exile Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 The commentators are spoiled for choice. If they are not talking about England, they can always switch to talk about EPL players. One day will come when Scotland outlast England in a tournament, we can be sure it will be Chelsea this, Villa that, Liverpool, Champions League winners, etc etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 35 minutes ago, exile said: The commentators are spoiled for choice. If they are not talking about England, they can always switch to talk about EPL players. One day will come when Scotland outlast England in a tournament, we can be sure it will be Chelsea this, Villa that, Liverpool, Champions League winners, etc etc... And they've got the best refs in the world as well as the only VAR judges worth mentioning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 (edited) Not punditry, and not daft, but I see the BBC website enjoying a Swiss 'wonder goal' and hailing the Swiss' 'superb victory', leaving the Swiss with a 'superb' chance of qualifying. Thanks, guys. Edited June 20, 2021 by exile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 It presumably hasn't occurred to them that this result could be bad for anyone else finishing 3rd... (including, possibly, England 😵). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 "I want to talk about England..." says Gary Linkear, at half time, of Belgium-Finland / Denmark-Russia. They mentioned Billy Gilmour briefly but switch to discussing England. No self-awareness at all that they are broadcasting into Scotland and Wales - both still in the tournament, and Scotland's prospects in particular hanging on the results of these 2 matches. Not even a hint that England's own fate could be affected by tonight's results... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 The Guardian lot have said that England’s issue is that they have too many good players, so Gareth can’t pick a settled side, unlike France, Germany, Italy etc Wembley was too hot against Croatia as well. They really with stretch to absolutely any excuse that they can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaundy Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Quite enjoying the Partridge nature of some of the beeb and itv stuff. favourite read today was some anglosplaining that after the Scotland team had given so much effort to gain a point from England it’s a worry that they will manage another match. I hadn’t considered that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, exile said: "I want to talk about England..." says Gary Linkear, at half time, of Belgium-Finland / Denmark-Russia. They mentioned Billy Gilmour briefly but switch to discussing England. No self-awareness at all that they are broadcasting into Scotland and Wales - both still in the tournament, and Scotland's prospects in particular hanging on the results of these 2 matches. Not even a hint that England's own fate could be affected by tonight's results... And just now Gary Lineker says breaking news and tonight's results mean England guaranteed to qualify as at very least best third placed team. Not a mention of what it means to Scotland. What a thud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted June 21, 2021 Author Share Posted June 21, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: And just now Gary Lineker says breaking news and tonight's results mean England guaranteed to qualify as at very least best third placed team. Not a mention of what it means to Scotland. What a thud. Same on the bbc website so far. I know we still need to win but guaranteed they mention it if England were in our place. Edited June 21, 2021 by ParisInAKilt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: Same on the bbc website so far. I know we still need to win but guaranteed they mention it if England were in our place. No wonder they are known as the EBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVIDB46 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Andy Robinson is back according to Alex scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 22 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: And just now Gary Lineker says breaking news and tonight's results mean England guaranteed to qualify as at very least best third placed team. Not a mention of what it means to Scotland. What a thud. At least some one had noticed they hadn't actually qualified yet, heard some pundits today saying they should experiment or give some players a run out to get them up to match fitness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archiesdad Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Shaundy said: Quite enjoying the Partridge nature of some of the beeb and itv stuff. favourite read today was some anglosplaining that after the Scotland team had given so much effort to gain a point from England it’s a worry that they will manage another match. I hadn’t considered that. anglosplaining. 👍👍👍🤔😆 brilliant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaff Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 I've been watching on iplayer so wasn't sure if the commentary teams and studio banter was uk wide or i had an english feed. If this is a uk wide feed it is an absolute disgrace and no wonder so many in Scotland now don't pay the licence fee. Gilmour has covid. up pops two england players on the big screen I want to talk about england, Gary Linekar on the Belgium v Finland build up. This referee will be known to english football fans as Jonathon Pearce rhyme's off every single game he's been in charge involving epl clubs. I think Pearce has to be the worst commentator, he just constantly spouts shite and passes them off as stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkieRobRoy Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 There are three types of player in the Euros from a BBC perspective; 1 He plays in the Premiership 2 He