Taylor1996 Posted June 15, 2021 Author Share Posted June 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, exile said: I'm sure we'd all love for him to start, and rise to the occasion. We may even need it. I'm just a little cautious! Yeah, I gotcha. I honestly cannot wait for him to be thrown in at the deep end. Of all the youngsters (Turnbull, Patterson and Gilmour) Gilmour is the only one I feel is ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Gordon Patterson Hanley Cooper Tierney Robertson Mctominay Gilmour Mcginn Fraser Adams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Clarke will most likely disappoint again, McGregor and Tierney returning will be the only changes most likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 I would go for: Marshall O'Donnell McTominay Hanley Tierney Robertson Gilmour McGregor McGinn Dykes Adams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Taylor1996 said: It's a good point. In terms or press-resistance (dealing with playing pressing him) he's miles ahead of players like Fleck, Armstrong or McGregor and even McTominay. And that's not even mentioning his passing ability and technical ability. I think he's good enough and mature enough to deal with the whole country piling pressure on him. When you have Roy Keane saying that he looks like a world class player, it says a lot. You think he is good enough and mature enough yet our manager doesn't think he is worth a decent run out in a couple of friendlies. Says it all really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted June 15, 2021 Author Share Posted June 15, 2021 49 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: You think he is good enough and mature enough yet our manager doesn't think he is worth a decent run out in a couple of friendlies. Says it all really. I'm still surprised by he didn't start the Luxembourg match. Hopefully he goes out on loan for the whole of next season. I don't think it matters which country he goes to, he'd stroll any league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLT NY Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 I'm not sure why so many think we'll be spending the game pegged back by England. I think if we play the right players we may be able to control more of the possession than would normally be the case. I remember the last time we went down to Wembley and we were played off the park in our pink tops without even laying a punch on them. Even in the 2-2 we didn't really look like scoring until Griffiths stepped up in the last minute or two. I think in both games the English players looked at our team sheet, saw a bunch of Celtic players they did know much about and assumed they would control the game. If they play the same midfield, they potentially have Rice, Mount and Phillips looking at McTominay, McGinn and Gilmour. If that's the case, they'll be expecting a game there without a doubt. That relative lack of assuredness might allow us to play Forrest or Fraser at right back and really take the game to them. I'd rather that than we sit back, let them have the ball and see if they can get past us. Our strikers aren't great, but neither are their centre halfs. Where we really struggle on matching up to them is at right back. If O'Donnell starts, whoever is on their left will be screaming for the ball. They'll probably be as respectful of his level as this board has been over the last day or two. Paterson is a risk as he's so untested, but there's loads of teams playing teenagers (including England) so we maybe shouldn't be so cautious. All the same, if it was me, I'd play Forrest or Fraser on the right and really have a go at them in this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVIDB46 Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) We cannot have dykes playing as it will be more of the same launching long balls and bypassing the midfield Edited June 15, 2021 by DAVIDB46 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkm_vancouver Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 12 hours ago, Hertsscot said: I think I'd drop the three at the back for this one and assuming all are fit, go with: Marshall Tierney. Hanley. Cooper Robertson Fraser McTominay Gilmour McGinn Adams. Dykes Someone gets it😏 It's the only way we'll win. Backs to the wall if we get a lucky break and an early goal ain't gonna happen. Feck it I'm going to start another thread, it's that important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Bemused by the number of people who want Armstrong dropped. I thought he was our best midfielder by far on Monday. Id go with the team I wanted to play on Monday: Gordon Hendry Hanley Tierney Forrest. Robertson Mctominay McGregor Armstrong McGinn Adams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of Yermaw Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 26 minutes ago, Parklife said: Bemused by the number of people who want Armstrong dropped. I thought he was our best midfielder by far on Monday. Id go with the team I wanted to play on Monday: Gordon Hendry Hanley Tierney Forrest. Robertson Mctominay McGregor Armstrong McGinn Adams I would be very happy with that. Also thought Armstrong played well against the Czechs and was bemused he kept getting lumped in with Christie when folks were seeking to berate poor performances or anonymous players. re the line-up, I would prefer Gallagher over Hanley but not exactly a significant change or difference. I do wonder though whether we miss McTominay's passing to/through the midfield when he is not part of the back three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 I actually think the team and shape we played vs the Czechs was far more suited to the England game. Without Tierney at RCB the 532 becomes incredibly defensive. Especially with O'Donnell playing ahead of a more attack minded wingback. O'Donnell has his defensive use, but there is really no point in playing him when we are playing 3 ultra defensive CBs like we did in the Czech game. I'd possibly play him v England, but no way would I play him against