Big Ramy 1314 Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 47 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: And just to add I read an article (yesterday I think it was) with Chelsea fans lamenting the fact they let him go. Is Billy no on loan to Norwich? Silly question, but I will ask anyway. Can a team, say Chelsea, demand Billy back because he is only in a loan?, or would they have to wait to the transfer window...Cheers.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 27 minutes ago, Big Ramy 1314 said: Is Billy no on loan to Norwich? Silly question, but I will ask anyway. Can a team, say Chelsea, demand Billy back because he is only in a loan?, or would they have to wait to the transfer window...Cheers.. As I understand it they can end the loan deal whenever they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ramy 1314 Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 Just now, Caledonian Craig said: As I understand it they can end the loan deal whenever they want. Interesting, always wondered that... Cheers Craig for that..👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Caledonian Craig said: As I understand it they can end the loan deal whenever they want. Celtic did it last year with Scott Robertson when they had that Dubai Covid crisis. I don't know if that was just because it was extenuating circumstances, but it shows it's at least possible. Also, I'm fairly sure I read that Billy's wee brother had already signed for Chelsea. I could be wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prideothenorth Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Nice to think that we still have Ryan Jack coming back at some point, good competition for midfield places within the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judith Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 9 hours ago, Orraloon said: Oh that song? I was just about say "But Gilmour doesn't have curly hair". 😆😆😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzohiggy Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Always has been an exceptional talent from a very young age. It’s not just the obvious technical ability that sets him apart but his heart and insatiable attitude to improve. He isn’t like most players mentally, he genuinely believes he’ll be one of the best players in the world and he won’t fail for lack of effort. im not worried about the current Norwich blip although I didn’t like the move in the first place as he’s too good for them. It is surprising they have left him out last few games although there has been an injury but I think he’s played pretty well in the games I’ve seen him and think he’ll be back in before long. Cream always rises and all that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, gonzohiggy said: im not worried about the current Norwich blip although I didn’t like the move in the first place as he’s too good for them. It is surprising they have left him out last few games although there has been an injury but I think he’s played pretty well in the games I’ve seen him and think he’ll be back in before long. Cream always rises and all that Exactly. And the internationals is a great shop window too. There will be many foreign coaches watching Gilmour and licking their lips and the same applies to other young players in our team such as Patterson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggis_trap Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/11/2021 at 2:36 AM, ceudmilefailte said: I think there's more to it than that, he can spot the forward pass, if that's not available he can spot the player who can make the forward pass, if that's not available he can carry the ball forward only after these options have been checked does i become a case of just keeping possession. The ability to do all that in split seconds when you are on your game is something that can't be taught. So far he does look like he could end up some player. For sure... My post wasn't being critical of Gilmour. Just an observation that he does the simple stuff *very* well. If he makes himself available for the easy pass then team mates have options. Suddenly we have a chance of holding onto the ball. Opposition get tired and the gaps start to appear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger intae them Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 After dropping him again, farke apparently saying he’s not in the business of developing other clubs players. I don’t think that’s true, I think he’s trying to deflect allegations that he’s helping out tuchel without thinking about Norwich. gilmour will take time to adjust to Norwich’s level v.s Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2021/10/15/norwich-boss-daniel-farke-hails-baller-gilmour-and-explains-chelsea-loanees-recent-absence-15429439/amp/ I think he’s spot on here. He was also right to rest him yesterday after two massive games where he ran himself into the ground. We need to a be a wee bit careful with Gilmour. He’s still filling out and shouldn’t be playing every game in a league as 100 miles an hour as the EPL. He can do that when he’s 23. