ceudmilefailte Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: Yeh tbf it was a good performance from us that wasn't reliant on luck but I didnt consider Ukraine a top tier nation despite the world cup quarter final whereas Denmark definitely are a top tier nation right now. Also I would say our wins against Croatia were good performances that didn't rely on luck. Not sure where they rank in terms of best performances against top tier nations in recent years but they must be up there imo. Were both those games dead rubbers or just the second one, no idea were I got that idea from surely not possible for first one to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 minute ago, mccaughey85 said: Yeh tbf it was a good performance from us that wasn't reliant on luck but I didnt consider Ukraine a top tier nation despite the world cup quarter final whereas Denmark definitely are a top tier nation right now. Also I would say our wins against Croatia were good performances that didn't rely on luck. Not sure where they rank in terms of best performances against top tier nations in recent years but they must be up there imo. Would not say Denmark are a top tier nation, a VERY good side, but not in that elite group.... Euro 2020 they were the team everyone wanted to do well after what happened to Eriksen, but they slumped their way through the groups stages then had a easy route to the semi's. Its basically the fact the have washed the floor with everything put in front of them in this WC group, with exception of us, as Copenhagen in hindsight was probably a good result (especially with the 2nd half performance) That is why I think last night was more akin to Ukraine and Croatia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: Surely the two France wins and the 2003 netherlands win were the best wins since the 90s. Ukraine were not a proper top tier nation at that time. They were a level below that. Still a great victory though. Not sure where last night ranks but I do remember Italy, France & Ukraine were all ranked in the world's top 10 from that group. Who cares though? I'm just really tired but happy today. 😃 Edited November 16, 2021 by slasher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Did anyone notice that when Ralston came on he played at left back (albeit for just a few minutes) and did ok? We actually now have 3 players - of an almost similar quality - competing in some positions: Patterson Souttar Hanley Cooper Robertson Ralston Hendry Gallagher McKenna SOD McTom Porteous Tierney I deliberately put them in the order of right CB, Central CB and left CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 minute ago, slasher said: Not sure here last night ranks but I do remember Italy, France & Ukraine were all ranked in the world's top 10 from that group. Who cares though? I'm just really tired but happy today. 😃 Really was the worst draw any country has had ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Were both those games dead rubbers or just the second one, no idea were I got that idea from surely not possible for first one to be. The second 1 defo was, it was our last game, can't remember if the other was. That is probably why we don't remember them as fondly as great wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, wanderer said: Would not say Denmark are a top tier nation, a VERY good side, but not in that elite group.... Euro 2020 they were the team everyone wanted to do well after what happened to Eriksen, but they slumped their way through the groups stages then had a easy route to the semi's. Its basically the fact the have washed the floor with everything put in front of them in this WC group, with exception of us, as Copenhagen in hindsight was probably a good result (especially with the 2nd half performance) That is why I think last night was more akin to Ukraine and Croatia. I would class denmark as a top tier nation, fair enough they are not always historically top tier nation but they definitely are right now. Edited November 16, 2021 by mccaughey85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 41 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Were both those games dead rubbers or just the second one, no idea were I got that idea from surely not possible for first one to be. Pretty sure both Croatia wins were dead rubbers. IIRC we were the first team in the world to be knocked out of qualifying for Brazil 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwhitelaw Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 42 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Were both those games dead rubbers or just the second one, no idea were I got that idea from surely not possible for first one to be. I'm pretty certain both games were dead rubbers. I didn't watch the first game as I was at a friends birthday gathering and remember not being bothered about missing it, until I saw the final score lol! Also as someone mentioned earlier, we might have been the first team in the world not able to qualify. The final table ended up looking a bit more respectable for us after those two wins but in reality we were out of it really early on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 12 hours ago, Third Lanark said: He is. I was crapping myself hoping he wouldn't get booked but the ref actually was brilliant. I think the refs may have been told to go easy , Denmark had a couple of fouls on us that on another day would have been bookings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 10 hours ago, TDYER63 said: Crowd were fantastic as were the away support. Great to see so many kids as well, they must have been buzzing. Agreed. The Danes seemed like a great bunch and were happy to party along, they have already qualified I suppose. When our second went in I turned round in the mayhem and there was a wee boy sitting with a face like fizz. He was probably just terrified, it must've been like being next to a rocket launch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, Toepoke said: Agreed. The Danes seemed like a great bunch and were happy to party along, they have already qualified I suppose. When our