scotlad Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 3 hours ago, mccaughey85 said: Kyle Josephs 2 goals from last night, first 1 is beautifully taken first time and the second is a nice bit of skill before smashing a great shot into the net. This lad has only just turned 20 and looks like a strong athletic guy already. A season in league 1 scoring goals will do him good then next season he can play championship football. The second one is a lovely finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Our future hero scores after only 52 seconds for West brom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkm_vancouver Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 37 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: Our future hero scores after only 52 seconds for West brom. 😀 Must be all the talk of a possible call-up that is giving him a boost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broraboy Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 minute ago, gkm_vancouver said: 😀 Must be all the talk of a possible call-up that is giving him a boost He may well get a call up eventually/maybe but it won’t be this year! S.Clarke won’t be calling him up for November fixtures that’s for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 4 hours ago, broraboy said: With the USA lifting Travel Restrictions for those double jabbed, I’m hoping Ryan Gauld gets a call up for November’s Double Header ! The date of lifting the restriction is perfect timing to allow Steve Clarke to make that decision and get him involved with the Squad. I don't there's been any travel restrictions for elite sportsmen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 28 minutes ago, Toepoke said: I don't there's been any travel restrictions for elite sportsmen? Quarantine though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Caledonian Craig Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 20 hours ago, mccaughey85 said: Our future hero scores after only 52 seconds for West brom. Scottish players in action? He is not Scottish going by his international allegiance here. What next? Do we start discussing Harry Kane here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broraboy Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Bobby Russell's Lovechild said: He certainly seems to be making an impression !! Of all the names being touted, you’d imagine this guy is deserving of a call up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86glebestreet Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, broraboy said: He certainly seems to be making an impression !! Of all the names being touted, you’d imagine this guy is deserving of a call up. He seems to be doing well, but one of the reports said it was his worst game so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Rangers representing 'Scotland' in Europe again I see 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syecosse Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) Craig twins both midfielders made the bench for Spurs again. And Ashby again on the bench for West ham. Edited October 21, 2021 by syecosse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broraboy Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 48 minutes ago, todd said: Rangers representing 'Scotland' in Europe again I see 🙄 But not a current Scotland player in the starting XI Patterson on the bench again, hopefully he gets some game time between now and Moldova 🤞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broraboy Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 44 minutes ago, syecosse said: Craig twins both midfielders made the bench for Spurs again. And Ashby again on the bench for West ham. I see they have represented Scotland at youth level but not made the step up to the U-21’s Not heard much about them or what the potential is ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blantyre_Braveheart Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 hour ago, broraboy said: I see they have represented Scotland at youth level but not made the step up to the U-21’s Not heard much about them or what the potential is ?? They are 18, still u19 players. In saying that I have no idea about their ability or potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syecosse Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 hour ago, broraboy said: I see they have represented Scotland at youth level but not made the step up to the U-21’s Not heard much about them or what the potential is ?? Seem to be rated very highly rated, wonderkids mentioned in one paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 6 hours ago, Caledonian Craig said: Scottish players in action? He is not Scottish going by his international allegiance here. What next? Do we start discussing Harry Kane here? It was just a joke tbf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraveheartGordon Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 On 10/20/2021 at 6:31 AM, Blantyre_Braveheart said: There's also Urain at Bilbao, Rudden at Thistle and Bowie at Fulham. Nah instead let's play a 5'9 winger as a lone striker and punt the ball long to him all game... That'll definitely work. Honestly when are the u21s finally going to be put out of their misery? Despite some big results that look good on paper, their is a reason no club has touched Gemmell. He is a honking coach that is a throw back to the 80s. Problem is we'd just end up with someone like him again because the SFA are clueless when it comes to our youth game. I really like Pedro Martinez Losa the woman’s team coach, his track record is outstanding, he develops a possession based, technical style of football and absolutely loves Scotland. Wonder if giving him the 21’s job could be an option at some stage with the positive fit him being the possibility of him being a contender for the senior men’s post one day. Genuinely couldn’t do worse than Gemmill imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraveheartGordon Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, todd said: Rangers representing 'Scotland' in Europe again I see 🙄 Hear this guff all the time. The fact of the matter is Rangers and Celtic can no longer afford the best young Scottish players from Hibs/Hearts/Aberdeen etc because they can command higher fees from English clubs like McKenna etc. This means if you don’t come through the youth system like McGregor/Patterson/Tierney etc then the only home grown players available are ones that are probably earlier in the process than they’d like. The fees are obviously good news for the other clubs and in some cases mean they keep players for longer. To put it into perspective though Rangers were quoted a far lower fee for a Swedish international, Serie-A regular defender in Helander than they were for an at the time constantly injured John Souttar who had never played above Scottish Premiership. Easy to see why they have so few Scottish players now. Edited October 21, 2021 by BraveheartGordon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theabsentee Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 4 hours ago, syecosse said: Craig twins both midfielders made the bench for Spurs again. And Ashby again on the bench for West ham. Yeh its good to see. I also noticed Slicker also made the bench for City last weekend. They must rate him quite