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2 hours ago, Texas Pete said:

All of our areas are an area of weakness apart from left back and Clarke chooses to play without one of those. 

I think we're fairly strong in midfield too, to be fair.

Clarke would probably prefer to play with a back four but the formation we do play seems to suit our players and allows him to get as many of our better players on the park as possible.

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On the topic of set-pieces, the addition of Austin McPhee to the coaching staff was supposed to introduce innovation, but disappointingly there is zero evidence so far. McTominay taking that free kick yesterday was a total waste, as he consistently blooters over the bar. Against Israel we finally scored from a corner as McGinn got the delivery right. But I prefer Gilmour on corners, flat deliveries with pace similar to Griffiths, plus Gilmour is the smallest man on the team. Turnbull is also a good dead-ball specialist, plus can also score from distance from open play, and I would pick ahead of McTominay any day of the week. 
 

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42 minutes ago, scotlad said:

I think we're fairly strong in midfield too, to be fair.

Clarke would probably prefer to play with a back four but the formation we do play seems to suit our players and allows him to get as many of our better players on the park as possible.

Compared to the top teams I mean. 

Our defence is brilliant compared to Moldova’s for example. 

Our midfield didn’t look very strong last night. 

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7 hours ago, Third Lanark said:

Celtic fans will have seen him score from a similar range and distance. At any rate, McTominay has no form whatsoever with free kicks. In fact, I see precious little evidence that we have worked on free kicks or set pieces per se.

You'd think that would be a big priority for a team that doesn't always find it easy scoring from open play.

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2 minutes ago, Texas Pete said:

Compared to the top teams I mean. 

Our defence is brilliant compared to Moldova’s for example. 

Our midfield didn’t look very strong last night. 

For me we were set up all wrong in hindsight. We were almost playing a 3-4-1-2 andit did not work. McGregor compliments and works far better with Gilmour than McTominay. Fraser as right wing-back is not playing to Fraser's strenths and why bother when Patterson offers more in that role. We looked leggy in midfield too and Dykes was too often isolated upfront. We looked better in the second half when changes were made.

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Does anyone think there could be lessons to be learned from how the Faroes organise their football?

They were arguably pretty competitive at our level or thereabouts, this for a population that would fit within Hampden. 

Or put another way, whatever it is they did, if applied say through the Highlands and Islands, could we generate half a dozen Faroes-quality teams, that could be feeders to our national team?

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9 minutes ago, exile said:

Does anyone think there could be lessons to be learned from how the Faroes organise their football?

They were arguably pretty competitive at our level or thereabouts, this for a population that would fit within Hampden. 

Or put another way, whatever it is they did, if applied say through the Highlands and Islands, could we generate half a dozen Faroes-quality teams, that could be feeders to our national team?

Not really. We are traditionally pretty good at playing on the counter attack and frustrating teams that are better than us. I’m not sure the Faroes could teach us anything new about something we’ve been doing for years.

We pretty much did to France, Netherlands, Germany etc. what the Faroes tried to do to us last night. They didn’t get anything out of the game though even though we were well below our best. 

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2 minutes ago, Texas Pete said:

Not really. We are traditionally pretty good at playing on the counter attack and frustrating teams that are better than us. I’m not sure the Faroes could teach us anything new about something we’ve been doing for years.

We pretty much did to France, Netherlands, Germany etc. what the Faroes tried to do to us last night. They didn’t get anything out of the game though even though we were well below our best. 

I meant more widely about how their football is set up more generally - at community level? - pitches? etc.

Could a comparable area of Scotland produce such a good local team (even if it's not at 'Scotland level')?

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6 minutes ago, exile said:

I meant more widely about how their football is set up more generally - at community level? - pitches? etc.

Could a comparable area of Scotland produce such a good local team (even if it's not at 'Scotland level')?

I could probably gather together 11 guys from Paisley that would give them a good game. 

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3 hours ago, exile said:

I meant more widely about how their football is set up more generally - at community level? - pitches? etc.

Could a comparable area of Scotland produce such a good local team (even if it's not at 'Scotland level')?

Its a fair point. 

The Faroes have invested heavily in their football with all weather pitches in every town and other indoor facilities.

Similar to what Iceland did, they have had similar results.

If we were to invest a similar amount of money on a per capita basis with the focus of getting as many kids playing football as possible, regardless of their ability to pay, then we might grow a bigger pool of talent for the academy programmes to farm from.