Croatia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfathagiz Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 marshall patterson hanley gallacher robertson forrest mginn gilmour fraser nisbett adams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Some teams on here are beyond comical. We would get ripped apart and destroyed so easily. Sadly, real life isn’t FIFA or ProEvo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Marshall Patterson. Hanley. Tierney Robertson. Gilmour. McTominay. Forrest. McGinn. Armstrong Adams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 7 hours ago, Parklife said: Bemused by the number of people who want Armstrong dropped. I thought he was our best midfielder by far on Monday. Id go with the team I wanted to play on Monday: Gordon Hendry Hanley Tierney Forrest. Robertson Mctominay McGregor Armstrong McGinn Adams It's not saying much but he was the best of the midfield by far and he can be a goal threat. McTominay didn't look as if he knew what his role was and McGinn does what he always does when he's struggling games and doesn't want to take responsibility and that's stick his fat arse in the air and try and win free kicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 A lot depends on whether Tierney is fit. If not then I'd play McTominay as the right sided centre back. Czechs knew that none of our centre backs were going to hurt them so could drop in and let the 3 of them pass it sideways before eventually launching it up to dykes. Also need two midfielders that can take the ball from the centre backs. Mcgregor gets a lot of stick on here but we looked a better side when he came on. Marshall Forrest Hanley Cooper Tierney Robertson McTominay Mcgregor Mcginn Fraser Adams If Tierney isn't fit then drop McTominay to centre back and bring in Gilmour in midfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Dodger said: Also need two midfielders that can take the ball from the centre backs. Mcgregor gets a lot of stick on here but we looked a better side when he came on. Some players looked a bit nervous in the first half, but we still played decent football. Then 2nd half, we changed it up all over the park and created even more chances. I'm not having a dig at McGregor, but I don't think he was the catalyst to improving in the 2nd half. In fact, I'm sure he gave away the ball a couple of times under very little pressure. We don't need 2 midfielders to take the ball from the defenders. 1 is plenty. And that player should be Gilmour. Edited June 16, 2021 by Tartan blood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blantyre_Braveheart Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) Clarke has being defending O'Donnell in the press and saying he did nothing wrong and trying to turn the argument into who he plays for rather than O'Donnell's ability. It's pretty much all but confirmed he will start on Friday. Edited June 16, 2021 by Blantyre_Braveheart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 James forrest at Rwb sounds like a recipe for disaster to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Blantyre_Braveheart said: Clarke has being defending O'Donnell in the press and saying he did nothing wrong and trying to turn the argument into who he plays for rather than O'Donnell's ability. It's pretty much all but confirmed he will start on Friday. It has to be Patterson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted June 16, 2021 Author Share Posted June 16, 2021 Marshall Hanley Cooper Tierney Fraser Robertson Gilmour McTominay McGinn Dykes Adams Screw the double-pivot. Put Gilmour in the anchor role, let him pull the strings and we have a chance. Plus two out and out strikers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 53 minutes ago, Taylor1996 said: Marshall Hanley Cooper Tierney Fraser Robertson Gilmour McTominay McGinn Dykes Adams Screw the double-pivot. Put Gilmour in the anchor role, let him pull the strings and we have a chance. Plus two out and out strikers. Probably a year or two too soon, could be in place for the next Euro's though. Mind you starting to prepare for Euro 2024 now might be an idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blantyre_Braveheart Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Probably a year or two too soon, could be in place for the next Euro's though. Mind you starting to prepare for Euro 2024 now might be an idea. If results go against in September, I'd just start preparing a team to qualify for EURO 24. Ditch some of the more limited or older squad players and bring in some of our younger players. One of the goalies,O'Donnell, Gallagher, Fleck, McLean (he'll probably be back post EURO's), Taylor, etc Replace them with Clark (he's atleast playing weekly and at a better level than Gordon) Rooney (Not perfect but his massive improvement should be rewarded) Gauld (should've been at the EURO's) Ferguson (he still has a bit to go but McLean/Fleck are mostly there to make up the numbers, why not give training time to a good young player, we did this with McGinn and are now being rewarded for it) Hickey/Doig (Taylor is literally there to make up the numbers, he is there so we can have 11 Vs. 11 in training as Tierney is CB in training. Why not give his training and squad time to 2 very promising young players, again we did this with Robertson and he came in straight away and made LB his). Go the Wales route. Have a solid core but have a lot of younger players on the fringes and outskirts of the squad). Edited June 16, 2021 by Blantyre_Braveheart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted June 16, 2021 Author Share Posted June 16, 2021 3 hours ago, ceudmilefailte said: Probably a year or two too soon, could be in place for the next Euro's though. Mind you starting to prepare for Euro 2024 now might be an idea. Yeah. Never hurts to plan ahead. Hopefully Gilmour starts in the next two matches. There's no reason why not, we all know that he's going to be our main man going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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