second went in I turned round in the mayhem and there was a wee boy sitting with a face like fizz. He was probably just terrified, it must've been like being next to a rocket launch! Yes, it was a good atmosphere for everyone. Reminded me of the Hibs/St Mirren game a few seasons ago, final game when Hibs were already promoted to the Premiership and we needed a draw or better to avoid being relegated from the Championship . Everyone was happy at the end 😊 We were sitting at the end of a row in C1 last night , right at the goal line , there was a wee boy in the row in front of us. When Adams scored he just left his dad and went charging down the steps with about 50 big guys. I thought he was going to get crushed in the stampede 😧😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 14 hours ago, Scot1 said: I’d take off Adams soon, he looks like he’s tiring That's what I thought at the time as well. Thank fuk naebody listens to me. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 56 minutes ago, Toepoke said: Agreed. The Danes seemed like a great bunch and were happy to party along, they have already qualified I suppose. When our second went in I turned round in the mayhem and there was a wee boy sitting with a face like fizz. He was probably just terrified, it must've been like being next to a rocket launch! Was in the ivory after the game and a big squad of them in. Great lads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Toepoke said: Pretty sure both Croatia wins were dead rubbers. IIRC we were the first team in the world to be knocked out of qualifying for Brazil 2014. Yes, both Croatia games were after we were out. We were out after losing away to Serbia. We were the first European team to be knocked out. Other teams were out before we even kicked a baw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrisandmoo Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Orraloon said: That's what I thought at the time as well. Thank fuk naebody listens to me. 🤣 I'll third that. As soon as the thought passed my mind, he killed the ball out the air with a superb touch. And I thought...maybe not! What a shift he put in. Forget the goal, the hold up play etc was fantastic. Edited November 16, 2021 by Morrisandmoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 No doubt in my mind, that was the best performance and result since that Mo Johnson double effectively knocked France out of the WC in 1989. Especially the first half. At some points during that first half I thought we were as good as Spain were at their peak. And aye, I have sobered up. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 13 hours ago, Fairbairn said: If someone doesn’t come up with a song for Souttar/Cooper to the tune of Super Trooper I want my money back. We might get Sweden in the final? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 12 hours ago, TDYER63 said: What a fantastic night and what a performance. I actually said out loud ‘ is this Scotland’. Haven’t seen such consistent , fluid , exciting football for a long time. The quality of the opposition made it extra special. We actually made them look mediocre. Crowd were fantastic as were the away support. Great to see so many kids as well, they must have been buzzing. We do have some roasters in our support though. Guy behind me moaning at Che Adams saying he ‘wouldnae get a game in his subbuteo team’. 5 minutes later he has the ball in the net. Ach, if I'd known that was you I'd have said hello. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, Orraloon said: Yes, both Croatia games were after we were out. We were out after losing away to Serbia. We were the first European team to be knocked out. Other teams were out before we even kicked a baw. Ah right not as bad as I thought then. I'll cut Levein some slack 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 11 hours ago, Auchinyell Sox Change said: Yet to see the game as at work ; only caught it on the bbc text update am only speculating it was our best “ measured “ or controlled perfomance against a heavy hitter since ukraine umder mcleish ? both france matches obvs great wins but in the jammy category … Up until last night I think that Ukraine game was the best this century, but I think last night was better. Some of the passing and movement was world class. I never thought I would see a Scotland team with such good ball control, passing and movement off the ball as they gave us last night. I just didn't think enough of our players had the skill level to do it. A lot of them proved me wrong last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, Orraloon said: We might get Sweden in the final? 😂😂 5 minutes ago, Orraloon said: Ach, if I'd known that was you I'd have said hello. 😂😂 Thats 3 times you have made me laugh this week. You should get pissed more often. He must have been about your age right enough 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Orraloon said: Up until last night I think that Ukraine game was the best this century, but I think last night was better. Some of the passing and movement was world class. I never thought I would see a Scotland team with such good ball control, passing and movement off the ball as they gave us last night. I just didn't think enough of our players had the skill level to do it. A lot of them proved me wrong last night. I agree, till now the Ukraine game has been the best in the last 20 years. As others have said we got a bit lucky in the games against France. But last night was phenomenal, I thought my heart was going to burst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borojock Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Im assuming that that win will help us with fifa rankings that could move us up closer to pot 2 for the next qualifying draw for the next euros? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 13 minutes ago, Toepoke said: Ah right not as bad as I thought then. I'll cut Levein some slack 😜 We were still in the WC when Levien got sacked. It was Strachan who got us knocked out. 🤣😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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