Squirrelhumper Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Calle off again for 21s as he's tired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: Calle off again for 21s as he's tired. Should really be in the main squad anyways. Playing every week in serie a at 19 is impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 13 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: Should really be in the main squad anyways. Playing every week in serie a at 19 is impressive. If that’s his attitude he can stay in Italy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThistleWhistle Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 I get that we have a couple of mint left backs just now but Tierney isn't the most robust and Robertson has played a lot of football. It's pretty obvious he doesn't view the u21's as good use of his time and can't really blame him if he's playing week in week out in Serie A. For the rights and wrongs of that attitude it's bloody stupid not to have a look at him in the main squad purely on the sole basis to put a cap on him anyway so he's locked in to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 22 minutes ago, ThistleWhistle said: I get that we have a couple of mint left backs just now but Tierney isn't the most robust and Robertson has played a lot of football. It's pretty obvious he doesn't view the u21's as good use of his time and can't really blame him if he's playing week in week out in Serie A. For the rights and wrongs of that attitude it's bloody stupid not to have a look at him in the main squad purely on the sole basis to put a cap on him anyway so he's locked in to us. Is he eligible for any other countries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theabsentee Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Not sure about eligibility, don't think he is but that's not the reason for his withdrawal. Maybe his club are pressuring him or he just thinks he is above playing for the under 21's, either way he deserved to be in the full squad especially as Tierney's match fitness is questionable. Clarke likes to have 3 left back options apparently for training purposes when Greg Taylor is fit, when he isn't it's not necessary it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThistleWhistle Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: Is he eligible for any other countries? Absolutely no idea but why take the risk? If the SFA knew Souttar could play for Australia it would seem even more absurd not to have kept him in at least the u21's on the chance he might turn out to be decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theabsentee Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, ThistleWhistle said: Absolutely no idea but why take the risk? If the SFA knew Souttar could play for Australia it would seem even more absurd not to have kept him in at least the u21's on the chance he might turn out to be decent. Exactly, never seen the lad play but I'm still fuming. John is a technically gifted player with a big of pace so surely there was a chance his younger brother who is considerably taller would also have had some attributes to go with his height. Pretty good combination in a centre half but the sfa snoozing again, useless c___s 😠 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaint Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 57 minutes ago, aaid said: If that’s his attitude he can stay in Italy. Agree.Shit attitude for someone so young.Think he would be delighted to play all sort of levels of football.Tired...F..k off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 1 hour ago, mccaughey85 said: Should really be in the main squad anyways. Playing every week in serie a at 19 is impressive. This. Under 21 footy is pish and means zero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jailender Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 He is still representing Scotland at U21, so does that mean zero too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThistleWhistle Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 38 minutes ago, theabsentee said: Exactly, never seen the lad play but I'm still fuming. John is a technically gifted player with a big of pace so surely there was a chance his younger brother who is considerably taller would also have had some attributes to go with his height. Pretty good combination in a centre half but the sfa snoozing again, useless c___s 😠 Fleetwood couldn't believe their luck when we loaned him out a second season but to give the SFA some slack he looked a bit ropey in a back four and I was convinced Collins (ROI; year younger; went Burnley for £15m) was the much better prospect. Moving to a back 3 though he's been an absolute monster and Everton have rumoured to make a £20m bid in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, jailender said: He is still representing Scotland at U21, so does that mean zero too? Close to zero, let's be honest who cares about u21 football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 22 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: Close to zero, let's be honest who cares about u21 football. True. Being good at that level means fuck all. His manager will be pressuring him not to play and it’ll be more worth it when a full Call up comes so hopefully one will soon, it should have for this squad in reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 I am not overly fussed in this particular case, maybe because hes playing abroad but if this helps him develope into a top player then i am all for it,, the commitment bit is worry however,, he may well be getting pressure from the manager to stay in Italy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThistleWhistle Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 1 hour ago, ProudScot said: True. Being good at that level means fuck all. His manager will be pressuring him not to play and it’ll be more worth it when a full Call up comes so hopefully one will soon, it should have for this squad in reality. Chuck Covid in and it's completely understandable really. If we'd offered a full call up and it was pussy footing about it would be more concerning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 (edited) 40 minutes ago, hampden_loon2878 said: I am not overly fussed in this particular case, maybe because hes playing abroad but if this helps him develope into a top player then i am all for it,, the commitment bit is worry however,, he may well be getting pressure from the manager to stay in Italy I think this is probably it. He'll be getting pressure from somewhere. I don't know about you lot, but I was not as self-assured when I was 19 as I am now. If someone I respected gave me advice, I'd be more likely to take it back then. And, as others have said, playing in Serie A is far better for his development than the u21s. I seem to recall Maloney had a near-career ending injury because he played for both Scotland and then the U21s straight after. Edited November 9, 2021 by Tartan blood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaint Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 1 hour ago, jailender said: He is still representing Scotland at U21, so does that mean zero too? Exactly.Representing Scotland at any level should be an honour,not a f..king chore.If he is starting that shit at his age,makes you wonder how willing he will be further down the line.It shouldn't be a case of picking and choosing when it suits him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanticscot Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Lets pause for a moment, anyone have a quote from the guy saying he was tired? I haven't seen anything yet, maybe it exists but people are awfully riled up over this, it would be terrible if there wasn't any truth in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaint Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, romanticscot said: Lets pause for a moment, anyone have a quote from the guy saying he was tired? I haven't seen anything yet, maybe it exists but people are awfully riled up over this, it would be terrible if there wasn't any truth in it. Not as terrible as it would be if it was true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted November 9, 2021 Author Share Posted November 9, 2021 4 hours ago, mccaughey85 said: Should really be in the main squad anyways. Playing every week in serie a at 19 is impressive. Wouldnt make a difference if hes too tired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 15 minutes ago, romanticscot said: Lets pause for a moment, anyone have a quote from the guy saying he was tired? I haven't seen anything yet, maybe it exists but people are awfully riled up over this, it would be terrible if there wasn't any truth in it. Been confirmed by Scot Gemmill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanticscot Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Have at it lads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Aaron Hickey can go fuck himself and should never be considered for another squad at any level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 2 hours ago, ProudScot said: True. Being good at that level means fuck all. His manager will be pressuring him not to play and it’ll be more worth it when a full Call up comes so hopefully one will soon, it should have for this squad in reality. You don't know whether his manager is pressuring him. What we do know is he is too tired and wants to prepare for his next serie A match instead of playing for Scotland U21s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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