used to play in the Premiership 3 He's the sort of player who could do well in the Premiership I never thought I'd say this, but credit to ITV who, even on UK-wide coverage, sometimes have Souness on the panel and the likes of Hartson and McCoist as 'expert' on commentary. McFadden is called in on the EBC coverage when they need someone to talk about the Jocks, like any other 'foreign' expert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RightPeg Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Rio Ferdinand last night said English full backs couldn't create chances as the Scottish full backs "didn't go forward" - aye alright then. Andy Robertson really famous for never getting into the opposition half and he must have missed O'Donnell's shot and numerous crosses. Not to mention one, and sometimes two, of our centre backs were striding out with the ball regularly. Surely they should be praising the teams fluidity rather than making it sound like we sat in with 5 at the back for 90mins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 37 minutes ago, RightPeg said: Rio Ferdinand last night said English full backs couldn't create chances as the Scottish full backs "didn't go forward" - aye alright then. Andy Robertson really famous for never getting into the opposition half and he must have missed O'Donnell's shot and numerous crosses. Not to mention one, and sometimes two, of our centre backs were striding out with the ball regularly. Surely they should be praising the teams fluidity rather than making it sound like we sat in with 5 at the back for 90mins. Its funny, immediately after the game its like they were shell shocked and had no alternative but to say the truth and that Scotland were the better team and bossed England. Once they compose themselves they revert to type, feeling the need to pick holes in Scotland’s set up rather than state the bleedin obvious and that England just aren’t anywhere near the level their rose tinted glasses suggest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 54 minutes ago, RightPeg said: Rio Ferdinand last night said English full backs couldn't create chances as the Scottish full backs "didn't go forward" - aye alright then. Andy Robertson really famous for never getting into the opposition half and he must have missed O'Donnell's shot and numerous crosses. Not to mention one, and sometimes two, of our centre backs were striding out with the ball regularly. Surely they should be praising the teams fluidity rather than making it sound like we sat in with 5 at the back for 90mins. Rio ferdinand is a fucking idiot. He should be nowhere near a panel of pundits. He's the English Kris boyd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkieRobRoy Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Shearer described the game as 'scrappy' which it probably was from an England perspective and that's the only one that matters to the BBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 39 minutes ago, TDYER63 said: Its funny, immediately after the game its like they were shell shocked and had no alternative but to say the truth and that Scotland were the better team and bossed England. Once they compose themselves they revert to type, feeling the need to pick holes in Scotland’s set up rather than state the bleedin obvious and that England just aren’t anywhere near the level their rose tinted glasses suggest. Well I think. from what I saw on YouTube of the English coverage of the game it was more that they were trying to explain it away as Scottish guts and Jack Shit else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: Well I think. from what I saw on YouTube of the English coverage of the game it was more that they were trying to explain it away as Scottish guts and Jack Shit else. Tbh I thought they were pretty positive about Scotland, though I did watch the highlights half pished when we got home from the pub . Then watched the ENTIRE game again immediately afterwards. My husband said ‘ I could watch this all night’ . I said ‘ WE HAVE been watching it all night , its now 2 am ‘ 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 4 hours ago, chaff said: I've been watching on iplayer so wasn't sure if the commentary teams and studio banter was uk wide or i had an english feed. If this is a uk wide feed it is an absolute disgrace and no wonder so many in Scotland now don't pay the licence fee. Gilmour has covid. up pops two england players on the big screen I want to talk about england, Gary Linekar on the Belgium v Finland build up. This referee will be known to english football fans as Jonathon Pearce rhyme's off every single game he's been in charge involving epl clubs. I think Pearce has to be the worst commentator, he just constantly spouts shite and passes them off as stats It really does feel like watching coverage from another country. ITV are slightly better, but not by much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 17 minutes ago, scotlad said: It really does feel like watching coverage from another country. ITV are slightly better, but not by much. That’s because it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Texas Pete said: That’s because it is. True; the problem is we're still expected to pay for the "privilege" of watching it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 minute ago, scotlad said: True; the problem is we're still expected to pay for the "privilege" of watching it. They should be forced to present the coverage from a British point of view but they’re not. Alternatively, BBC Scotland should be given the required budget to present and commentate on games but they’re not. Luckily I haven’t had to suffer much of it as I have been lucky enough to have been to both of our games and I have a ticket for tonight’s game but I have still seen enough to make me sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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