I think we have got better at this kind of thing in recent years, but we could be doing so much more.

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16 minutes ago, ger intae them said:

ah, the gallus buddy.

I am 100% sure you couldn’t. If you could, then our top team would win stuff.

I wasn’t talking about my mates. I meant professional footballers that were born in Paisley or have parents/grandparents from there.

I bet there’s quite a few in the SPFL and even further afield. 

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My thoughts,

Frazer was a flop at rwb. Should have been pulled at half time.

This ment we went left or central and thus became too predictable and couldn't break down the compact well drilled faroes. .. who may i add are no whipping boys any more. We needed the 3 points and got them! 3 more boys 😉😉

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7 hours ago, Judith said:

Its a fair point. 

The Faroes have invested heavily in their football with all weather pitches in every town and other indoor facilities.

Similar to what Iceland did, they have had similar results.

If we were to invest a similar amount of money on a per capita basis with the focus of getting as many kids playing football as possible, regardless of their ability to pay, then we might grow a bigger pool of talent for the academy programmes to farm from.

I think we have got better at this kind of thing in recent years, but we could be doing so much more.

And the investment would be great for the nations health and wellbeing 

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8 hours ago, ST6's-t-army said:

My thoughts,

Frazer was a flop at rwb. Should have been pulled at half time.

This ment we went left or central and thus became too predictable and couldn't break down the compact well drilled faroes. .. who may i add are no whipping boys any more. We needed the 3 points and got them! 3 more boys 😉😉

Fraser was quite poor but he did whip in a few decent crosses. With Dykes suspended for the moldova game maybe fraser and Adams could be played upfront together. 

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Here's a thought. Is it possible that we played better in the second half once McTominay replaced Hendry not just because McGregor was better beside Gilmour but that McTominay despite his defensive weakness's offered more going forward than Hendry had.

Honestly thought at the time that Hendry had a bit of a nothing game. You don't make mistakes if you contribute zilch.

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18 hours ago, Texas Pete said:

Compared to the top teams I mean. 

Our defence is brilliant compared to Moldova’s for example. 

Our midfield didn’t look very strong last night. 

Well, compared to the top teams it possibly isn't.

However, our aspirations - at this stage anyway - aren't to be a 'top team', i.e. a team with serious ambitions of winning tournaments, but simply a team that's capable of qualifying for tournaments.  

Maybe it's my age but I use the squads we had in the 1990s - back when we used to qualify regularly for tournaments - as a barometer of where we are.  I reckon if our defence and attack were as good as our midfield we'd be qualifying for things regularly.

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On 10/13/2021 at 11:36 PM, Judith said:

Its a fair point. 

The Faroes have invested heavily in their football with all weather pitches in every town and other indoor facilities.

Similar to what Iceland did, they have had similar results.

If we were to invest a similar amount of money on a per capita basis with the focus of getting as many kids playing football as possible, regardless of their ability to pay, then we might grow a bigger pool of talent for the academy programmes to farm from.

I think we have got better at this kind of thing in recent years, but we could be doing so much more.

On 10/14/2021 at 1:10 AM, AlfieMoon said:

I’m sure I heard in lead up to game about the Faroes investment in the game and pitches in every community. 
 

They have approx. 10% of their population as registered football players. That’s huge engagement.  

 

Thanks, that's interesting, that's what I was getting at. If Iceland and Faroes can do it...

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On 10/14/2021 at 1:10 AM, AlfieMoon said:

I’m sure I heard in lead up to game about the Faroes investment in the game and pitches in every community. 
 

They have approx. 10% of their population as registered football players. That’s huge engagement.  

Completely different countries and societies to Scotland though.

10% of our population are jakey bastards 

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47 minutes ago, ProudScot said:

Completely different countries and societies to Scotland though.

10% of our population are jakey bastards 

I was not comparing to Scotland as a whole, I was talking about the parts of Scotland like parts of the Highlands & Islands that are most like Faroes. Despite being relatively isolated populations and without big cities or professional football leagues, they manage to do something that enables them to field a respectably competitive national football team.

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37 minutes ago, exile said:

I was not comparing to Scotland as a whole, I was talking about the parts of Scotland like parts of the Highlands & Islands that are most like Faroes. Despite being relatively isolated populations and without big cities or professional football leagues, they manage to do something that enables them to field a respectably competitive national football team.

They’ve got a 3G pitch in every village due to having a lot of money. Totally different to even the Highlands and Islands 

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