ceudmilefailte Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: Tino livramento scored today. Hard to see him getting in the England squad unless he turns into an unbelievable right back. Eligible for Portugal as well, won't be long until they start to declare an interest if he keeps starting games in the EPL. Started 9 EPL games and only 18, add him to the ever growing list of right backs that are better than Stephen O'Donnell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFH64 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 On 10/22/2021 at 2:26 PM, ProudScot said: Bang on. Between McGregor, Patterson & Jack when he’s back Rangers will probably field as many or possibly even more Scottish players than some of the mid table-relegation fodder sides like Aberdeen, Livingston & Ross County this season. How funny are you, I nearly cracked a rib laughing then I realised you were probably being serious, but I’ll give you a few 🤣🤣🤣 anyway 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blantyre_Braveheart Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 hour ago, ceudmilefailte said: Assist for Anthony Ralston today Ralston must be doing something right,the Croation internationalist brought in to replace him at right back has been relegated to the left hand berth. Funny he never gets a mention on here. If Taylor was fit Ralston would probably be on the bench. The other LB options are Bolingoli who can't defend and Montgomery who is inexperienced and a natural winger. In saying that Ralston is doing well and should be in consideration. I think the only reason he isn't, is that Clarke likes to keep a solid core squad. For me Ralston should definitely be ahead of McGinn at Hibs as our 3rd choice RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 33 minutes ago, Blantyre_Braveheart said: If Taylor was fit Ralston would probably be on the bench. The other LB options are Bolingoli who can't defend and Montgomery who is inexperienced and a natural winger. In saying that Ralston is doing well and should be in consideration. I think the only reason he isn't, is that Clarke likes to keep a solid core squad. For me Ralston should definitely be ahead of McGinn at Hibs as our 3rd choice RB. I think Ralston is considerably better than O’Donnell. At present Patterson, Ramsey & Ralston are all better RB options IMO. The goal O’Donnell was culpable for today was very reminiscent of the Ivan Perisic moment in the Euros… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Russell's Lovechild Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Henderson seems to be getting more game time (and doing well) in Italy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 26 minutes ago, Bobby Russell's Lovechild said: Henderson seems to be getting more game time (and doing well) in Italy What type of midfielder is he? (defensive, attacking?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 43 minutes ago, Bobby Russell's Lovechild said: Henderson seems to be getting more game time (and doing well) in Italy How long can you ignore players who are getting regular starts in Serie A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, ProudScot said: How long can you ignore players who are getting regular starts in Serie A Only if he is better than the likes of Gilmour and McGregor and McTom can we consider him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 24 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: Only if he is better than the likes of Gilmour and McGregor and McTom can we consider him. He must’ve improved over the years there to get to the level hes at. Why would he need to be better than the best player we’ve had in 30 years for us to consider him 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 1 hour ago, ProudScot said: He must’ve improved over the years there to get to the level hes at. Why would he need to be better than the best player we’ve had in 30 years for us to consider him 🤣 I know little about Henderson, hence why I asked the question. Gilmour is a shoe-in but does he complement him is what I meant. Is he better than McG or McTom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of Yermaw Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 15 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: I know little about Henderson, hence why I asked the question. Gilmour is a shoe-in but does he complement him is what I meant. Is he better than McG or McTom? he doesn't need to be seen as an immediate or an automatic starter to merit a call up. Players in the top leagues playing at the top of their game should be rewarded with a call up into what is, quite a big squad. This offers incentive and also shows the management team are sighted on all eligible players wherever they play and not just those here or over the border (with a possible Scottish granny). Henderson's form in Serie A (from what I have read) puts him well above the likes of McLean and Fleck etc for squad inclusion. I would argue the same goes for Russell and Gauld in the MLS. He is a central midfielder, right footed, and mainly attacking but has played a few times in a holding role. He has been Italy now for 3 years and worthy of an inclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, Return of Yermaw said: he doesn't need to be seen as an immediate or an automatic starter to merit a call up. Players in the top leagues playing at the top of their game should be rewarded with a call up into what is, quite a big squad. This offers incentive and also shows the management team are sighted on all eligible players wherever they play and not just those here or over the border (with a possible Scottish granny). Henderson's form in Serie A (from what I have read) puts him well above the likes of McLean and Fleck etc for squad inclusion. I would argue the same goes for Russell and Gauld in the MLS. He is a central midfielder, right footed, and mainly attacking but has played a few times in a holding role. He has been Italy now for 3 years and worthy of an inclusion. I'd agree with much of that. It is quite surprising that, here in the Scottish media, we hear no talking up of Henderson but a cacophany of articles trumping up call-ups for