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2021/10/15/norwich-boss-daniel-farke-hails-baller-gilmour-and-explains-chelsea-loanees-recent-absence-15429439/amp/ I think he’s spot on here. He was also right to rest him yesterday after two massive games where he ran himself into the ground. We need to a be a wee bit careful with Gilmour. He’s still filling out and shouldn’t be playing every game in a league as 100 miles an hour as the EPL. He can do that when he’s 23. Pish. 17-18 year olds play every week in the EPL. Gilmour is 20 and hasn’t played enough club football as it is to date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, ProudScot said: Pish. 17-18 year olds play every week in the EPL. Gilmour is 20 and hasn’t played enough club football as it is to date. The last sentence is the problem. His body needs to get used to the demands of consecutive games. Neal Cooper, Eric Black come to mind, and almost Tierney. He also has a slight frame and it will take time to develop. Not many 17 year olds or indeed 20 year olds with his frame play in the EPL every week. He’ll absolutely get there but chronic injury is a danger if he is over exposed before he has fully filled out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 23 minutes ago, ProudScot said: Pish. 17-18 year olds play every week in the EPL. Gilmour is 20 and hasn’t played enough club football as it is to date. What 17 and 18 year olds play every week in the EPL? I've not checked, but I doubt there are many 20 year olds that play literally every week either. Even the ones that are regulars will be rotated. I don't think we should panic with Gilmour. I'm not defending his manager, but he is right to not play him in every game. I would be concerned if he didn't play again until Moldova though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 More paper talk of Gilmour to Rangers. Whilst I would prefer him playing for Chelsea, a move to rangers would at least likely have him playing first team football, possibly in Europe. Be a big asset to Rangers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 17 minutes ago, Malcolm said: More paper talk of Gilmour to Rangers. Whilst I would prefer him playing for Chelsea, a move to rangers would at least likely have him playing first team football, possibly in Europe. Be a big asset to Rangers. Be better if he goes to another EPL team really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 12:13 PM, Tartan blood said: What 17 and 18 year olds play every week in the EPL? I've not checked, but I doubt there are many 20 year olds that play literally every week either. Even the ones that are regulars will be rotated. I don't think we should panic with Gilmour. I'm not defending his manager, but he is right to not play him in every game. I would be concerned if he didn't play again until Moldova though. Are you concerned now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 hour ago, ProudScot said: Are you concerned now? Yes. Though I reckon their manager will be sacked soon. Rangers may not be better, with Gerrard's reluctance to play youth. But surely even he'd play Gilmour. Surely... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blantyre_Braveheart Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 4 hours ago, Tartan blood said: Yes. Though I reckon their manager will be sacked soon. Rangers may not be better, with Gerrard's reluctance to play youth. But surely even he'd play Gilmour. Surely... You'd hope so. If Ofobreh recovers we will have about 9 CMs already. Realistically if Rangers get him on loan, he would be our best CM by a distance. Davis is the only comparable player in terms of passing, vision and control but he doesn't have the legs to play as much this season. Tbh I'd rather he went abroad in January than come back on loan to Rangers. We have a ton of CMs and Gilmour has already surpassed the SPL and it wouldn't aid his development greatly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breeks_mctavish Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 Norwich just sacked their boss. Thank Farke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jailender Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 2 hours ago, breeks_mctavish said: Norwich just sacked their boss. Thank Farke And your point is ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 10 minutes ago, jailender said: And your point is ?? Obvious I would have thought; another manager will likely play Billy. Maybe Farke never wanted him to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breeks_mctavish Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 39 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: Obvious I would have thought; another manager will likely play Billy. Maybe Farke never wanted him to begin with. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 39 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: Obvious I would have thought; another manager will likely play Billy. Maybe Farke never wanted him to begin with. No guarantees, but a new manager means they won't have favourites, or feel loyal to certain individuals. That is the only logical reason I can see why he didn't play Gilmour. So the new guy should choose the best lineup objectively. And I think we all know Gilmour is objectively the best centre mid they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVIDB46 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 Danny Murphy on match of the day says he was not playing because of Matthias normann. A lot depends who comes in next if it’s a traditional relegation manager who wants battlers , characters etc. comes in he won’t see any game time. If he could not gametime under farke who certainly was not the above it still may be hard for him. He has potential to be an excellent player but he is far from the finished article we have him as. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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