highly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theabsentee Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 16 minutes ago, BraveheartGordon said: Hear this guff all the time. The fact of the matter is Rangers and Celtic can no longer afford the best young Scottish players from Hibs/Hearts/Aberdeen etc because they can command higher fees from English clubs like McKenna etc. This means if you don’t come through the youth system like McGregor/Patterson/Tierney etc then the only home grown players available are ones that are probably earlier in the process than they’d like. The fees are obviously good news for the other clubs and in some cases mean they keep players for longer. To put it into perspective though Rangers were quoted a far lower fee for a Swedish international, Serie-A regular defender in Helander than they were for an at the time constantly injured John Souttar who had never played above Scottish Premiership. Easy to see why they have so few Scottish players now. I'm not having a go as i would support all Scottish clubs in europe whether they field Scots or not though i don't agree that they can't afford young Scottish talent. Helander cost Rangers 3.5m, i can't believe Hearts would have turned down anywhere near that for Souttar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 hour ago, BraveheartGordon said: Hear this guff all the time. The fact of the matter is Rangers and Celtic can no longer afford the best young Scottish players from Hibs/Hearts/Aberdeen etc because they can command higher fees from English clubs like McKenna etc. This means if you don’t come through the youth system like McGregor/Patterson/Tierney etc then the only home grown players available are ones that are probably earlier in the process than they’d like. The fees are obviously good news for the other clubs and in some cases mean they keep players for longer. To put it into perspective though Rangers were quoted a far lower fee for a Swedish international, Serie-A regular defender in Helander than they were for an at the time constantly injured John Souttar who had never played above Scottish Premiership. Easy to see why they have so few Scottish players now. Remove the words "and Celtic" from your post and you'll come close to having a point. But you'll still be wrong. Your long list of 1 (McKenna) doesn't exactly support your argument either. Celtic have bought one of the highest rated Scots in the last few years - Turnbull. Going only a few years back, Celtic were stacked with SPFL talent e.g Armstrong, GMS, Griffiths, Hendry, Christie etc etc. They were more than capable of signing the likes of McKenna and McGinn. They made the mistake of deciding not to. Rangers, up until now, are also more than capable of signing Scottish talent. They choose not to! In fact, they are almost certainly being outpriced right now because they wasted so much money on foreign players. There is no way I'm buying that Helander cost Rangers less in transfer fees and wages than 95% of the Scottish SPFL players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of Yermaw Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 6 hours ago, BraveheartGordon said: Hear this guff all the time. The fact of the matter is Rangers and Celtic can no longer afford the best young Scottish players from Hibs/Hearts/Aberdeen etc because they can command higher fees from English clubs like McKenna etc. This means if you don’t come through the youth system like McGregor/Patterson/Tierney etc then the only home grown players available are ones that are probably earlier in the process than they’d like. The fees are obviously good news for the other clubs and in some cases mean they keep players for longer. To put it into perspective though Rangers were quoted a far lower fee for a Swedish international, Serie-A regular defender in Helander than they were for an at the time constantly injured John Souttar who had never played above Scottish Premiership. Easy to see why they have so few Scottish players now. Ryan Kent, Hagi, and Roofe were bought in the last couple of seasons for around £15m. Celtic in pre-season alone spent £12m on three players. Based on those transfer fees and accompanying salaries, you are trying to suggest that the Old Grim couldn't afford nor entice a Doig, Ramsay or at the time Hickey or McGinn? McKenna went for about £3m. And as TB points out above, how does Turnbull sit with such an assessment? an anomaly 😆 Your statement is the furthest thing from the "fact of the matter" as something possibly could be. As an aside, I would much prefer to see the likes of Doig or Ramsay broaden their horizons and look a little beyond Glasgow or the English Championship for their next step-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 6 hours ago, Tartan blood said: Remove the words "and Celtic" from your post and you'll come close to having a point. But you'll still be wrong. Your long list of 1 (McKenna) doesn't exactly support your argument either. Celtic have bought one of the highest rated Scots in the last few years - Turnbull. Going only a few years back, Celtic were stacked with SPFL talent e.g Armstrong, GMS, Griffiths, Hendry, Christie etc etc. They were more than capable of signing the likes of McKenna and McGinn. They made the mistake of deciding not to. Rangers, up until now, are also more than capable of signing Scottish talent. They choose not to! In fact, they are almost certainly being outpriced right now because they wasted so much money on foreign players. There is no way I'm buying that Helander cost Rangers less in transfer fees and wages than 95% of the Scottish SPFL players. Celtic have a lot more money to spend than Rangers. Rangers obviously think they can get better value for money from players outwith the SPFL, especially out of contract players and by exploiting the cross border rule. It is highly unlikely they have an inherent problem with Scottish players and indeed they need a minimum quota for the Europa league. Usually people moan that they snap up the best talent in the league and put them on the bench. Now they are criticised for not signing them. They’ve done us a turn with Gilmour and Patterson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 hour ago, er yir macaroon said: Celtic have a lot more money to spend than Rangers. Rangers obviously think they can get better value for money from players outwith the SPFL, especially out of contract players and by exploiting the cross border rule. It is highly unlikely they have an inherent problem with Scottish players and indeed they need a minimum quota for the Europa league. Usually people moan that they snap up the best talent in the league and put them on the bench. Now they are criticised for not signing them. They’ve done us a turn with Gilmour and Patterson. Oh come on. When did Rangers last "snap up all the best talent in the league"? 12 years ago? Scott Wright is the only talent Rangers have bought lately and (so far) wasted . Even if the argument that Rangers can't afford the best SPFL talent was true, they are still able to develop and play youth. Patterson is one of the best young talents to come out of their academy in a decade and he barely plays and, if rumours are to be believed, might be sold. Gilmour, who spent 4 years at the performance schools and then left 30 seconds after turning 16. Thanks, Rangers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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