players who we have no evidence want to represent us. I would hope that Clarke has at least had Henderson watched at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 49 minutes ago, Return of Yermaw said: he doesn't need to be seen as an immediate or an automatic starter to merit a call up. Players in the top leagues playing at the top of their game should be rewarded with a call up into what is, quite a big squad. This offers incentive and also shows the management team are sighted on all eligible players wherever they play and not just those here or over the border (with a possible Scottish granny). Henderson's form in Serie A (from what I have read) puts him well above the likes of McLean and Fleck etc for squad inclusion. I would argue the same goes for Russell and Gauld in the MLS. He is a central midfielder, right footed, and mainly attacking but has played a few times in a holding role. He has been Italy now for 3 years and worthy of an inclusion. Henderson is 25 and played 8 games in Serie A. If who scored is to believed is a pretty much an average player for a mid table team. I haven't seen any reports to suggest otherwise. Playing in Serie A does not make him a good player. Hickey is 19 and has already played 19 games and should be very close to the Scotland squad on the other hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Return of Yermaw said: he doesn't need to be seen as an immediate or an automatic starter to merit a call up. Players in the top leagues playing at the top of their game should be rewarded with a call up into what is, quite a big squad. This offers incentive and also shows the management team are sighted on all eligible players wherever they play and not just those here or over the border (with a possible Scottish granny). Henderson's form in Serie A (from what I have read) puts him well above the likes of McLean and Fleck etc for squad inclusion. I would argue the same goes for Russell and Gauld in the MLS. He is a central midfielder, right footed, and mainly attacking but has played a few times in a holding role. He has been Italy now for 3 years and worthy of an inclusion. Thank you. That's what I was asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Russell's Lovechild Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, ceudmilefailte said: Henderson is 25 and played 8 games in Serie A. If who scored is to believed is a pretty much an average player for a mid table team. I haven't seen any reports to suggest otherwise. Playing in Serie A does not make him a good player. Hickey is 19 and has already played 19 games and should be very close to the Scotland squad on the other hand. But is the likes of McLean any better? Edited October 24, 2021 by Bobby Russell's Lovechild Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 25 minutes ago, Bobby Russell's Lovechild said: But is the likes of McLean any better? Is McLean likely to be in many future squads, and even if he is he has considerable international experience. Henderson can't really be on the radar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Enjoyable first half for Andy Robertson. Not so for Scott McTominay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, Toepoke said: Enjoyable first half for Andy Robertson. Not so for Scott McTominay! He will be getting hounded on the man u forums tonight. Being honest not sure he is good enough for them. Hes only has a great game every so often and man utd have the money to buy pretty much most midfielders in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcguffin Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 45 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: He will be getting hounded on the man u forums tonight. Being honest not sure he is good enough for them. Hes only has a great game every so often and man utd have the money to buy pretty much most midfielders in the world. You're right. But McTom. wasn't the worst Man Utd. player by a a long chalk (one of the few to keep going to the bitter end?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 1 hour ago, mccaughey85 said: He will be getting hounded on the man u forums tonight. Being honest not sure he is good enough for them. Hes only has a great game every so often and man utd have the money to buy pretty much most midfielders in the world. 100% this. The majority of Manc 'supporters' will be holding Mctominay solely responsible for the whole debacle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borojock Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 McTom hasn't been good for us for a while in my opinion and I don't think for Man Utd as well My problem with him is I don't know what he is, he's not a defensive midfielder, he's not a creative midfielder, he's not an attacking midfielder and he's not a right in a back 3 For me doesn't get in our starting 11 - McGregor and Gilmour all day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 17 minutes ago, borojock said: McTom hasn't been good for us for a while in my opinion and I don't think for Man Utd as well My problem with him is I don't know what he is, he's not a defensive midfielder, he's not a creative midfielder, he's not an attacking midfielder and he's not a right in a back 3 For me doesn't get in our starting 11 - McGregor and Gilmour all day His passing in the Faroes game was arguably the worst I've seen from a Scotland player, especially first half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Shankland scored his first goal for Beerschot at the weekend vs Anderlecht. Did Hickey start vs AC Milan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 14 hours ago, todd said: His passing in the Faroes game was arguably the worst I've seen from a Scotland player, especially first half. It must say something though that he keeps getting games ahead of Pogba, but yes, he has not developed as the box-to-box midfielder I'd hoped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 1 hour ago, ProudScot said: Did Hickey start vs AC Milan? Yes. Subbed after an hour when Bologna had pulled it back to 2-2. They went on to lose 4-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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