be there waiting. Time will tell 

[hampden_loon2878]

8 minutes ago, ErsatzThistle said:

So much for the bad results the oracles were predicting for the SNP - they've only just gone and won more council seats in this election than they did at the last (2017) election.

Six SNP councillors in East Renfrewshire, twenty years ago that would have been thought crazy talk !

The (disowned) Tory candidate in the adjacent ward to mine made the news for all the wrong reasons - https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/20085178.tories-suspend-candidate-anti-catholic-comments/

Former head of the Orange Order elected was elected a Labour councillor in Lanarkshire. Let's see how they spin that one.

Last council elections were a disaster for the SNP hard for them to be have a worse result 

[scotlad]

Despite Labour/GMB's hatchet job, the SNP win Glasgow - by one seat!

Labour made a few gains, the Tories a few losses (including Mr Natalie McGarry, who lost his seat in Pollokshields) and the Greens now have 10 councillors.